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Posted by: Dr TimothyLeary
I'd be going to jail if that were my dog.

  • 12.26.2012 9:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: Methew
Posted by: What Is This1
I don't see the issue

He shot a person's pet.

A domesticated dog isn't a rabbit or a deer.


That's why they invented leashes.

A lot of people will want to get all emotional about this sort of stuff but I certainly don't care.

I own guns, and would I shoot a dog if it was on my lawn? Probably not, but if I felt it was threatening me in any way I wouldn't shed a tear if I had to shoot it.

A dog is not a person. It's the owners responsibility to keep the animal on a leash to avoid issues like this.

  • 12.26.2012 9:34 AM PDT


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Posted by: Methew
Posted by: What Is This1
I don't see the issue

He shot a person's pet.

A domesticated dog isn't a rabbit or a deer.


That's why they invented leashes.

A lot of people will want to get all emotional about this sort of stuff but I certainly don't care.

I own guns, and would I shoot a dog if it was on my lawn? Probably not, but if I felt it was threatening me in any way I wouldn't shed a tear if I had to shoot it.

A dog is not a person. It's the owners responsibility to keep the animal on a leash to avoid issues like this.
It's a 1 year old chocolate lab, not a -blam!- rottweiler. Labs are some of the sweetest dogs, and all it was doing was playing in the snow.

  • 12.26.2012 9:36 AM PDT

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  • 12.26.2012 9:37 AM PDT
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That's horrible.

I would've killed him if that were my dog.

  • 12.26.2012 9:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: What Is This1
It is still on his property for all he knew it could have been wild

Pretty sure a wild dog wouldn't look like a well groomed chocolate lab playing in the snow.

And if IRC the owner came out of his house to shoot the dog. The dog didn't run up to him while he was outside. There was no immediate threat, no immediate danger. The appropriate response if someone's dog is playing in your yard and you don't want them to is to ask the owner to remove the dog from your yard and control the animal better.

He completely ignored any of the reasonable options for handling the situation and used one that is so bat-blam!- crazy and insane that it makes me wonder how he got that gun permit for that shotgun in the first place.

Posted by: Darkm0d
That's why they invented leashes.

So the dog owner deserves to have her dog shot and the animal deserves to be killed?

Again: Extremely excessive escalation. You do not respond to a mild annoyance by shooting it with a shotgun.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 9:40 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 9:38 AM PDT


Posted by: shadowknight566
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About a dozen posts late on that one.

  • 12.26.2012 9:38 AM PDT


Posted by: Crazy LlamaX
We should shoot and kill him with a shotgun.

  • 12.26.2012 9:39 AM PDT


Posted by: LolWutBBQ
It's a 1 year old chocolate lab, not a -blam!- rottweiler. Labs are some of the sweetest dogs, and all it was doing was playing in the snow.

Doesn't matter it is still the owner's responsibility to watch over their pet. Also the age/size of the dog doesn't really matter.

  • 12.26.2012 9:39 AM PDT

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Poor dog.

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  • 12.26.2012 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Darkm0d
A dog is not a person. It's the owners responsibility to keep the animal on a leash to avoid issues like this.


Why does it matter that it was a dog instead of a person? If he can shoot a dog that randomly runs into his yard and doesn't threaten him, why shouldn't he be able to do the same to a person?

  • 12.26.2012 9:41 AM PDT

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Shooting a dog on your property is illegal unless the owner of the property is threatened by the dog.

The owner clearly stated that he shot the dog because he didn't want them playing on his property. The owner did NOT state he shot the dog because he was threatened.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 9:44 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: LolWutBBQ
It's a 1 year old chocolate lab, not a -blam!- rottweiler. Labs are some of the sweetest dogs, and all it was doing was playing in the snow.


You might be right. I doubt the person who shot is claims it was "joyfully frolicking in the snow all cute like".

If he DID say that, then he's pretty sinister. Though logically he would probably claim it was threatening him in some fashion. Your emotions would take over and try to insinuate that he is the liar in this case.

People with pitbulls will also claim the same thing. How innocent, sweet and caring their dog is. They also might be 100% correct too, but if that sweet and innocent dog came running at my kid, I won't take the chance.

As I said it originally, it's why leashes are invented. If you wana play fetch take it to a park or something.

I was attacked by three large dog's when I was a kid, so my opinions are a bit more "realistic" I suppose. I'm also more responsible than most adults. If I had a dog, any size, I would never EVER feel comfortable letting it run around in my neighborhood ever.

I would NEVER want to be the owner of the "sweet dog" that had a moment where it accidentally attacked a child, or some other dog. No matter how well mannered, trained or otherwise, you can't predict some of those actions.

Leashes.

  • 12.26.2012 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: shadowknight566
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I would feel a lot safer. Every time I walk down the street I fear for my life.

  • 12.26.2012 9:42 AM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

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Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Ugh, that is so sad. How could someone do such a cruel thing?

  • 12.26.2012 9:42 AM PDT


Posted by: Methew
Posted by: What Is This1
It is still on his property for all he knew it could have been wild

Pretty sure a wild dog wouldn't look like a well groomed chocolate lab playing in the snow.

And if IRC the owner came out of his house to shoot the dog. The dog didn't run up to him while he was outside. There was no immediate threat, no immediate danger. The appropriate response if someone's dog is playing in your yard and you don't want them to is to ask the owner to remove the dog from your yard and control the animal better.

