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Subject: How long could Hitler's Germany have lasted..

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Posted by: Make117
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Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

This is the question that makes me scratch my head. So many of you seem to,think he's some hero that would have taken over the world had we not ganged up on him. I wonder how many skinheads post here.
Also, this x1000. You people have real issues if you see Hitler as a great leader.
This. As has already been stated, without going to war, Germany would've fallen into recession again. Most of the jobs he provided for German citizens were temporary labour jobs e.g. constructing the autobahns.

When these jobs saw their natural end, Hitler had to go to war to avoid economic collapse. In fact Germany went to war sooner that Hitler had hoped because of this very reason. Hitler was charismatic, and good at speeches, but that's all he had going for him. There was no way that Germany was going to prosper under his rule.

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Hitler was badly ill. He would have died a few years after the war. It wouldnt last long.

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correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the only reasons Germany became a superpower because they were making war preparations?

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I think it's set in the 60's. Realistically, though, it might not have lasted as long as you think. Opposiotion was increasing, with things like the White Rose movement, the Eidelweiss Pirates and Operation Valkyrie. More and more would arise and the NSDAP would lose power. Church leaders were among those who publically spoke out against them, such as Niemöller.

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Posted by: komark
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the only reasons Germany became a superpower because they were making war preparations?
Pretty much. Germany was on the war path since day one the NSDAP got in power. One by one, left right and centre, the terms of the Treaty of Versailles were being eroded by Hitler.

In desperate times, people will turn to desperate solutions. It happened during the revolutions in Russia in 1917. It happened in China, with the Nationalists and the Communists in the Civil War.

And it's happening right now in Greece. Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present to you: The Golden Dawn.

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Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

Because they're racist and ignorant thinking the Germans were prospering under Hitler.

He ruined Germany. No "ifs" no "buts".

Despite the fact that Hitler is seen as a bogeyman, he actually intended well for Germany. He was not a good man but a lot better than Stalin

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Posted by: werdnaz

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

Because they're racist and ignorant thinking the Germans were prospering under Hitler.

He ruined Germany. No "ifs" no "buts".

Despite the fact that Hitler is seen as a bogeyman, he actually intended well for Germany. He was not a good man but a lot better than Stalin

He geniunely believed he was doing the right thing for Germany.

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Posted by: HyperWiz
Probably would have last quite awhile despite its poor economy, just think of it as the German version of the Great Depression.

It would have last long enough to become a super power that rivals America.
Really?

America only became a super power because of the war not before it, it was Britain and other allies buying American products to help fight the war that made America an economic powerhouse.

Hitler always wanted a war so he would not have stopped at Poland, WW2 was inevitable.

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Posted by: NSCLord

Posted by: werdnaz

Posted by: challengerX

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

Because they're racist and ignorant thinking the Germans were prospering under Hitler.

He ruined Germany. No "ifs" no "buts".

Despite the fact that Hitler is seen as a bogeyman, he actually intended well for Germany. He was not a good man but a lot better than Stalin

He geniunely believed he was doing the right thing for Germany.
Which is sad considering what happened, Germany's future as a country could be the death of the country.

Because of the holocaust no immigrants want to go there and instead settle with France and the UK, also Germans leave Germany to.

It's predicted by 2050 France and the UK will have around 80 million people each while Germany falls to 50-60 million.

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There would have been a third power during the Cold War, that's for sure.

The Cold war wasn't just the Soviet Union and the USA. The Uk and France were definately involved too, and I'm sure there were others.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

Because they're racist and ignorant thinking the Germans were prospering under Hitler.

He ruined Germany. No "ifs" no "buts".

Despite the fact that Hitler is seen as a bogeyman, he actually intended well for Germany. He was not a good man but a lot better than Stalin

He geniunely believed he was doing the right thing for Germany.
Which is sad considering what happened, Germany's future as a country could be the death of the country.

Because of the holocaust no immigrants want to go there and instead settle with France and the UK, also Germans leave Germany to.

It's predicted by 2050 France and the UK will have around 80 million people each while Germany falls to 50-60 million.
you have to agree, if he had not done evil things, he was one of the best politicians to walk the earth. I don't think I've ever seen something like one of Hitlers Rallies (I don't agree with his motives, but my point still stands)

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

This is the question that makes me scratch my head. So many of you seem to,think he's some hero that would have taken over the world had we not ganged up on him. I wonder how many skinheads post here.


I don't think that you'll find one person here who agrees with Hitlers motives, or thinks that the holocaust was the right thing to do. they simply see that Hitler was a great politcal leader, and if he hadn't done those evil things, could be up there with the other great leaders, I also hate that the demonisation of hitler, has led to people thinking that Stalin was a good guy. Hitler killed 6 million jews, Stalin killed 20 million of his own people so they would fear him, and because he was paranoid that someone would steal power from him.

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Posted by: Make117

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

This is the question that makes me scratch my head. So many of you seem to,think he's some hero that would have taken over the world had we not ganged up on him. I wonder how many skinheads post here.
Also, this x1000. You people have real issues if you see Hitler as a great leader.

