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Subject: Battlefield 3 - A Dumb Door's early perspective

Posted by: PheonixofLight
Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: PheonixofLight
I never had any problem with anything you said. Nor am I any of the things you said you aren't.

To be honest, I don't see anything more than complaining about arbitrary things.
Have you played any of the previous games in the series? Did you have someone help walk you through in some way? Did you research the game a bit more before release/you played it?


I have played both Bad Companys, BF3, and some arcade one that I can never remember the year in the title. But my first time playing BF:BC 1 did not include anything complaint worthy like what you have stated, nor do I feel BF3 was really all that different in those ways that you are complaining about.

And no, I did not research it, nor did I have anyone help me.

I am not saying you are wrong in your opinion, but still, regardless of whether or not I was new to the series, your complaints still seem arbitrary.
There's your answer. You've had past experience.

This is my first attempt at a game in the Battlefield series. I do not claim that this should be completely tailored to new players, but it should at least have some way to introduce new players, or even just rusty players that haven't played in a while. Even a tutorial OPTION in the main menu would be perfect. It isn't required to be absolutely necessary.

Also, I have not played BC 1, so I don't know if it has the same issues or not, but I'd be willing to bet that it doesn't have these issues as starkly apparent.

  • 12.24.2012 7:44 PM PDT

Thank you so much dude
due to your amazing opinions and all around amazingness i now know if i would like to buy the game based on your 20 minutes of playtime
thank you so much you god

i mean really?

  • 12.24.2012 7:46 PM PDT

Posted by: cameo_cream
They did explain who the PLR by the way, you've got to pay attention.

My experience of it is it tries to give you a more realistic setting of a soldier, none of this CoD "I am teh best fighter and my destiny is to gun down thousands of well trained soldiers with ease.

I didnt 'love' the campaign - it was very average actually. But it was certainly better than something Call of Duty produces.
That's the thing. I'm all for realistic portrayals of soldiers, but even soldiers go through basic training to learn all the nuances. I, the player, have not been through ANY sort of military training. At least give me the recruitment pamphlet so that I know what I'm getting into here, game!

  • 12.24.2012 7:46 PM PDT

What's so hard to understand? All you do is run and shoot.

  • 12.24.2012 7:47 PM PDT

Posted by: jackstaaaaa
Thank you so much dude
due to your amazing opinions and all around amazingness i now know if i would like to buy the game based on your 20 minutes of playtime
thank you so much you god

i mean really?
If you think that this is a review of the entire game as OPPOSED to the initial experience, you've missed the point entirely.

  • 12.24.2012 7:49 PM PDT

On the Left

Godshatter: I can go all the way with someone without being attracted to them.
CamCamm: How does that work?
Godshatter: I'm easily aroused by anything that moves. It's a curse.
Brain says 'No, that's ugly', body says 'ugly is fine with me'.


Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: cameo_cream
They did explain who the PLR by the way, you've got to pay attention.

My experience of it is it tries to give you a more realistic setting of a soldier, none of this CoD "I am teh best fighter and my destiny is to gun down thousands of well trained soldiers with ease.

I didnt 'love' the campaign - it was very average actually. But it was certainly better than something Call of Duty produces.
That's the thing. I'm all for realistic portrayals of soldiers, but even soldiers go through basic training to learn all the nuances. I, the player, have not been through ANY sort of military training. At least give me the recruitment pamphlet so that I know what I'm getting into here, game!

You should hop on Arma 2 or some of those Americas Army

  • 12.24.2012 7:49 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.

>Plays BF3
>Expects the entire replay value of the game to lie in its campaign

lol

  • 12.24.2012 7:50 PM PDT


Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: jackstaaaaa
Thank you so much dude
due to your amazing opinions and all around amazingness i now know if i would like to buy the game based on your 20 minutes of playtime
thank you so much you god

i mean really?
If you think that this is a review of the entire game as OPPOSED to the initial experience, you've missed the point entirely.

then why did you even post the thread
like who cares about your initial experience

  • 12.24.2012 7:51 PM PDT

why on earth are you playing the campaign I ask? The multiplayer is where it's at ...

  • 12.24.2012 7:51 PM PDT

Posted by: l Supertramp l
What's so hard to understand? All you do is run and shoot.
No, Serious Sam is just running and shooting, and I enjoyed the beginning of that game FAR more than this one.

This game has a lot of mechanics and dialogue which remains unexplained to new players. Were there more effort into guiding the player into the specifics of controls and mechanics, this game would not have made me put it down the first time as early. Sure, I picked it up again, thinking I might have just gotten it wrong, but another couple of hours of gameplay only further cemented my feelings about the campaign. Multiplayer didn't help change those views at all, either.

  • 12.24.2012 7:52 PM PDT

Please stop complaining about the 'death of a loved one' it's my job. They probably deserved it anyways. Here's a warning, if you keep making pentagrams out of the neighbors livestock I will personally come to your house and kill everyone you love. Now leave me alone, I got to get back to work.
~M.D~

Don't worry, door. I'm in the same boat as you. I found it was kind of unplayable. That was my first time playing that game, it was the last. I don't want to try the others. I'm normally the best in those types of games yet I died the first ten seconds of spawning in multiplayer.

