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Subject: What Gives america the right to intervene in other countries affairs?

White man's burden

Oh wait, wrong empire

Something like democracy burden or some crap

  • 12.24.2012 9:52 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervine in other countries affairs?

GAAAAYYY

Simple. With great power comes great responsibility.

  • 12.24.2012 9:53 PM PDT

Bahumbug. And I'm straight edge.
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Shut up, it's the Holidays!

Enjoy yourselves! And don't get too drunk!

  • 12.24.2012 9:54 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervene in other countries affairs?

Hm. Smart....
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: MilitaryTheorist

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, you argue that have no obligation to enforce our morals on another country.

Perhaps you are right.

However, there are times when it simply goes to far.

- Almost every country in the world is part of the U.N.
- Most countries have willingly put themselves under the jurisdiction of the international criminal court.
- Almost every country in the world signed the geneva convention.

There are certain rules that every country in the world has agreed to follow. We have all agreed to not commit certain crimes, such as Genocide. And when one country breaks this contract, it is the responsibility of the other countries to bring them to justice.

All moral codes are different in some way. But almost every country in the world has agreed to a certain basic set of morals; to not commit certain crimes, specifically war crimes. That's a standard that almost every country in the world has legally agreed to by putting their signature on a piece of paper. That's a standard that everyone has legally agreed to.


Most likely the best post here. Are you a college student?


Nope. I'm a senior in high school.

  • 12.24.2012 9:56 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervine in other countries affairs?

"There's this theory that if there were an infinite number of monkeys pecking away at typewriters, they would eventually write the great works of Shakespeare, but thanks to the internet we now know that's not true." -Adam Savage

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Posted by: JohnyRL
Again. Hold your own opinion. Every country has the right to hold true to their own moral principles and not have those of others enforced onto them. YOU think its horrible.

I think it's horrible because it IS horrible. It's wrong in every respect and I don't care who you say you are or where you come from, IT IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT. There comes a point when we just have to draw the line and say for the greater good that something is not acceptable. Let me just ask you, according to Hitler, it was entirely and completely right and justifiable to kill all of those millions of Jews. According to your logic, we should have just allowed him to do as he pleased because after all, he was following his own morality and doing what he thought was right. We shouldn't have interfered with that mass slaughter because he has different ways of thinking, right? We should never have tried to stop him because that would be forcing our own opinions on him.

  • 12.24.2012 9:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: JohnyRL
Bahumbug. And I'm straight edge.
Posted by: MarlboroMan
Shut up, it's the Holidays!

Enjoy yourselves! And don't get too drunk!


Bahumbug?
Tonight, you shall be visited by 3 ghosts...

  • 12.24.2012 9:56 PM PDT

Muffins are just ugly cupcakes

Because standing by while other people suffer isn't good for our development as a country or as a species.

  • 12.24.2012 9:58 PM PDT

GTFO ghosts
Posted by: MarlboroMan

Posted by: JohnyRL
Bahumbug. And I'm straight edge.
Posted by: MarlboroMan
Shut up, it's the Holidays!

Enjoy yourselves! And don't get too drunk!


Bahumbug?
Tonight, you shall be visited by 3 ghosts...

  • 12.24.2012 9:59 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervene in other countries affairs?

Key

Biggest military on the Earth by a huge margin means you can interfere in whatever you want, pretty much.

  • 12.24.2012 9:59 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.

One final thing, OP.

You're trying to say that people shouldn't force their opinions on others.

Well, that will never be the norm. Humans will always do whatever benefits themselves, whether that benefit be material or moral in nature.

It's human nature. You can't change it.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 10:01 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 10:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: JohnyRL
GTFO ghosts
Posted by: MarlboroMan

Posted by: JohnyRL
Bahumbug. And I'm straight edge.
Posted by: MarlboroMan
Shut up, it's the Holidays!

Enjoy yourselves! And don't get too drunk!


Bahumbug?
Tonight, you shall be visited by 3 ghosts...


-blam!- you, I'm a ghost.

  • 12.24.2012 10:01 PM PDT
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Yup.


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
One final thing, OP.

You're trying to say that people shouldn't force their opinions on others.

Well, that will never be the norm. Humans will always do whatever benefits themselves, whether that benefit be material or moral in nature.

It's human nature. You can't change it.


Same could be said about killing people :/

  • 12.24.2012 10:01 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervine in other countries affairs?

