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If it's so simple OP then why don't you film your own version and see how many people watch it?

  • 12.24.2012 2:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: SonOfTheShire
Bilbo isn't really afraid of adventure - he's clearly quite brave, which is why Gandalf recruited him. It's just that hobbits in general frown upon adventures and stuff because it's not "respectable".

The pickpocketing part isn't really a plot hole either. Being a respectable hobbit, Bilbo obviously wouldn't know the best way to steal.


Thank you for being one of the only people in this thread to actually address my points rather than insult me.

It's amusing how so many people get personally offended because I just posted some holes I found in a movie.

  • 12.24.2012 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Set Sail Armada
Why didn't Frodo just stick the ring up his ass?

Because Sam would keep turning invisible.

Posted by: Vinny White
Sex with highschool jailbait
and stamp collecting

The Hobbit is a book, not a movie.

  • 12.24.2012 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS
Gandalf is a wizard from World of Warcraft. He has special abilities that can only be used after cooldowns that are never specified. He can hit the ground with his staff and inflict incredible aoe damage to 1000 goblins around himbut doesn't seem to be able to do it afterwards. He can summon eagles when he is in danger...but only sometimes and not others. Is there an explanation for this? Or do we have to understand that Tolkien's intended plot twist was for future generations to discover that the world of Middle Earth was actually a video game?

Bilbo Baggins is a scared little Hobbit who is afraid to leave the Shire to go on an adventure. Fast forward two days of walking around in a forest and Bilbo encounters the first monsters he ever saw in his life: 3 giant trolls. Most warriors would be scared to go challenge them alone but Bilbo, being the little afraid hobbit that he was portrayed to be so far, is completely nonchalant about sneaking-up behind a 2-ton killing machine to try to pickpocket his giant knife that weighs half of his weight. How is that supposed to work? The whole concept of pickpocketing someone is that it needs to be something small barely attached to a layer of clothing that is not in direct contact with your skin. But Bilbo, in his first encounter with monsters in his life, is trying the Houdiniest pickpocket trick of all time by removing a 1 meter knife from a giant murdering creature's ass crack with the added thrill factor of having two other trolls facing him directly. When did he develop these two balls to rule them all?

Since the eagles are the best air taxis in town, and they are taxis since they have to be called upon first, why did Gandalf not ask them for a ride at the beginning of the movie? And why did he not ask them to drop them at the lonely mountain to make it impossible for Peter Jackson to milk a 300 page book into a trilogy? (Don't say it is explained in the books you knowledgeable nerds; a movie has to be self-reliant)

1. Read the book

2. Question Tolkein again and I cannot guarantee your safety on this planet.

  • 12.24.2012 2:32 PM PDT
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I am dying of laughter from all you dummies who think reading a book is a requirement to understand the movie.

Stay intelligent Flood.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:32 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 2:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS
I am dying of laughter from all you dummies who think reading a book is a requirement to understand the movie.

Stay intelligent Flood.


And I'm literally amazed how you seem to deem not reading a book a sign of intelligence.

If you are not intelligent enough to spot plot holes and move past them realising that it would make for a boring story without them, then I would advise you refrain from spouting your nonsense.

  • 12.24.2012 2:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS
I am dying of laughter from all you dummies who think reading a book is a requirement to understand the movie.

Stay intelligent Flood.

ur mum staid intelligent in bed last nite

  • 12.24.2012 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Forever MS
I am dying of laughter from all you dummies who think reading a book is a requirement to understand the movie.

Stay intelligent Flood.


And I'm literally amazed how you seem to deem not reading a book a sign of intelligence.

If you are not intelligent enough to spot plot holes and move past them realising that it would make for a boring story without them, then I would advise you refrain from spouting your nonsense.


Did all of you somehow miss one of the only actual intelligent posts in this thread?

"The books and the movie are two separate things. If an adaptation can't stand on its own then it fails, in any medium."

  • 12.24.2012 2:38 PM PDT
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People are actually taking this seriously?

You wonder why there are so many trolls around here. You guys are too easy.

  • 12.24.2012 2:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: brandorobot
People are actually taking this seriously?

You wonder why there are so many trolls around here. You guys are too easy.


Amazing how nobody knows what the word "troll" means anymore...

  • 12.24.2012 2:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Forever MS
I am dying of laughter from all you dummies who think reading a book is a requirement to understand the movie.

Stay intelligent Flood.


And I'm literally amazed how you seem to deem not reading a book a sign of intelligence.

If you are not intelligent enough to spot plot holes and move past them realising that it would make for a boring story without them, then I would advise you refrain from spouting your nonsense.


Did all of you somehow miss one of the only actual intelligent posts in this thread?

"The books and the movie are two separate things. If an adaptation can't stand on its own then it fails, in any medium."

That Implies that if an adaption of a book is bad, then the book must be bad, therefore that is not an inteligent post.

  • 12.24.2012 2:45 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: elsnben
That Implies that if an adaption of a book is bad, then the book must be bad, therefore that is not an inteligent post.
No it doesn't.

  • 12.24.2012 2:47 PM PDT

So those are the most "unrealistic" things you find about middle earth?

What about giant fighting mountains or talking trees?

  • 12.24.2012 2:49 PM PDT

"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle- victorious"

Why can't people like you understand that the Eagles have their own -blam!- to do. The eagles actually have a king as well. The king eagle decides whether or not they should aid a cause. Also, the only reason why the eagles helped Gandalf was because both Gandalf and the eagles are Maiar.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:51 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 2:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: Player3Th0mas1
Read the books before spamming plot holes!!!!!!


Oh I didn't realize you had to read the books to understand movies. Amazing logic kid.
If you haven't read the books you probably need to rethink your life entirely.

