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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Which is why I am curious as to the layout and density of the town where this happened.

In a city or any typical suburb, this wouldn't be acceptable. Out of town, out into a more rural area? I wouldn't use a shotgun for keeping animals off of my property (a fence is more reliable and effective), but it is more common and while a huge blow for the dog owner, if this was out in "farm country", then strange animals near your house are typically strays and/or feral and shooting them is not incredibly unusual.

Marne, Iowa population 120. Yeah, this is farm country.

Here's a map. If this neighbor was "in town" (all 5 streets of it) then there is something else (some sort of bad blood or small town feud) going on here and the woman should have known to keep her dog off of "that guy's" lawn.
I don't know about the area in general, but in the video, the houses were much closer than I expected. Looked like less than acre lots.

  • 12.26.2012 9:48 AM PDT


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So you think it'd be fine to shoot a chihuahua? Because according to you size doesn't matter. And yeah the owner is responsible to look after the dog, but if all it was doing was playing in the snow then the owner shouldn't have to expect some -blam!-head to come out guns blazing. Any reasonable person who had a problem could have just said "Please take your dog off my lawn."

I wouldn't have an issue doing so if I felt threatened by the dog. If anything I would have called animal control or informed the owner if I knew who the owner was.
But this guy WASN'T threatened by the dog... He was in his house then came out just so he could shoot it.

  • 12.26.2012 9:50 AM PDT


Posted by: CharlesBrown33
For -blam!-s sake.

Only dicks and people who have nothing better to do with their sorry ass pathetic lives shoot a dog because "he was in my property".

The stupid -blam!- came out of his house to kill the dog. He wasn't threatened by it in any -blam!- way. The guy is a dick.

Considering how one sided the story is you can't really make that assumption. For all you know this could have been an ongoing thing, but you only hear her side of the story.

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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
This lady could sue this man and win very, very easily.

While the rest of your post might be true, sadly it may be the case if she did win there wouldn't be much to garner.

While each state varies and I'm too lazy to look up Iowa law, in a lot of states you can't sue for emotional distress over negligent loss of a pet. The pet is considered "property" in every state I know of, so you'd only be reimbursed the cost of replacement - $300 or whatever from a breeder.

I don't think a couple hundred dollar win for a lawsuit would help how she feels very much.

  • 12.26.2012 9:50 AM PDT


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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Which is why I am curious as to the layout and density of the town where this happened.

In a city or any typical suburb, this wouldn't be acceptable. Out of town, out into a more rural area? I wouldn't use a shotgun for keeping animals off of my property (a fence is more reliable and effective), but it is more common and while a huge blow for the dog owner, if this was out in "farm country", then strange animals near your house are typically strays and/or feral and shooting them is not incredibly unusual.

Marne, Iowa population 120. Yeah, this is farm country.

Here's a map. If this neighbor was "in town" (all 5 streets of it) then there is something else (some sort of bad blood or small town feud) going on here and the woman should have known to keep her dog off of "that guy's" lawn.
I don't know about the area in general, but in the video, the houses were much closer than I expected. Looked like less than acre lots.


Yeah it might be a small town but it is fairly dense where neighbors are within usual distance of one another like a normal sized town.

  • 12.26.2012 9:50 AM PDT

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  • 12.26.2012 9:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: CharlesBrown33
For -blam!-s sake.

Only dicks and people who have nothing better to do with their sorry ass pathetic lives shoot a dog because "he was in my property".

The stupid -blam!- came out of his house to kill the dog. He wasn't threatened by it in any -blam!- way. The guy is a dick.

Considering how one sided the story is you can't really make that assumption. For all you know this could have been an ongoing thing, but you only hear her side of the story.

Yeah, mainly because the guy is not only a dick, but a complete coward who doesn't want to show his stupid face because he's scared of getting shot himself. -blam!-

  • 12.26.2012 9:52 AM PDT


Posted by: Crazy LlamaX
We should shoot and kill him with a shotgun.
Laser eyes, maybe?

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Posted by: What Is This1
For all you know this could have been an ongoing thing, but you only hear her side of the story.

Story says the owner was visiting friends in Iowa - so not really a possibility of an ongoing thing. She wasn't from there.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 9:55 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 9:53 AM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
No, he was not within his rights to do so. In Iowa, you cannot shoot a dog on your property unless the your life is threatened by the dog, or if the dog is rabid. It's the law.

The owner clearly stated he shot the dog because "he didn't want the dog playing on his property." He did NOT state that the dog was threatening him, nor was the dog rabid. Therefore, he was outside of his rights by shooting the dog.

This lady could sue this man and win very, very easily.

Depending on the state laws vary. Considering was only ticketed for using a firearm in town then it is most likely not against the law or at least the officer(s) deemed a ticket to be the most appropriate from of punishment. As I said before the story is one-sided and this could have been an ongoing issue in which case he finally decided to kill the dog.