He completely ignored any of the reasonable options for handling the situation and used one that is so bat-blam!- crazy and insane that it makes me wonder how he got that gun permit for that shotgun in the first place.

You assumed he knew the owner when the fact is she was out of town. The most appropriate response would be to call animal control to deal with it even then animal control can be very lazy in which case some people feel it is necessary to take the law into their own hands. Considering it is his property he is within his rights to do so. As for using a firearm in residential areas I do think that was negligence on his part for the safety of others.

  • 12.26.2012 9:42 AM PDT


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: LolWutBBQ
It's a 1 year old chocolate lab, not a -blam!- rottweiler. Labs are some of the sweetest dogs, and all it was doing was playing in the snow.

Doesn't matter it is still the owner's responsibility to watch over their pet. Also the age/size of the dog doesn't really matter.
So you think it'd be fine to shoot a chihuahua? Because according to you size doesn't matter. And yeah the owner is responsible to look after the dog, but if all it was doing was playing in the snow then the owner shouldn't have to expect some -blam!-head to come out guns blazing. Any reasonable person who had a problem could have just said "Please take your dog off my lawn."

  • 12.26.2012 9:43 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Which is why I am curious as to the layout and density of the town where this happened.

In a city or any typical suburb, this wouldn't be acceptable. Out of town, out into a more rural area? I wouldn't use a shotgun for keeping animals off of my property (a fence is more reliable and effective), but it is more common and while a huge blow for the dog owner, if this was out in "farm country", then strange animals near your house are typically strays and/or feral and shooting them is not incredibly unusual.

Marne, Iowa population 120. Yeah, this is farm country.

Here's a map. If this neighbor was "in town" (all 5 streets of it) then there is something else (some sort of bad blood or small town feud) going on here and the woman should have known to keep her dog off of "that guy's" lawn.

  • 12.26.2012 9:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: Darkm0d
Leashes.


I take my dogs out in my yard all of the time without a leash (it's hard to play frisbee when the dog is stuck on a two foot tether). Occasionally they run into my neighbors' yards (and their dogs into mine as well). Nothing happens. The dogs are well trained and don't come close to acting like they're threatening anyone. Just because a dog strolls onto your property doesn't mean it's automatically sentenced to death. If it's not threatening you (or anyone else), then you have no business instigating conflict.

  • 12.26.2012 9:44 AM PDT

I think the thing I find the most pathetic is that the charge he received wasn't even related to shooting the dog.

That women has my sympathy.

  • 12.26.2012 9:44 AM PDT


Posted by: shadowknight566
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I am all for guns and like my co-worker said when I told him about it, it's people like that guy that make responsible gun owners look like complete trash.

  • 12.26.2012 9:46 AM PDT

Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Methew
Posted by: What Is This1
It is still on his property for all he knew it could have been wild

Pretty sure a wild dog wouldn't look like a well groomed chocolate lab playing in the snow.

And if IRC the owner came out of his house to shoot the dog. The dog didn't run up to him while he was outside. There was no immediate threat, no immediate danger. The appropriate response if someone's dog is playing in your yard and you don't want them to is to ask the owner to remove the dog from your yard and control the animal better.

He completely ignored any of the reasonable options for handling the situation and used one that is so bat-blam!- crazy and insane that it makes me wonder how he got that gun permit for that shotgun in the first place.

You assumed he knew the owner when the fact is she was out of town. The most appropriate response would be to call animal control to deal with it even then animal control can be very lazy in which case some people feel it is necessary to take the law into their own hands. Considering it is his property he is within his rights to do so. As for using a firearm in residential areas I do think that was negligence on his part for the safety of others.

For -blam!-s sake.

Only dicks and people who have nothing better to do with their sorry ass pathetic lives shoot a dog because "he was in my property".

The stupid -blam!- came out of his house to kill the dog. He wasn't threatened by it in any -blam!- way. The guy is a dick.

  • 12.26.2012 9:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: What Is This1
You assumed he knew the owner when the fact is she was out of town. The most appropriate response would be to call animal control to deal with it even then animal control can be very lazy in which case some people feel it is necessary to take the law into their own hands. Considering it is his property he is within his rights to do so. As for using a firearm in residential areas I do think that was negligence on his part for the safety of others.


No, he was not within his rights to do so. In Iowa, you cannot shoot a dog on your property unless the your life is threatened by the dog, or if the dog is rabid. It's the law.

The owner clearly stated he shot the dog because "he didn't want the dog playing on his property." He did NOT state that the dog was threatening him, nor was the dog rabid. Therefore, he was outside of his rights by shooting the dog.

This lady could sue this man and win very, very easily.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 9:47 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 9:46 AM PDT

I am assuming direct control.

If someone shot my dog, there would be hell to pay. I mean, I own a lab, they're cute and fluffy and ain't hurt nobody. It's a little dog for crying out loud! -blam!- deserves to suffer for that.

You don't kill dogs.

  • 12.26.2012 9:46 AM PDT


Posted by: LolWutBBQ
So you think it'd be fine to shoot a chihuahua? Because according to you size doesn't matter. And yeah the owner is responsible to look after the dog, but if all it was doing was playing in the snow then the owner shouldn't have to expect some -blam!-head to come out guns blazing. Any reasonable person who had a problem could have just said "Please take your dog off my lawn."

I wouldn't have an issue doing so if I felt threatened by the dog. If anything I would have called animal control or informed the owner if I knew who the owner was.

  • 12.26.2012 9:48 AM PDT