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Life forms between ape and man should still live if they were genetically superior to monkeys. First of all, this is a nonsensical assertion. There are no "life forms between ape and man" because man is an ape. You are misunderstanding how evolution works.
Apes still live, but they should have died off according to evolution, as they were the least fit race to survive.Why do you assert that they were the least fit race? Any race that survived is, by definition, evolutionarily fit.
Though the chance for genetic mutation to occur is small, the chance for a good mutation is incredibly small. The chance that a boy is born with a third arm is incredibly tiny. How would he find a fit candidate to reproduce with if he is the only one of his species to have a third arm. It is impossible for his gene to be carried on.This, too, is nonsensical. It is true that the odds of mutation in general (and beneficial mutation in particular) are small, but over geological scales of time, unlikely things tend to happen quite frequently. I'm not sure why you think that someone having a third arm would render them incapable of interbreeding, but your assumption that evolution and speciation are things that happen to individuals and within single generations are both incorrect. Speciation takes many generations worth of cumulative genetic change, usually with non-genetic reproductive barriers between different populations of the same species.
For the first argument I consider your feedback inadequate.
You state that man is ape however evolutionary supporters also state that ape became another species before becoming man. Ape did not just suddenly become man, despite how you define man to be ape. Apes underwent evolution into many intermediate species before becoming man. These evolutionary advances would have taken so many years to occur that if a race that evolved was not fit to survive, it would not have had the time to reproduce to allow evolution. Any intermediate species which had to occur would need to still be alive today if evolution occured.
Any race that is required to evolve cannot be fit to survive. Survival of the fittest would not allow apes to survive and only man would exist. Your counterargument is flawed because it is based on your belief that evolution is true.
Your third counter-argument is better thought out but still invalid. You state that it takes generations of breeding with the original species to produce a difference within a race so that the mutation will either completely change the species, so that all apes must become man, or that the mutated species must always be capable of reproducing with the original species. By your logic evolution cannot occur over barriers over barriers of reproduction, so if man were descended from ape, we should be able to still breed with them.
Furthermore, the possibilities for a single race to undergo a single mutation is small but nowhere near as small as the chance that several members of that species all undergo the same mutation and are capable of breeding with each other.I find it odd that you have so many issues with his arguments, yet the theory of evolution has no scientific competition.