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Subject: NY newspaper publishes map of legal gun owners

Posted by: Great_Pretender
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Posted by: xODSTxDutch
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?
>Implying that you can't take someone's life without a gun.

Most guns in the United States that are used legally are used for recreation, the other guns that are used legally are used for home and self-defense.

Oh no, so scary. People are having fun at the range and defending their lives.

  • 12.25.2012 8:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: xODSTxDutch
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?
>Implying that you can't take someone's life without a gun.

Most guns in the United States that are used legally are used for recreation, the other guns that are used legally are used for home and self-defense.

Oh no, so scary. People are having fun at the range and defending their lives.
And killing 10,000 people in the process

  • 12.25.2012 8:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Prophet0fValor
Seriously though, what a bunch of idiots. Wonder how many of those are cops or prosecutors. I hope this newspaper gets cleaned out.
Why? Living in a country where guns are banned for civilians entirely, I don't understand what's wrong with this publication.

I find gun-holders in basically every street frightening, no matter what kind of people are these.

  • 12.25.2012 8:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mr Reaganomics

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Suicide=/=Homicide. And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me

Then go buy a gun yourself, duh. Even if guns were outlawed in this country, I would just break the law, because I am keeping my weapons.
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?

Well I guess so, considering that we all own knives in our house. If you don't like the fact that you can take someone's life, why don't you go ahead and ban guns, knives, axes, spears, forks, saws, blades, maces, bow and arrows, pillows, cars, and hammers. Those can all kill people.

  • 12.25.2012 8:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
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Posted by: Xplode441
>Implying that you can't take someone's life without a gun.

Most guns in the United States that are used legally are used for recreation, the other guns that are used legally are used for home and self-defense.

Oh no, so scary. People are having fun at the range and defending their lives.


Wait, so people don't break the law when they use guns legally? Oh, thank god.

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Posted by: Doctor Genius
Education level plays a role in whether someone owns a gun. According to Gallup, 29% of college graduates say they personally own a gun, compared with 40% of those without a college degree.

Well, that's a lot of people who shouldn't have guns.

Hmm... and let's take a look at why that might be.

Maybe it's the fact that most universities don't allow firearms on their property!!! Yeah, that seems right. I've never thought of that before.
...?

Unless people live on university campuses for the rest of their lives after they graduate, I don't see how you came to that conclusion.

  • 12.25.2012 8:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
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Posted by: xODSTxDutch
And killing 10,000 people in the process
In homicide, not in legal defense or for recreation. Stop arguing, you're making yourself look ignorant.

Besides, there's tens of millions of gun owners in the US, and you tout ten thousand deaths like it's even comparable to the number of guns in the US.

Posted by: Seggi31
Wait, so people don't break the law when they use guns legally? Oh, thank god.
Stupid response. Of course. Compared to the number of deaths that occur from firearms each day (which is in decline while firearm sales are going up) many, many more firearms are used responsibly and legally.

[Edited on 12.25.2012 8:36 PM PST]

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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me
You can fix that by getting yourself a gun. Unless you have lost the right ie being a felon. And if you don't want one, that's fine.

Legal gun owners aren't going up to non-legal gun owners and waving their guns around proclaiming some sense of superiority.

So the "you>me" argument is useless and pointless and quite frankly, dumb and childish.
So fight guns with more guns? Hmmm... At cant find any flaws besides that just leaves the whole country fighting itself
You know it's weird that you say that.

Because this country has had the right for its citizens to own firearms for some 200+ years and yet we haven't resorted to an all out shooting gallery.

This country isn't fighting itself unless you count the countless arguments about healthcare, gun control, or whatever other political or religious topic. And as heated as those arguments get, it rarely ever results in the participants grabbing their guns and shooting it out.

  • 12.25.2012 8:33 PM PDT


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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: Mr Reaganomics

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Suicide=/=Homicide. And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me

Then go buy a gun yourself, duh. Even if guns were outlawed in this country, I would just break the law, because I am keeping my weapons.
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?

Well I guess so, considering that we all own knives in our house. If you don't like the fact that you can take someone's life, why don't you go ahead and ban guns, knives, axes, spears, forks, saws, blades, maces, bow and arrows, pillows, cars, and hammers. Those can all kill people.
Youre taking this way out of proportion, If someone attacks me with a pillow or fork, i can fight back. If someone has a gun, im -blam!- ed

  • 12.25.2012 8:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Murcielago00
Because this country has had the right for its citizens to own firearms for some 200+ years and yet we haven't resorted to an all out shooting gallery.