If hitler was obeying the laws of his own country in his acts and not attacking other nation then yea, there would be nothing "wrong" what he was doing. The fact is. Internationally speaking, it isnt wrong. YOU think its wrong. But that's your own opinion. If they believe what they are doing is right, and they you dont, then what makes you better than them? Nothing. Right and wrong and totally subjective.
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Posted by: JohnyRL
Again. Hold your own opinion. Every country has the right to hold true to their own moral principles and not have those of others enforced onto them. YOU think its horrible.

I think it's horrible because it IS horrible. It's wrong in every respect and I don't care who you say you are or where you come from, IT IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT. There comes a point when we just have to draw the line and say for the greater good that something is not acceptable. Let me just ask you, according to Hitler, it was entirely and completely right and justifiable to kill all of those millions of Jews. According to your logic, we should have just allowed him to do as he pleased because after all, he was following his own morality and doing what he thought was right. We shouldn't have interfered with that mass slaughter because he has different ways of thinking, right? We should never have tried to stop him because that would be forcing our own opinions on him.

  • 12.24.2012 10:02 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervene in other countries affairs?

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
One final thing, OP.

You're trying to say that people shouldn't force their opinions on others.

Well, that will never be the norm. Humans will always do whatever benefits themselves, whether that benefit be material or moral in nature.

It's human nature. You can't change it.


Same could be said about killing people :/


Yep. As long as humans live, war will exist.

Sucks, don't it?

  • 12.24.2012 10:02 PM PDT

Turkey

Because nukes.

  • 12.24.2012 10:03 PM PDT

I understand that and I think its depressing.
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
One final thing, OP.

You're trying to say that people shouldn't force their opinions on others.

Well, that will never be the norm. Humans will always do whatever benefits themselves, whether that benefit be material or moral in nature.

It's human nature. You can't change it.

  • 12.24.2012 10:03 PM PDT

Johnny I used to play with you don't remember what happened interesting to see you on b.net.

  • 12.24.2012 10:04 PM PDT
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Yup.


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
One final thing, OP.

You're trying to say that people shouldn't force their opinions on others.

Well, that will never be the norm. Humans will always do whatever benefits themselves, whether that benefit be material or moral in nature.

It's human nature. You can't change it.


Same could be said about killing people :/


Yep. As long as humans live, war will exist.

Sucks, don't it?


'Tis a shame.

  • 12.24.2012 10:04 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: JohnyRL
If hitler was obeying the laws of his own country in his acts and not attacking other nation then yea, there would be nothing "wrong" what he was doing. The fact is. Internationally speaking, it isnt wrong. YOU think its wrong. But that's your own opinion. If they believe what they are doing is right, and they you dont, then what makes you better than them? Nothing. Right and wrong and totally subjective.


So is your point of view. Your point of view is subjective as well.
What YOU think is "right" (not intervening) is just as subjective as what he thinks is moral.

You're being a hypocrite.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 10:05 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 10:04 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervine in other countries affairs?

"There's this theory that if there were an infinite number of monkeys pecking away at typewriters, they would eventually write the great works of Shakespeare, but thanks to the internet we now know that's not true." -Adam Savage

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Posted by: JohnyRL
If hitler was obeying the laws of his own country in his acts and not attacking other nation then yea, there would be nothing "wrong" what he was doing. The fact is. Internationally speaking, it isnt wrong. YOU think its wrong. But that's your own opinion. If they believe what they are doing is right, and they you dont, then what makes you better than them? Nothing. Right and wrong and totally subjective.
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: JohnyRL
Again. Hold your own opinion. Every country has the right to hold true to their own moral principles and not have those of others enforced onto them. YOU think its horrible.

I think it's horrible because it IS horrible. It's wrong in every respect and I don't care who you say you are or where you come from, IT IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT. There comes a point when we just have to draw the line and say for the greater good that something is not acceptable. Let me just ask you, according to Hitler, it was entirely and completely right and justifiable to kill all of those millions of Jews. According to your logic, we should have just allowed him to do as he pleased because after all, he was following his own morality and doing what he thought was right. We shouldn't have interfered with that mass slaughter because he has different ways of thinking, right? We should never have tried to stop him because that would be forcing our own opinions on him.

So if Hitler didn't attack any other nations but continued to kill millions of people purely for the sake that his supreme German race could advance, you would have no problem with it whatsoever? You would feel absolutely nothing for the millions of people forever silenced?

  • 12.24.2012 10:05 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervene in other countries affairs?

Hmm. Really? Sure you dont have the wrong Johnny? I honestly cant remember. What did we play?
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Johnny I used to play with you don't remember what happened interesting to see you on b.net.