If it wasn't for Hitler, Communist Russia may have conquered Europe.

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The thing though is that Russia was building up this massive army. Even if Germany didn't start the war there is a good chance Russia would have. Anyway it might have lasted until the late 50s. Like you said the economy would collapsed with no war to fight. At the end of WW2 Germany still had the best economy in Europe. Which was because of the war.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

This is the question that makes me scratch my head. So many of you seem to,think he's some hero that would have taken over the world had we not ganged up on him. I wonder how many skinheads post here.
Also, this x1000. You people have real issues if you see Hitler as a great leader.

If it wasn't for Hitler, Communist Russia may have conquered Europe.

Which it did. At the end of WW2 Europe went from a [Nazi] dictatorship to a Communist one. So really the only winner of WW2 was Russia because of that.

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Posted by: Make117

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

This is the question that makes me scratch my head. So many of you seem to,think he's some hero that would have taken over the world had we not ganged up on him. I wonder how many skinheads post here.
Also, this x1000. You people have real issues if you see Hitler as a great leader.

If it wasn't for Hitler, Communist Russia may have conquered Europe.

Which it did. At the end of WW2 Europe went from a [Nazi] dictatorship to a Communist one. So really the only winner of WW2 was Russia because of that.

It was only a matter of time Russia invaded other countries. Luckily not all of Europe turned into Communist dictatorship which may well have happened if Hitler hadn't attacked Russia so fast.

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Posted by: challengerX

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

Because they're racist and ignorant thinking the Germans were prospering under Hitler.

He ruined Germany. No "ifs" no "buts".

Despite the fact that Hitler is seen as a bogeyman, he actually intended well for Germany. He was not a good man but a lot better than Stalin

He geniunely believed he was doing the right thing for Germany.
99% of the evil people in the world do not believe themselves to be evil. That 1% are cartoon characters and never taken seriously enough to get any power to exercise over others.

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Probably would have last quite awhile despite its poor economy, just think of it as the German version of the Great Depression.

It would have last long enough to become a super power that rivals America.
Really?

America only became a super power because of the war not before it, it was Britain and other allies buying American products to help fight the war that made America an economic powerhouse.

Hitler always wanted a war so he would not have stopped at Poland, WW2 was inevitable.

Also, us Brits had to pay for Lend Lease in the end.
If Hitler wasn't around, Japan would still kickstart the war, as it attacked land belonging to Britain, France and America.

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Probably would have last quite awhile despite its poor economy, just think of it as the German version of the Great Depression.

It would have last long enough to become a super power that rivals America.
They got over that. During the depression, about a quarter of the population in the US was unemployed. In Germany? About half. If you thought the inflation in the US was bad, Germany went through the worst hyperinflation the world has ever known. Many burned their money and just traded valuables for other things. They even used ciggarettes since they had more value than millions of marks.

Hitler turned the worst economy ever, to one of the top superpowers. Although I see what you are trying to get at. I feel Hitler will continue to attempt to solve the problem by continuing to build up his forces.

He passed laws that encouraged marriage, and for the families to have multiple children. They were already getting indoctrinated into the Hitler youth program, so his people were basically being trained from the start! After the wife had 3-4 children, he wanted the husband to go out and mate with another female for more children under the Reich.

Hitler's Germany isn't anything we have today.

Just wanting to make sure you aren't mistaking 1922's Hyperinflation with the Great Depression that occured. Hitler wasn't on the political stage at the time of Hyperinflation, but he was during the great depression. Also it was Stresseman who caused the country to recover from hyperinflation.

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If they hadn't attacked the Soviets who knows..

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Probably until hitler died. It would have been a world superpower until then. Hitler was a very, very smart man.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

Because they're racist and ignorant thinking the Germans were prospering under Hitler.

He ruined Germany. No "ifs" no "buts".

Despite the fact that Hitler is seen as a bogeyman, he actually intended well for Germany. He was not a good man but a lot better than Stalin

He geniunely believed he was doing the right thing for Germany.
Which is sad considering what happened, Germany's future as a country could be the death of the country.

Because of the holocaust no immigrants want to go there and instead settle with France and the UK, also Germans leave Germany to.

It's predicted by 2050 France and the UK will have around 80 million people each while Germany falls to 50-60 million.

Germany is currently undergoing a natural decrease in population. See this demographic transition model.

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Posted by: HyperWiz
Probably would have last quite awhile despite its poor economy, just think of it as the German version of the Great Depression.

It would have last long enough to become a super power that rivals America.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Why do some of you worship Hitler so much?

This is the question that makes me scratch my head. So many of you seem to,think he's some hero that would have taken over the world had we not ganged up on him. I wonder how many skinheads post here.
Also, this x1000. You people have real issues if you see Hitler as a great leader.

If it wasn't for Hitler, Communist Russia may have conquered Europe.
Not under Stalin they wouldn't have. His policies were completely destroying the Soviet Union from the inside out. Had the war not happened and Stalin not loosened his policies during the war, the Soviet Union would have destroyed itself.

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