Well, you kinda did once :P

Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: Seggi31
Wait, so people don't break the law when they use guns legally? Oh, thank god.
Stupid response. Of course. Compared to the number of deaths that occur from firearms each day (which is in decline while firearm sales are going up) many, many more firearms are used responsibly and legally.


Yes, firearms are overwhelmingly used legally, but I'm not convinced that the value derived from their use compensates for the number of people who are killed or wounded by irresponsible or illegal firearm use.

[Edited on 12.25.2012 8:40 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2012 8:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: Mr Reaganomics

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Suicide=/=Homicide. And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me

Then go buy a gun yourself, duh. Even if guns were outlawed in this country, I would just break the law, because I am keeping my weapons.
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?

Well I guess so, considering that we all own knives in our house. If you don't like the fact that you can take someone's life, why don't you go ahead and ban guns, knives, axes, spears, forks, saws, blades, maces, bow and arrows, pillows, cars, and hammers. Those can all kill people.
Dat equivalency fallacy.

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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: Mr Reaganomics

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Suicide=/=Homicide. And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me

Then go buy a gun yourself, duh. Even if guns were outlawed in this country, I would just break the law, because I am keeping my weapons.
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?

Well I guess so, considering that we all own knives in our house. If you don't like the fact that you can take someone's life, why don't you go ahead and ban guns, knives, axes, spears, forks, saws, blades, maces, bow and arrows, pillows, cars, and hammers. Those can all kill people.
Youre taking this way out of proportion, If someone attacks me with a pillow or fork, i can fight back. If someone has a gun, im -blam!- ed
Why are you fighting someone with a gun? If you say because you 're the victim of some crime than chances are it is an illegally acquired firearm anyway.

  • 12.25.2012 8:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: xODSTxDutch
And killing 10,000 people in the process
In homicide, not in legal defense or for recreation. Stop arguing, you're making yourself look ignorant.

Besides, there's tens of millions of gun owners in the US, and you tout ten thousand deaths like it's even comparable to the number of guns in the US.

Posted by: Seggi31
Wait, so people don't break the law when they use guns legally? Oh, thank god.
Stupid response. Of course. Compared to the number of deaths that occur from firearms each day (which is in decline while firearm sales are going up) many, many more firearms are used responsibly and legally.
Oh, only 10,000 people are losing their lives. No big deal guys, its not comparable anyways

  • 12.25.2012 8:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: EnragedElite67
"The problem with quotes on the internet is 95% are made up." - Socrates

Ok, here are my sources.

I concede that sucides do not account for 70% of firearm related deaths. It's only around 50%
Huffpo just for you dutchers.

That leaves round 40% for homicide.

Now lets put your average joe into perspective. There are 3.7 people killed per 100,000. The US has a population of 311,591,917 people.

I cannot pinpoint it, but most murders are committed against people who are connected with crime, or people the murderer knows. Be it in the drug war, or Gang v Gang. Your every day average person isn't often murdered out of the blue.

  • 12.25.2012 8:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: Mr Reaganomics

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Suicide=/=Homicide. And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me

Then go buy a gun yourself, duh. Even if guns were outlawed in this country, I would just break the law, because I am keeping my weapons.
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?

Well I guess so, considering that we all own knives in our house. If you don't like the fact that you can take someone's life, why don't you go ahead and ban guns, knives, axes, spears, forks, saws, blades, maces, bow and arrows, pillows, cars, and hammers. Those can all kill people.
Youre taking this way out of proportion, If someone attacks me with a pillow or fork, i can fight back. If someone has a gun, im -blam!- ed

Not if you have a gun to defend yourself with.

The fact of the matter is that there is this thing called a black market. The black market will supply criminals with whatever firearms they need. Just go ahead and take a look at Mexico. Mexico has a ban on any type of firearm in some cities. That's been working pretty well for them considering how many people the drug cartels kill every day with guns in places like Juarez.

[Edited on 12.25.2012 8:44 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2012 8:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
-TGP-

Posted by: King Dutchy
Dat equivalency fallacy.
Fallacy fallacy, assuming that someone's argument is rendered moot because of the use of a fallacy. Stahp

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Oh, only 10,000 people are losing their lives. No big deal guys, its not comparable anyways
Most guns linked to crime were purchased illegally. Yeah, let's punish the people who weren't following the law already by passing a law that hurts legal gun owners by banning guns. -blam!- genius dude.

[Edited on 12.25.2012 8:41 PM PST]

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Murcielago00
Because this country has had the right for its citizens to own firearms for some 200+ years and yet we haven't resorted to an all out shooting gallery.


