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Break down, every single one of you.
Posted by: Forever MS
Posted by: xAT 117x
Posted by: Forever MS
I am dying of laughter from all you dummies who think reading a book is a requirement to understand the movie.
Stay intelligent Flood.
And I'm literally amazed how you seem to deem not reading a book a sign of intelligence.
If you are not intelligent enough to spot plot holes and move past them realising that it would make for a boring story without them, then I would advise you refrain from spouting your nonsense.
Did all of you somehow miss one of the only actual intelligent posts in this thread?
"The books and the movie are two separate things. If an adaptation can't stand on its own then it fails, in any medium."However, Middle-Earth has a very rich and detailed history. In books, authors can take the time to explain the history and why everything happens. In movies, it is very hard to do without boring the audience since explaining such things could take an extra 15 minutes of almost pure dialogue.
For example, the wizards are Valar. The Valar are spirit creatures created by the god before the creation of the world. A while after the world was created and the Enemy made his way to Middle-Earth, five of the Valar (the wizards) were sent to aid and guide the races against the enemy. However, they were instructed to not use force to oppose the enemy. Basically, there restricted to only guide the races in their efforts. That is why Gandalf only acts himself when he absolutely needs to.
As to the Hobbits, they can be valiant, but they have lived for hundreds of years in almost absolute peace. That tends to make people go soft. It is also said in the books that they have slow building courage. So it takes them a while to gather their will in battle. AS for pickpocketing the trolls, Biblo only did that because they would have been unable to travel quickly without them. It was necessary.
Now to the Eagles. The Eagles are proud and noble. The leader of the Eagles eventually becomes the king of all birds. They are not in the business of ferrying people around. They only reason they carried the dwarves at all is because they were in the area and it was Gandalf, and because of who he was, that called for their aid. Had it been anyone else, they would not have come. Also, they hate goblins and orcs. Anything that would anger the orcs was worth doing to them.
Now what I have said is a very brief overview of of these subjects. Imagine having to take the time in the movie to explain all of the and keep the audiences. It would take a while and would be hard to do. Tolkien didn't even include all this information in th LoTR or the Hobbit. The history of Middle-Earth had to be gathered posthumously by Tolkein's son in the book The Silmarillion. That is why you saw these "plot holes." Because they couldn't take the time in the movie to explain everything.
[Edited on 12.24.2012 3:19 PM PST]