  • 12.26.2012 9:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Crazy LlamaX
We should shoot and kill him with a shotgun.


I really hope that is sarcasm.

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Which is why I am curious as to the layout and density of the town where this happened.

In a city or any typical suburb, this wouldn't be acceptable. Out of town, out into a more rural area? I wouldn't use a shotgun for keeping animals off of my property (a fence is more reliable and effective), but it is more common and while a huge blow for the dog owner, if this was out in "farm country", then strange animals near your house are typically strays and/or feral and shooting them is not incredibly unusual.

Marne, Iowa population 120. Yeah, this is farm country.

Here's a map. If this neighbor was "in town" (all 5 streets of it) then there is something else (some sort of bad blood or small town feud) going on here and the woman should have known to keep her dog off of "that guy's" lawn.
I don't know about the area in general, but in the video, the houses were much closer than I expected. Looked like less than acre lots.

I didn't watch the vid, only read the very short article. I'm more text-based, call me old-fashioned.

If the vid shows/showed the scene, then by all means, that is important and relevant. But in my hypothetical of this being farm country and the dog really was "way beyond fetch range", then a farmer shooting a strange animal on their land is not really that far "out there".

But if this was where the houses are close together? Yeah, unacceptable, but there still is more to this than meets the eye. In this town there are 37 families? If the neighbor is either a nut or had/has a grudge with the woman's family... she knew (or her family that she was visiting) knew about it.

There is more to this than a simple "crazy dude with gun massacres friendly dog for no reason".

  • 12.26.2012 9:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
This lady could sue this man and win very, very easily.

While the rest of your post might be true, sadly it may be the case if she did win there wouldn't be much to garner.

While each state varies and I'm too lazy to look up Iowa law, in a lot of states you can't sue for emotional distress over negligent loss of a pet. The pet is considered "property" in every state I know of, so you'd only be reimbursed the cost of replacement - $300 or whatever from a breeder.

I don't think a couple hundred dollar win for a lawsuit would help how she feels very much.


That's true, the killing of the dog wouldn't fetch much.

Perhaps she could also sue for reckless endangerment and animal cruelty.

  • 12.26.2012 9:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Darkm0d
I was attacked by three large dog's when I was a kid, so my opinions are a bit more "realistic" I suppose.

I would use the term biased.

  • 12.26.2012 9:55 AM PDT


Posted by: CharlesBrown33
Yeah, mainly because the guy is not only a dick, but a complete coward who doesn't want to show his stupid face because he's scared of getting shot himself. -blam!-

Why would he have to show his face? There are a lot of people that don't want to be questioned by news organizations especially when it isn't their job to question a person's motives. That is what police are for and considering how the police already took care of it then this really shouldn't be news. Really the only reason this is news is because the news station knew they could get more views out of a topic like this.

  • 12.26.2012 9:56 AM PDT


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Posted by: What Is This1
For all you know this could have been an ongoing thing, but you only hear her side of the story.

Story says the owner was visiting friends in Iowa - so not really a possibility of an ongoing thing. She wasn't from there.


So chances are, He didnt recognize the dog.

  • 12.26.2012 9:57 AM PDT

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  • 12.26.2012 9:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
animal cruelty.


I doubt it. It was more a quick kill of anger and less of torture for enjoyment.

  • 12.26.2012 9:57 AM PDT


Posted by: A Good Troll
Story says the owner was visiting friends in Iowa - so not really a possibility of an ongoing thing. She wasn't from there.

True, but her friend also has a dog which could have been on his property multiple times in the past.

  • 12.26.2012 9:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
animal cruelty.


I doubt it. It was more a quick kill of anger and less of torture for enjoyment.


People who shoot and kill dogs get charged with animal cruelty all the time.

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Posted by: What Is This1
That is what police are for and considering how the police already took care of it then this really shouldn't be news.

This is a small town. Growing up in a small town (way larger than this one, but still small), there is going to be favoritism amongst local police force.

The point of the media is to call into question situations where things don't seem right. This is one of those situations.

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Lol, trigger happy Americans.

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Story says the owner was visiting friends in Iowa - so not really a possibility of an ongoing thing. She wasn't from there.

True, but her friend also has a dog which could have been on his property multiple times in the past.

And that justifies shooting the animal?

Rhetorical question: It doesn't.

If there's an on going problem you take it step by step through appropriate channels to have the conflict resolved. Dog gets in your yard, talk to the owner, dog still gets in your yard, if owner refuses to comply, talk to the city, etc.

You don't jump straight to shooting the animal. Hell shooting the animal isn't even on the table unless the animal was threatening the guy.

  • 12.26.2012 10:01 AM PDT


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Lol, trigger happy Americans.


LOL jealous clowns from lesser countries

  • 12.26.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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I don't think he did anything wrong.

If you take emotions out of it, it just becomes the same as if a strange person is trespassing.

Article is extremely biased also.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 10:05 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 10:02 AM PDT