Well, you kinda did once :P
Curses! :)

Yes, fair enough, but that was not a result of the citizens purchasing firearms to combat other citizens who were purchasing firearms, like the post it was addressing had stated.

And even then, the guns in the private hands of the North and South were probably not used, for the most part, illegal uses. They may have even been used to protect against the opposing army, which would be one of the reasons we have that right. Protect ourselves from foreign invaders (which was what the North and South were to each other at the time).

  • 12.25.2012 8:41 PM PDT


Posted by: SpartanMk18
Ok, here are my sources.

I concede that sucides do not account for 70% of firearm related deaths. It's only around 50%
Huffpo just for you dutchers.

That leaves round 40% for homicide.

Now lets put your average joe into perspective. There are 3.7 people killed per 100,000. The US has a population of 311,591,917 people.

I cannot pinpoint it, but most murders are committed against people who are connected with crime, or people the murderer knows. Be it in the drug war, or Gang v Gang. Your every day average person isn't often murdered out of the blue.

40% of 100,000 isn't 3.7 bro

  • 12.25.2012 8:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: King Dutchy
Dat equivalency fallacy.
Fallacy fallacy, assuming that someone's argument is rendered moot because of the use of a fallacy. Stahp


Well, no, the fallacy fallacy is when it is proposed that the conclusion of an argument is false because the argument is invalid. Making use of a fallacy does, actually, invalidate the argument in which it is used.

Posted by: Murcielago00
Curses! :)

Yes, fair enough, but that was not a result of the citizens purchasing firearms to combat other citizens who were purchasing firearms, like the post it was addressing had stated.

And even then, the guns in the private hands of the North and South were probably not used, for the most part, illegal uses. They may have even been used to protect against the opposing army, which would be one of the reasons we have that right. Protect ourselves from foreign invaders (which was what the North and South were to each other at the time).


Don't worry, I was just joking.

Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Oh, only 10,000 people are losing their lives. No big deal guys, its not comparable anyways
Most guns linked to crime were purchased illegally. Yeah, let's punish the people who weren't following the law already by passing a law that hurts legal gun owners by banning guns. -blam!- genius dude.


Where exactly do those guns come from?

[Edited on 12.25.2012 8:46 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2012 8:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: Mr Reaganomics

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Suicide=/=Homicide. And yes you having a gun does pose a threat to me. It makes you > me

Then go buy a gun yourself, duh. Even if guns were outlawed in this country, I would just break the law, because I am keeping my weapons.
So everyone deserves the right to have the ability to take someones life?

Well I guess so, considering that we all own knives in our house. If you don't like the fact that you can take someone's life, why don't you go ahead and ban guns, knives, axes, spears, forks, saws, blades, maces, bow and arrows, pillows, cars, and hammers. Those can all kill people.
Dat equivalency fallacy.

Might as well ban airplanes too. If you can hijack an airplane, it effectively turns into a guided missile packed with tons of grade A jet fuel. You can't do anything to defend yourself if a plane is coming at you.

  • 12.25.2012 8:42 PM PDT

Trussingdoor is pretty kewl. He fires lasers and doesn't afraid of anything.

This can only end badly, for the gun owners AND the newspapers

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Posted by: SpartanMk18
Ok, here are my sources.

I concede that sucides do not account for 70% of firearm related deaths. It's only around 50%
Huffpo just for you dutchers.

That leaves round 40% for homicide.

Now lets put your average joe into perspective. There are 3.7 people killed per 100,000. The US has a population of 311,591,917 people.

I cannot pinpoint it, but most murders are committed against people who are connected with crime, or people the murderer knows. Be it in the drug war, or Gang v Gang. Your every day average person isn't often murdered out of the blue.

40% of 100,000 isn't 3.7 bro
40% of firearm related deaths are homicides.

Of that, per 100K people, 3.7 are killed.

Learn to read.

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Posted by: SpartanMk18
Ok, here are my sources. 




I concede that sucides do not account for 70% of firearm related deaths. It's only around 50%
Huffpo just for you dutchers. 




That leaves round 40% for homicide. 




Now lets put your average joe into perspective. There are 3.7 people killed per 100,000. The US has a population of 311,591,917 people. 




I cannot pinpoint it, but most murders are committed against people who are connected with crime, or people the murderer knows. Be it in the drug war, or Gang v Gang. Your every day average person isn't often murdered out of the blue. 




Give me a few minutes to get on my laptop to look at them.

Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: King Dutchy
Dat equivalency fallacy.
Fallacy fallacy, assuming that someone's argument is rendered moot because of the use of a fallacy. Stahp
Well...it kinda does.

  • 12.25.2012 8:43 PM PDT