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Subject: So many plot holes in the Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
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Gandalf is a wizard from World of Warcraft. He has special abilities that can only be used after cooldowns that are never specified. He can hit the ground with his staff and inflict incredible aoe damage to 1000 goblins around himbut doesn't seem to be able to do it afterwards. He can summon eagles when he is in danger...but only sometimes and not others. Is there an explanation for this? Or do we have to understand that Tolkien's intended plot twist was for future generations to discover that the world of Middle Earth was actually a video game?

Bilbo Baggins is a scared little Hobbit who is afraid to leave the Shire to go on an adventure. Fast forward two days of walking around in a forest and Bilbo encounters the first monsters he ever saw in his life: 3 giant trolls. Most warriors would be scared to go challenge them alone but Bilbo, being the little afraid hobbit that he was portrayed to be so far, is completely nonchalant about sneaking-up behind a 2-ton killing machine to try to pickpocket his giant knife that weighs half of his weight. How is that supposed to work? The whole concept of pickpocketing someone is that it needs to be something small barely attached to a layer of clothing that is not in direct contact with your skin. But Bilbo, in his first encounter with monsters in his life, is trying the Houdiniest pickpocket trick of all time by removing a 1 meter knife from a giant murdering creature's ass crack with the added thrill factor of having two other trolls facing him directly. When did he develop these two balls to rule them all?

Since the eagles are the best air taxis in town, and they are taxis since they have to be called upon first, why did Gandalf not ask them for a ride at the beginning of the movie? And why did he not ask them to drop them at the lonely mountain to make it impossible for Peter Jackson to milk a 300 page book into a trilogy? (Don't say it is explained in the books you knowledgeable nerds; a movie has to be self-reliant)



POST YOUR OWN HOBBIT PLOT HOLES!

[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:57 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 2:15 PM PDT

Read the books before spamming plot holes!!!!!!

  • 12.24.2012 2:16 PM PDT
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Your friends must love it when you go to the movies with them.

  • 12.24.2012 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Player3Th0mas1
Read the books before spamming plot holes!!!!!!


Oh I didn't realize you had to read the books to understand movies. Amazing logic kid.

  • 12.24.2012 2:17 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Player3Th0mas1
Read the books before spamming plot holes!!!!!!
The books and the movie are two separate things. If an adaptation can't stand on its own then it fails, in any medium.

  • 12.24.2012 2:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Mr Reaganomics
Oh hey, there is Erebor off in the distance! Instead of taking you there, let us drop you all off on this massive vertical rock that will be extremely difficult for you to get off of.
lmao this.

  • 12.24.2012 2:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mr Reaganomics
Oh hey, there is Erebor off in the distance! Instead of taking you there, let us drop you all off on this massive vertical rock that will be extremely difficult for you to get off of.
Unless I'm mistaken, there are stairs that Beorn carved in it.

  • 12.24.2012 2:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: Player3Th0mas1
Read the books before spamming plot holes!!!!!!


Oh I didn't realize you had to read the books to understand movies. Amazing logic kid.
"Kid"

lol

  • 12.24.2012 2:20 PM PDT

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Bilbo isn't really afraid of adventure - he's clearly quite brave, which is why Gandalf recruited him. It's just that hobbits in general frown upon adventures and stuff because it's not "respectable".

The pickpocketing part isn't really a plot hole either. Being a respectable hobbit, Bilbo obviously wouldn't know the best way to steal.

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Posted by: Forever MS
Gandalf is a wizard from World of Warcraft. He has special abilities that can only be used after cooldowns that are never specified. He can hit the ground with his staff and inflict incredible aoe damage to 1000 goblins around himbut doesn't seem to be able to do it afterwards. He can summon eagles when he is in danger...but only sometimes and not others. Is there an explanation for this? Or do we have to understand that Tolkien's intended plot twist was for future generations to discover that the world of Middle Earth was actually a video game?

Please. Gandalf has impressive power, but even he has his limits. And the Eagles only assist him when it's convenient or if helping him will turn the tide of a war.


