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Subject: Does everyone deserve respect, no matter what?

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.

I personally think people deserve to be respected for things they can't change about themselves - gender, orientation, skin colour, whatever. I also think people deserve respect for deeply personal choices that don't affect other people negatively - the choice to hold a particular philosophy, for example.

But I don't think people deserve to have all their views respected if those views are harmful or damaging to other people. For example, someone who thinks [insert group here] is inferior and mistreats them because of it shouldn't be respected for that. Or at least, that's how I see it.

But what do you think?

  • 12.24.2012 12:33 PM PDT

Nope.

  • 12.24.2012 12:34 PM PDT

"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
-Paarthurnax

"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world."
-G-Man

I agree with everything you said.

  • 12.24.2012 12:34 PM PDT

No. Not everyone

EDIT: Didn't read post at first. People don't deserve respect when they aren't good people. Example: You kill an innocent person, you're in jail. Guards don't need to respect you.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:38 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:34 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Respect is something you earn in my opinion. I won't be a dick to somebody, but that is far from respecting them.

  • 12.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT

Nahman Jayden, Eff bee eye. I herd that you're the origammy killah...

I agree with your stance on the matter, Jay.

  • 12.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT

I share your opinion in this case.

  • 12.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT

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Nope. Everyone has to earn respect, I'm not going to respect some stranger, am I? They have to do something to earn that respect.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:37 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT

They deserve respect until they demonstrate that they no longer deserve it.

  • 12.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT

No. Anyone who respects me is an idiot.

  • 12.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

I am of the opinion that respect is earned, not bestowed.

Common courtesy should be extended to all and maintained for as long as possible, though it is possible that even courtesy can be abused and lost.

But respect? I place a high value on those who I respect. If I were to offer/give it to everyone simply because they have a pulse, that would devalue the respect that I have for those who have clearly earned it.

  • 12.24.2012 12:36 PM PDT

I think the polar opposite. I don't think that anyone deserves respect I don't think that I deserve respect I don't think anyone deserves respect. Respect is stupid. Everyone was created equal therefore why should we respect people when everyone is the same? It makes no sense. I don't think that respect should be a thing. We shouldn't respect anyone or ourselves; not even Barack Obama.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:37 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:36 PM PDT

Agree completely.

EDIT: Thought a bit more on the subject, and I actually have something to say about it. While I don't disrespect people based on things they can't help, I don't necessarily respect them either, seeing as being born a certain way is not "worthy" of being respected. Respect is earned, so I don't think everyone deserves respect, per say, but rather than everyone should be treated respectfully unless their actions prove otherwise.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:43 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am of the opinion that respect is earned, not bestowed.

Common courtesy should be extended to all and maintained for as long as possible, though it is possible that even courtesy can be abused and lost.

But respect? I place a high value on those who I respect. If I were to offer/give it to everyone simply because they have a pulse, that would devalue the respect that I have for those who have clearly earned it.
This sums up my feelings on the matter quite nicely.

Also, this implies that respect is closely related to love.

  • 12.24.2012 12:38 PM PDT
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Yup.

Why should someone get respect for their skin colour, gender etc?
It's not worthy of respect. A belief that certain races or peoples are inferior and have no place among us is a philosophy.

  • 12.24.2012 12:38 PM PDT

There's a “U” and “I” in union but just an “I” in my beliefs

Some people.

  • 12.24.2012 12:40 PM PDT
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Sometimes, I dream about cheese.

all woman deserve respect

for men t depends on their aesthetics, personality and job

  • 12.24.2012 12:40 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: rat lord09
Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am of the opinion that respect is earned, not bestowed.

Common courtesy should be extended to all and maintained for as long as possible, though it is possible that even courtesy can be abused and lost.

But respect? I place a high value on those who I respect. If I were to offer/give it to everyone simply because they have a pulse, that would devalue the respect that I have for those who have clearly earned it.
This sums up my feelings on the matter quite nicely.

Also, this implies that respect is closely related to love.

And perhaps trust even.

All are (at least to me) very rare and special values that I will associate with an individual. They are unique (love, trust, respect) and are neither mutually inclusive or exclusive. I can say that I am capable of respecting someone without trusting or loving them. But if I love someone, I almost certainly trust and respect them.

  • 12.24.2012 12:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am of the opinion that respect is earned, not bestowed.

Common courtesy should be extended to all and maintained for as long as possible, though it is possible that even courtesy can be abused and lost.

But respect? I place a high value on those who I respect. If I were to offer/give it to everyone simply because they have a pulse, that would devalue the respect that I have for those who have clearly earned it.
Hmmm. I think we're coming at this from different directions.

My mother is a practicing Muslim and chooses to wear the hijab when she's out and about her daily business. Most of the time, this isn't a problem. But sometimes, she gets very vile things yelled at her because of this visual representation of her faith.

Now, do you have to convert to Islam to make my mother happy? Of course not. But doesn't she deserve that baseline level of respect wherein people don't yell racial slurs at her because she feels more comfortable in public when her hair is covered?

That's what I mean about respect - treating people with decency and humanity out of a recognition of the things about them that they can't change, or that are profoundly important to them but otherwise harmless to others.

  • 12.24.2012 12:40 PM PDT

cars, girls & cake all day everyday

Hah! He's making me feel bad from when I tried to give him a hug at PAX and he shrugged me off. >:[
Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am of the opinion that respect is earned, not bestowed.

Common courtesy should be extended to all and maintained for as long as possible, though it is possible that even courtesy can be abused and lost.

But respect? I place a high value on those who I respect. If I were to offer/give it to everyone simply because they have a pulse, that would devalue the respect that I have for those who have clearly earned it.

  • 12.24.2012 12:40 PM PDT

cars, girls & cake all day everyday

This "baseline" level of respect is closer to common courtesy and tolerance than anything (IMO)
Posted by: jaythenerdkid
Now, do you have to convert to Islam to make my mother happy? Of course not. But doesn't she deserve that baseline level of respect wherein people don't yell racial slurs at her because she feels more comfortable in public when her hair is covered?

That's what I mean about respect - treating people with decency and humanity out of a recognition of the things about them that they can't change, or that are profoundly important to them but otherwise harmless to others.


[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:46 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:44 PM PDT
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Don't do anything you wouldn't want to have to explain to paramedics. Trust me, I'm a pilot.

I don't think respect should be freely given to everyone, but I believe that one should treat others in a respectful and courteous manner.

  • 12.24.2012 12:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Simba Too Cold
Nope.

  • 12.24.2012 12:48 PM PDT
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Respect is earned.

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