  • 12.24.2012 7:52 PM PDT

Posted by: jackstaaaaa
Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: jackstaaaaa
Thank you so much dude
due to your amazing opinions and all around amazingness i now know if i would like to buy the game based on your 20 minutes of playtime
thank you so much you god

i mean really?
If you think that this is a review of the entire game as OPPOSED to the initial experience, you've missed the point entirely.
then why did you even post the thread
like who cares about your initial experience
Because the game has such a blatantly problem with its beginning that it deserves attention. Developers should learn from a mistake such as this which is present in the beginning, and I feel that informing the public about such glaring flaws and promoting discussion about them has just that little chance of finding its way to the gaming industry.

  • 12.24.2012 7:53 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.

It sounds like you didn't enjoy it because, well... you weren't good at it?

^ That's basically the jist I'm getting

[Edited on 12.24.2012 7:54 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 7:54 PM PDT

"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle- victorious"

A dumb door has returned?! Holy -blam!-, I thought you died. Where have you been?

  • 12.24.2012 7:54 PM PDT


Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: jackstaaaaa
Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: jackstaaaaa
Thank you so much dude
due to your amazing opinions and all around amazingness i now know if i would like to buy the game based on your 20 minutes of playtime
thank you so much you god

i mean really?
If you think that this is a review of the entire game as OPPOSED to the initial experience, you've missed the point entirely.
then why did you even post the thread
like who cares about your initial experience
Because the game has such a blatantly problem with its beginning that it deserves attention. Developers should learn from a mistake such as this which is present in the beginning, and I feel that informing the public about such glaring flaws and promoting discussion about them has just that little chance of finding its way to the gaming industry.

ya i know if i was a game designer i'd come to the flood

  • 12.24.2012 7:55 PM PDT

Posted by: ansac11
I think these guys do a pretty good job of explaining what your feeling.

GO TO 3:10 IN THE VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWFzFsHc75U&feature=share& amp;list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg
I flippin' love Extra Credits. In fact, looking back at that video, BF3 is probably the best example of this. If I could, I'd make everyone here watch that video before they post here, just so that they understand what I'm talking about.

  • 12.24.2012 7:55 PM PDT

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
It sounds like you didn't enjoy it because, well... you weren't good at it?

^ That's basically the jist I'm getting
I didn't enjoy it because I wasn't properly introduced. An analogy I used earlier is that it's akin to being thrown into a pool without even being asked if you can swim. Sure, some people have swam before, but what if you grew up such that you never learned? At least let me go in myself and figure out how to swim before making me race a shark though white waters and off a waterfall.

  • 12.24.2012 7:57 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
It sounds like you didn't enjoy it because, well... you weren't good at it?

^ That's basically the jist I'm getting
I didn't enjoy it because I wasn't properly introduced. An analogy I used earlier is that it's akin to being thrown into a pool without even being asked if you can swim. Sure, some people have swam before, but what if you grew up such that you never learned? At least let me go in myself and figure out how to swim before making me race a shark though white waters and off a waterfall.


To be honest, I like battlefield 3 because of the difficult learning curve.

It actually takes some critical thinking, a lot of trial and error, and some skill to be successful at the game.

  • 12.24.2012 8:00 PM PDT

Wait, is this entire post about the single player? You must be joking.

OP, you're doing it wrong. So, so unbelievably wrong. Flip it over to MP and you will understand.

  • 12.24.2012 8:01 PM PDT

On the Left

Godshatter: I can go all the way with someone without being attracted to them.
CamCamm: How does that work?
Godshatter: I'm easily aroused by anything that moves. It's a curse.
Brain says 'No, that's ugly', body says 'ugly is fine with me'.

Play Dark Souls. You might like that game.

  • 12.24.2012 8:01 PM PDT

Posted by: AwesomeDude69
So... what I'm getting from all of this is that you bought a game known for its multiplayer, but decided to play campaign instead. After realising you were bad at said campaign and didn't know what to do (because you're bad at the game), you then went into multiplayer where you again didn't know what to do (because you're bad at the game).

Haha okay.
Please either actually read my first post, or just not even try to be snark here. You've missed the broad side of the barn so badly you ended up on the wrong continent.

I never said I was bad at the campaign. I still played through just fine. I beat the jet mission first try, I got through most large areas without dying, but every time I did, it was due to no fault of my own. It was because I was uninformed about the game. In fact, that specific instance where I died many times in the beginning I beat because I decided to play my own way rather than the way the game wanted me to. I figured out a better alternate route than the one the game supplied me with.

  • 12.24.2012 8:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
It sounds like you didn't enjoy it because, well... you weren't good at it?

^ That's basically the jist I'm getting
Jets.

  • 12.24.2012 8:03 PM PDT

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
Posted by: A Dumb Door
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
It sounds like you didn't enjoy it because, well... you weren't good at it?

^ That's basically the jist I'm getting
I didn't enjoy it because I wasn't properly introduced. An analogy I used earlier is that it's akin to being thrown into a pool without even being asked if you can swim. Sure, some people have swam before, but what if you grew up such that you never learned? At least let me go in myself and figure out how to swim before making me race a shark though white waters and off a waterfall.
To be honest, I like battlefield 3 because of the difficult learning curve.

It actually takes some critical thinking, a lot of trial and error, and some skill to be successful at the game.
A guy posted a video earlier, and it has a perfect line in here that I feel is perfecly applicable to your post: link for reference. In fact, check out that entire video. It illustrates my point better that I probably can.

  • 12.24.2012 8:04 PM PDT

GAAAAYYY

I really tried to read this i really did! But its just so hard :(

  • 12.24.2012 8:05 PM PDT