Posted by: Forever MS
Bilbo Baggins is a scared little Hobbit who is afraid to leave the Shire to go on an adventure. Fast forward two days of walking around in a forest and Bilbo encounters the first monsters he ever saw in his life: 3 giant trolls. Most warriors would be scared to go challenge them alone but Bilbo, being the little afraid hobbit that he was portrayed to be so far, is completely nonchalant about sneaking-up behind a 2-ton killing machine to try to pickpocket his giant knife that weighs half of his weight. How is that supposed to work? The whole concept of pickpocketing someone is that it needs to be something small barely attached to a layer of clothing that is not in direct contact with your skin. But Bilbo, in his first encounter with monsters in his life, is trying the Houdiniest pickpocket trick of all time by removing a 1 meter knife from a giant murdering creature's ass crack with the added thrill factor of having two other trolls facing him directly. When did he develop these two balls to rule them all?

"Hobbits can pass unseen by most, if they choose."
Plus, wild trolls have the intelligence of a rock (no pun intended). Not really a threat if you can outsmart them.

Posted by: Forever MS
Since the eagles are the best air taxis in town, and they are taxis since they have to be called upon first, why did Gandalf not ask them for a ride at the beginning of the movie? And why did he not ask them to drop them at the lonely mountain to make it impossible for Peter Jackson to milk a 300 page book into a trilogy? (Don't say it is explained in the books you knowledgeable nerds; a movie has to be self-reliant)

THEY. ARE. NOT. FRIGGING. TAXIS.
Erebor is 300 miles away from their eyrie, not worth dropping off a few dwarves who will most likely die at the end anyways (or so they think).

Please, learn some stuff about a topic before you troll about it.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:22 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 2:21 PM PDT

It's a movie. Stop worrying about this, and enjoy it.

  • 12.24.2012 2:21 PM PDT

1: There is only one book, so bookS is incorrect
2. Gandalf only uses his magic once in a while, because the story needs to be exiting, and not Gandalf spamming flames.
3. He didn't CALL the eagles, they happened to be around, and they saw a burning forest and screaming goblins
4. The dwarfs were captured FIRST and after that, bilbo needed to rescue them.
5. The eagles are no taxis, they fight for their own, and helped a friend.
6. They couldn't bring them further because they are no taxis, and because the farmers would think they were going to steal their animals, and they would shoot them.
7. Read the books
8. Idiotic OP is idiotic

  • 12.24.2012 2:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS
Houdiniest


OT: shut up and go read the book.

  • 12.24.2012 2:23 PM PDT

i was so high when i watched it.

  • 12.24.2012 2:24 PM PDT


Posted by: Mr Reaganomics
Oh hey, there is Erebor off in the distance! Instead of taking you there, let us drop you all off on this massive vertical rock that will be extremely difficult for you to get off of.


Right when they put them on the rock I was curious to how they would get off of it, however I looked a little harder, there are some carved stairs on the side.

  • 12.24.2012 2:24 PM PDT

Unsuccessfully trying to bring science and reason to The Flood...

This is just moronic.

If they actually did the things you guys are suggesting in the movie then you would be on here saying the movie was too short, and that it sucks.

There are plotholes in practically everything, because it is all fiction. If these small little things really bother you, then I feel sorry for you, frankly.

  • 12.24.2012 2:24 PM PDT

Call me Stu

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[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:25 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 2:25 PM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."

The Eagles can't fly them there because Smaug will kill them. Same reason they can't be flown in to Mordor. I agree that Gandalf's powers aren't exactly well-defined in the movie, though.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:26 PM PST]

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Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: Player3Th0mas1
Read the books before spamming plot holes!!!!!!


Oh I didn't realize you had to read the books to understand movies. Amazing logic kid.


No I just read the book (without the "s") before knowing there would be a movie.
OP, if you are too stupid or dumb to read the book, and you cant even understand the movie, you should seek for some help.

  • 12.24.2012 2:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: lVl e r c u r y
Posted by: Forever MS
Houdiniest


OT: shut up and go read the book.


mfw people are so unintelligent that they think that it should be a requirement to read the books to understand a movie.

  • 12.24.2012 2:27 PM PDT


Posted by: lVl e r c u r y
Posted by: Forever MS
Houdiniest


OT: shut up and go read the book.


Yes, shut up and listen to this guy.

  • 12.24.2012 2:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: mav1972kit
It's a movie. Stop worrying about this, and enjoy it.

  • 12.24.2012 2:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: lVl e r c u r y
Posted by: Forever MS
Houdiniest


OT: shut up and go read the book.


mfw people are so unintelligent that they think that it should be a requirement to read the books to understand a movie.


mfw people are so unintelligent that they cant read a book or understand a simple movie.

  • 12.24.2012 2:29 PM PDT

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