  • 12.24.2012 10:06 PM PDT

I guess I am arnt I.
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: JohnyRL
If hitler was obeying the laws of his own country in his acts and not attacking other nation then yea, there would be nothing "wrong" what he was doing. The fact is. Internationally speaking, it isnt wrong. YOU think its wrong. But that's your own opinion. If they believe what they are doing is right, and they you dont, then what makes you better than them? Nothing. Right and wrong and totally subjective.


So is your point of view. Your point of view is subjective as well.
What YOU think is "right" (not intervening) is just as subjective as what he thinks is moral.

You're being a hypocrite.

  • 12.24.2012 10:07 PM PDT
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PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE.

CUZ MURICA

  • 12.24.2012 10:08 PM PDT

Did I ever mention feeling? I believe if he isnt breaking international law, then he can do what he wishes within the grounds of his country's laws. Nothing to do with feeling. I FEEL for those hundreds of middle eastern soliders fighting for what they believe is right to be 'murica'd for the sake of their ambitions conflicting with ours.

Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: JohnyRL
If hitler was obeying the laws of his own country in his acts and not attacking other nation then yea, there would be nothing "wrong" what he was doing. The fact is. Internationally speaking, it isnt wrong. YOU think its wrong. But that's your own opinion. If they believe what they are doing is right, and they you dont, then what makes you better than them? Nothing. Right and wrong and totally subjective.
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: JohnyRL
Again. Hold your own opinion. Every country has the right to hold true to their own moral principles and not have those of others enforced onto them. YOU think its horrible.

I think it's horrible because it IS horrible. It's wrong in every respect and I don't care who you say you are or where you come from, IT IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT. There comes a point when we just have to draw the line and say for the greater good that something is not acceptable. Let me just ask you, according to Hitler, it was entirely and completely right and justifiable to kill all of those millions of Jews. According to your logic, we should have just allowed him to do as he pleased because after all, he was following his own morality and doing what he thought was right. We shouldn't have interfered with that mass slaughter because he has different ways of thinking, right? We should never have tried to stop him because that would be forcing our own opinions on him.

So if Hitler didn't attack any other nations but continued to kill millions of people purely for the sake that his supreme German race could advance, you would have no problem with it whatsoever? You would feel absolutely nothing for the millions of people forever silenced?


[Edited on 12.24.2012 10:18 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 10:11 PM PDT
Subject: What Gives america the right to intervine in other countries affairs?

"There's this theory that if there were an infinite number of monkeys pecking away at typewriters, they would eventually write the great works of Shakespeare, but thanks to the internet we now know that's not true." -Adam Savage

"Time is not made out of lines. It is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round." -Caboose

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Posted by: JohnyRL
Did I ever mention feeling? I believe if he isnt breaking international law, then he can do what he wishes within the grounds of his country's laws. Nothing to do with feeling. I FEEL for those hundreds of middel eastern soliders fighting for what they believe is right to be 'murica'd for the sake of their ambitions conflicting with ours.

Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: JohnyRL
If hitler was obeying the laws of his own country in his acts and not attacking other nation then yea, there would be nothing "wrong" what he was doing. The fact is. Internationally speaking, it isnt wrong. YOU think its wrong. But that's your own opinion. If they believe what they are doing is right, and they you dont, then what makes you better than them? Nothing. Right and wrong and totally subjective.
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: JohnyRL
Again. Hold your own opinion. Every country has the right to hold true to their own moral principles and not have those of others enforced onto them. YOU think its horrible.

I think it's horrible because it IS horrible. It's wrong in every respect and I don't care who you say you are or where you come from, IT IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT. There comes a point when we just have to draw the line and say for the greater good that something is not acceptable. Let me just ask you, according to Hitler, it was entirely and completely right and justifiable to kill all of those millions of Jews. According to your logic, we should have just allowed him to do as he pleased because after all, he was following his own morality and doing what he thought was right. We shouldn't have interfered with that mass slaughter because he has different ways of thinking, right? We should never have tried to stop him because that would be forcing our own opinions on him.

So if Hitler didn't attack any other nations but continued to kill millions of people purely for the sake that his supreme German race could advance, you would have no problem with it whatsoever? You would feel absolutely nothing for the millions of people forever silenced?

That's... just....

wow man. So you would do absolutely nothing. If you had the power to save millions of people, you would do nothing. You would just sit there in your throne of power, look over at your neighbor killing millions of people and wouldn't even lift a finger to save even just a few. I just can't believe how heartless you would have to be to be like that.

  • 12.24.2012 10:17 PM PDT