  • 12.24.2012 2:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: M4L1K jr
Why can't people like you understand that the Eagles have their own -blam!- to do. The eagles actually have a king as well. The king eagle decides whether or not they should aid a cause. Also, the only reason why the eagles helped Gandalf was because both Gandalf and the eagles are Maiar.


Tell me when this was explained in the movie?

If you noticed, the title of this thread is "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" plot holes. I am talking about the movie plot holes.

  • 12.24.2012 2:54 PM PDT


Posted by: Forever MS
Gandalf is a wizard from World of Warcraft. He has special abilities that can only be used after cooldowns that are never specified. He can hit the ground with his staff and inflict incredible aoe damage to 1000 goblins around himbut doesn't seem to be able to do it afterwards. He can summon eagles when he is in danger...but only sometimes and not others. Is there an explanation for this? Or do we have to understand that Tolkien's intended plot twist was for future generations to discover that the world of Middle Earth was actually a video game?

Bilbo Baggins is a scared little Hobbit who is afraid to leave the Shire to go on an adventure. Fast forward two days of walking around in a forest and Bilbo encounters the first monsters he ever saw in his life: 3 giant trolls. Most warriors would be scared to go challenge them alone but Bilbo, being the little afraid hobbit that he was portrayed to be so far, is completely nonchalant about sneaking-up behind a 2-ton killing machine to try to pickpocket his giant knife that weighs half of his weight. How is that supposed to work? The whole concept of pickpocketing someone is that it needs to be something small barely attached to a layer of clothing that is not in direct contact with your skin. But Bilbo, in his first encounter with monsters in his life, is trying the Houdiniest pickpocket trick of all time by removing a 1 meter knife from a giant murdering creature's ass crack with the added thrill factor of having two other trolls facing him directly. When did he develop these two balls to rule them all?

Since the eagles are the best air taxis in town, and they are taxis since they have to be called upon first, why did Gandalf not ask them for a ride at the beginning of the movie? And why did he not ask them to drop them at the lonely mountain to make it impossible for Peter Jackson to milk a 300 page book into a trilogy? (Don't say it is explained in the books you knowledgeable nerds; a movie has to be self-reliant)


Mkay, as for Gandalf, in the book, the magic he used against the goblins he had to prepare. He secretly followed the goblins after they captured the dwarves (although in the book he was actually with them at that time and managed to just get away in time with a crack of magic that killed a few goblins) and then he hid himself where the great goblin was and he prepared the magic he was going to use to attack the goblins and turn out all of the torches to disorient the rest. He doesn't have recharge times, his magic just isn't that effective against groups unless he's able to prepare it.

In the books, Bilbo has his two sides. His Baggins side which is very respectable and calm and never does anything unexpected, and his Took side which is the side that got him on this adventure. So I guess his Took side is what got him to try and rescue the ponies.

As for the Eagles, well in the book he didn't summon them, they kinda just ran into eachother. The Eagles live on the top of the Misty Mountains and they hate goblins and other evil creatures. They saw the goblins and wargs that had surrounded the group in those trees (although in the book the Pale Orc hasn't even come up yet...its just the goblins from the mountain and the evil but intelligent wolf race called wargs). They came and grabbed the group and rescued them. Also, the eagles are an intelligent and noble race that know and are friendly to Gandalf, but aren't servants for him...he can call them but that doesn't mean they'll come.

  • 12.24.2012 2:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Technoxious


While I commend you for not insulting me like everyone else unfortunately your explanations don't really help at all, as none of that was stated in the movies.

  • 12.24.2012 2:57 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Technoxious
Mkay, as for Gandalf, in the book,

In the books,

As for the Eagles, well in the book


Hoo boy...

  • 12.24.2012 2:57 PM PDT

Hence the "an unexpected journey" part.

  • 12.24.2012 2:57 PM PDT


Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: Technoxious


While I commend you for not insulting me like everyone else unfortunately your explanations don't really help at all, as none of that was stated in the movies.


Well the movie was already long enough as it is...they can't explain everything.

  • 12.24.2012 2:58 PM PDT

Wow just wow... Read the bloody books man!

  • 12.24.2012 2:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: hammy111
Wow just wow... Read the bloody books man!


*Facepalm*

  • 12.24.2012 2:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: M4L1K jr
Why can't people like you understand that the Eagles have their own -blam!- to do. The eagles actually have a king as well. The king eagle decides whether or not they should aid a cause. Also, the only reason why the eagles helped Gandalf was because both Gandalf and the eagles are Maiar.


Tell me when this was explained in the movie?

If you noticed, the title of this thread is "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" plot holes. I am talking about the movie plot holes.


So, let me get this straight. You went to the cinema expecting the movie to explain every piece of lore? That would only extend the length of the film. I'm not sitting my ass in a cinema waiting for a possibly six hour movie to finish, I've got better things to do.

  • 12.24.2012 3:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: M4L1K jr
Posted by: Forever MS

Posted by: M4L1K jr
Why can't people like you understand that the Eagles have their own -blam!- to do. The eagles actually have a king as well. The king eagle decides whether or not they should aid a cause. Also, the only reason why the eagles helped Gandalf was because both Gandalf and the eagles are Maiar.


Tell me when this was explained in the movie?

If you noticed, the title of this thread is "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" plot holes. I am talking about the movie plot holes.


So, let me get this straight. You went to the cinema expecting the movie to explain every piece of lore? That would only extend the length of the film. I'm not sitting my ass in a cinema waiting for a possibly six hour movie to finish, I've got better things to do.


No they don't have to explain every piece of lore they should have given a short explanation for things that currently don't make sense IN THE MOVIE.

  • 12.24.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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