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Subject: "Successful" is a stupid word

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Posted by: Garem
There's the idea of personal success, and then the BS success that society equates with wealth. Everyone is successful in the BS way. Only some are in the personal way.

BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

Either success is defined by accomplishing one's goals, or success is being human. You have claimed both to be true.


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So, all human beings are successful?

Yes. We're all equal on a social level.

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Posted by: Garem
The homeless man may have set out to be happy. And if he is, he is successful.
But what if he isn't happy?

Then he may not be personally successful. That doesn't mean that others can look at him and say, "He's poor. That means he's unsuccessful."

You need to pick a definition and stick with it.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 6:11 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 6:10 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
THERE ARE TWO FORMS. ONE IS LEGIT. THE OTHER ISN'T.

WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND

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  • 12.26.2012 6:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
THERE ARE TWO FORMS. ONE IS LEGIT. THE OTHER ISN'T.

WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND

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Which one isn't "legit"? The first? Accomplishing your goals doesn't make you successful?

  • 12.26.2012 6:13 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
THERE ARE TWO FORMS. ONE IS LEGIT. THE OTHER ISN'T.

WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND

CAPS LOCK

Which one isn't "legit"? The first? Accomplishing your goals doesn't make you successful?

Obviously, the BS one isn't legit. The personal success one is.

  • 12.26.2012 6:14 PM PDT

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  • 12.26.2012 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
THERE ARE TWO FORMS. ONE IS LEGIT. THE OTHER ISN'T.

WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND

CAPS LOCK

Which one isn't "legit"? The first? Accomplishing your goals doesn't make you successful?

Obviously, the BS one isn't legit. The personal success one is.

So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

  • 12.26.2012 6:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
THERE ARE TWO FORMS. ONE IS LEGIT. THE OTHER ISN'T.

WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND

CAPS LOCK

Which one isn't "legit"? The first? Accomplishing your goals doesn't make you successful?
Apparently so, to him at least.

  • 12.26.2012 6:15 PM PDT

I think we can all agree that "successful" is a great word.

  • 12.26.2012 6:15 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.

The real, personal success definition is different. You see?

  • 12.26.2012 6:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.

The real, personal success definition is different. You see?



Isn't that more the use of the word rather than its meaning?

  • 12.26.2012 6:17 PM PDT

OP Is butthurt because he's not successful.

  • 12.26.2012 6:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.
I disagree that humans have infinite worth. Some people are more important than others.

The real, personal success definition is different. You see?Yes, I see that. But my point is that you said that the only prerequisite for being successful is being a human being. Later, you said that not accomplishing your personal goals could make you unsuccessful.

These are conflicting statements.

  • 12.26.2012 6:19 PM PDT

Differences in ability, education, training, skills

Some people are worth more than others to many entities.

[Edited on 12.26.2012 6:21 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2012 6:21 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.
I disagree that humans have infinite worth. Some people are more important than others.

The real, personal success definition is different. You see?Yes, I see that. But my point is that you said that the only prerequisite for being successful is being a human being. Later, you said that not accomplishing your personal goals could make you unsuccessful.

These are conflicting statements.
We were talking about the BS definition, so I was saying that in that context.

  • 12.26.2012 6:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
[quote]Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.
I disagree that humans have infinite worth. Some people are more important than others.[quote]

This is true.
Education, training, innate ability all differ between people and some people are more productive and are worth more than others.

No. Productivity does not equal worth. We are all socially and worthily equal.

  • 12.26.2012 6:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
[quote]Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.
I disagree that humans have infinite worth. Some people are more important than others.[quote]

This is true.
Education, training, innate ability all differ between people and some people are more productive and are worth more than others.

No. Productivity does not equal worth. We are all socially and worthily equal.
So, a billionaire who donates tons of money to organizations and needy causes is just as important as your weed dealer?

  • 12.26.2012 6:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: TheBrandingIron

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
[quote]Posted by: MadMax888
So then your claim that all humans are successful is not correct?

Okay, the BS definition is that only humans with some kind of worth are successful. All humans have infinite worth. All humans are successful, via the BS definition.
I disagree that humans have infinite worth. Some people are more important than others.[quote]

This is true.
Education, training, innate ability all differ between people and some people are more productive and are worth more than others.

No. Productivity does not equal worth. We are all socially and worthily equal.


Depends on how is making the valuations.

  • 12.26.2012 6:24 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
So, a billionaire who donates tons of money to organizations and needy causes is just as important as your weed dealer?

Yes. They're both humans, even if one is richer.

  • 12.26.2012 6:24 PM PDT

Are we equal in dignity and human rights. Yes.

But not all people are equally valuable.

  • 12.26.2012 6:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So, a billionaire who donates tons of money to organizations and needy causes is just as important as your weed dealer?

Yes. They're both humans, even if one is richer.
Indeed they are both humans and both have the same rights under the law, but the fact remains that the billionaire is doing more good for society than the drug dealer.

  • 12.26.2012 6:25 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So, a billionaire who donates tons of money to organizations and needy causes is just as important as your weed dealer?

Yes. They're both humans, even if one is richer.
Indeed they are both humans and both have the same rights under the law, but the fact remains that the billionaire is doing more good for society than the drug dealer.

First off, weed isn't a drug. It's an herb.

Secondly, you may be right about the philanthropist helping out others more. But that doesn't mean that people should look down on the weed dealer. And it doesn't mean that the dealer is unsuccessful.

  • 12.26.2012 6:27 PM PDT

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This thread has been a huge success.

  • 12.26.2012 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
First off, weed isn't a drug. It's an herb.
Herbs don't have an affect on your body or mental state.

  • 12.26.2012 6:35 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
Posted by: Garem
First off, weed isn't a drug. It's an herb.
Herbs don't have an affect on your body or mental state.

They most certainly can.

  • 12.26.2012 6:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
First off, weed isn't a drug. It's an herb.
Herbs don't have an effect on your body or mental state.

They most certainly can.
Please enlighten me as to which herbs [not drugs] have an effect on your mental state.

  • 12.26.2012 6:38 PM PDT