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Subject: No flaming please: Bane and Talia were awful villains
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Posted by: annoyinginge
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Batman threads?

My finest moment.

10/10, I have to say.


no u

  • 12.26.2012 1:56 PM PDT

Wake me, when you need me.


Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Not to mention that Ras' goal was fulfilled after TDK when the police ran out the mob and basically eliminated the Gotham underworld. So Talia was just redundant and unnecessary. Nothing they did make sense, and it's annoying how lazy the plot was.

Also, nuclear reactors cannot turn into nuclear bombs.

Not to forget that this is a super-hero movie where Batman exist and as grounded and realistic as the movie tries to be, it is always a movie first.

People who try to compare it to reality and make points that is inconsistent with reality therefore= bad movie, just do not get it. That it's done with entertainment purposes in mind not a live re-enactment done with scientific scale to please the nerdy no-fun critics who like to compare realistic accuracy.

It's ultimately people who can't suspend themselves in a fictional world and immense themselves in any fictional story that end of hating this movie because it does not fit real-world rhetoric.

If you just sit back and enjoy it for what it is. A Super-Hero Movie. You might actually just enjoy it if you're willing to let go of the nit-pick.

If you don't like it that's fine. But making one-sided comments on elements that don't conform with how you would like it are just empty complaints that don't achieve anything but annoying people who do like the movie. But if you want to let it out fine. But at least have debatable points otherwise theres no discussion value.
The thread should've ended right here.

  • 12.26.2012 2:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: A Citizen

Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Not to mention that Ras' goal was fulfilled after TDK when the police ran out the mob and basically eliminated the Gotham underworld. So Talia was just redundant and unnecessary. Nothing they did make sense, and it's annoying how lazy the plot was.

Also, nuclear reactors cannot turn into nuclear bombs.

Not to forget that this is a super-hero movie where Batman exist and as grounded and realistic as the movie tries to be, it is always a movie first.

People who try to compare it to reality and make points that is inconsistent with reality therefore= bad movie, just do not get it. That it's done with entertainment purposes in mind not a live re-enactment done with scientific scale to please the nerdy no-fun critics who like to compare realistic accuracy.

It's ultimately people who can't suspend themselves in a fictional world and immense themselves in any fictional story that end of hating this movie because it does not fit real-world rhetoric.

If you just sit back and enjoy it for what it is. A Super-Hero Movie. You might actually just enjoy it if you're willing to let go of the nit-pick.

If you don't like it that's fine. But making one-sided comments on elements that don't conform with how you would like it are just empty complaints that don't achieve anything but annoying people who do like the movie. But if you want to let it out fine. But at least have debatable points otherwise theres no discussion value.
The thread should've ended right here.


But none of that has anything to do with character motivations or unintelligible plot

  • 12.26.2012 2:34 PM PDT

On the Left

Godshatter: I can go all the way with someone without being attracted to them.
CamCamm: How does that work?
Godshatter: I'm easily aroused by anything that moves. It's a curse.
Brain says 'No, that's ugly', body says 'ugly is fine with me'.

lol, If we were to go with your "Why didn't they do this?!" The movie would have been over in the first 20minutes. There would have been no movie.

Of course you're just trying to troll, because, what are movies for? O yea. Entertainment! I might have taken a nibble off the bait, but its kay. Nothing to do. Ghost town here at work.

  • 12.26.2012 2:43 PM PDT


Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Not to mention that Ras' goal was fulfilled after TDK when the police ran out the mob and basically eliminated the Gotham underworld. So Talia was just redundant and unnecessary. Nothing they did make sense, and it's annoying how lazy the plot was.

Also, nuclear reactors cannot turn into nuclear bombs.

Not to forget that this is a super-hero movie where Batman exist and as grounded and realistic as the movie tries to be, it is always a movie first.

People who try to compare it to reality and make points that is inconsistent with reality therefore= bad movie, just do not get it. That it's done with entertainment purposes in mind not a live re-enactment done with scientific scale to please the nerdy no-fun critics who like to compare realistic accuracy.

It's ultimately people who can't suspend themselves in a fictional world and immense themselves in any fictional story that end of hating this movie because it does not fit real-world rhetoric.

If you just sit back and enjoy it for what it is. A Super-Hero Movie. You might actually just enjoy it if you're willing to let go of the nit-pick.

If you don't like it that's fine. But making one-sided comments on elements that don't conform with how you would like it are just empty complaints that don't achieve anything but annoying people who do like the movie. But if you want to let it out fine. But at least have debatable points otherwise theres no discussion value.



this....


people don't complain about Lord of the Rings.




The eagles that saved Frodo and Sam at the end could have been easily utilized to fly Frodo into Mordoor, and drop the ring in the volcano.




But realism isn't the point of "Fiction".

It's about a story, and stories are about characters and how the characters deal with problems generated by the antagonist.






[Edited on 12.26.2012 3:01 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 3:00 PM PDT

Stop banning me please.

The OP has a good point.

  • 12.26.2012 3:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Cheesusslice

Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Not to mention that Ras' goal was fulfilled after TDK when the police ran out the mob and basically eliminated the Gotham underworld. So Talia was just redundant and unnecessary. Nothing they did make sense, and it's annoying how lazy the plot was.

Also, nuclear reactors cannot turn into nuclear bombs.

Not to forget that this is a super-hero movie where Batman exist and as grounded and realistic as the movie tries to be, it is always a movie first.

People who try to compare it to reality and make points that is inconsistent with reality therefore= bad movie, just do not get it. That it's done with entertainment purposes in mind not a live re-enactment done with scientific scale to please the nerdy no-fun critics who like to compare realistic accuracy.

It's ultimately people who can't suspend themselves in a fictional world and immense themselves in any fictional story that end of hating this movie because it does not fit real-world rhetoric.

If you just sit back and enjoy it for what it is. A Super-Hero Movie. You might actually just enjoy it if you're willing to let go of the nit-pick.

If you don't like it that's fine. But making one-sided comments on elements that don't conform with how you would like it are just empty complaints that don't achieve anything but annoying people who do like the movie. But if you want to let it out fine. But at least have debatable points otherwise theres no discussion value.



this....


people don't complain about Lord of the Rings.




The eagles that saved Frodo and Sam at the end could have been easily utilized to fly Frodo into Mordoor, and drop the ring in the volcano.




But realism isn't the point of "Fiction".

It's about a story, and stories are about characters and how the characters deal with problems generated by the antagonist.







I also felt that Talia wanted to avenge her father's death by completing his work, even if the rationalizations she makes don't make sense. Insanity doesn't need a reason, but it may have a goal. Besides, even without that, Bane wanted to destroy Gotham because, despite there no longer being street crime, the poor and helpless were run into the ground by the superior rich, comparitively. It was about taking back what belonged to them, the poor; and with that push, Gotham descended to chaos. That Gotham can so easily fall I feel was also part of Bane's reason for wanting to destroy Gotham, because it was a time bomb.

Ultimately though the point is that Batman needed to face his past.

  • 12.26.2012 3:15 PM PDT

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