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Subject: Should there be lots of blood and gore in halo 3?
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Its the 360 and it will add more realsim to the game. Plus we decided not to have exploding body parts or falling body parts.

  • 07.06.2006 3:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
Its the 360 and it will add more realsim to the game. Plus we decided not to have exploding body parts or falling body parts.


Is that what you and the rest of the development team decided?

Again, I didn't say I'm against more detailed battle damage on the character models, but I think you should just consider what level of detail is worth what level of resource sacrifice.

Besides, don't act like the 360 is an all powerful supercomputer, I mean, it has trouble running 1st generation games...

  • 07.06.2006 3:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
Its the 360 and it will add more realsim to the game. Plus we decided not to have exploding body parts or falling body parts.


Is that what you and the rest of the development team decided?

Again, I didn't say I'm against more detailed battle damage on the character models, but I think you should just consider what level of detail is worth what level of resource sacrifice.

Besides, don't act like the 360 is an all powerful supercomputer, I mean, it has trouble running 1st generation games...

You're retarded, that's because of the BC code, completely unrelated to the 360's hardware.

  • 07.06.2006 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: anatol
Posted by: whiteultraelite8
Its the 360 and it will add more realsim to the game. Plus we decided not to have exploding body parts or falling body parts.


Is that what you and the rest of the development team decided?

Again, I didn't say I'm against more detailed battle damage on the character models, but I think you should just consider what level of detail is worth what level of resource sacrifice.

Besides, don't act like the 360 is an all powerful supercomputer, I mean, it has trouble running 1st generation games...

You're retarded, that's because of the BC code, completely unrelated to the 360's hardware.


1st generation 360 games friend. Think before you call others retarded...

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What games could it not run? If you had an operational 360, everything worked perfectly, even Oblivion, so I think it's just yours.

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Posted by: Iridorin
What games could it not run? If you had an operational 360, everything worked perfectly, even Oblivion, so I think it's just yours.


I never said it couldn't run games. And, it's not just mine. There are performance issues with Oblivion, nothing terribly significant, but it does have frame rate and clipping problems. This could be because it wasn't developed solely for the 360, so perhaps exclusives will perform better, I don't know. Also, there are some minor issues with Top Spin 2. Again, nothing serious, but it's noticeable. I've heard probllems with other games, though haven't experienced them first hand, so don't care to comment.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 360 is a great machine, but it's not omnipotent and infinitely capable.

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Posted by: anatol
Posted by: whiteultraelite8
Its the 360 and it will add more realsim to the game. Plus we decided not to have exploding body parts or falling body parts.


Is that what you and the rest of the development team decided?

Again, I didn't say I'm against more detailed battle damage on the character models, but I think you should just consider what level of detail is worth what level of resource sacrifice.

Besides, don't act like the 360 is an all powerful supercomputer, I mean, it has trouble running 1st generation games...

Well thats because they never intended to really make the 360 backward compatible. Also when I meant we decided there will be no falling body parts and exploding parts that was the fans in this topic who decided it.
Plus with 6 processors I think we can have realism and I want there to be holes in the armor to justify the blood coming out of the person. Furthermore, with bullet holes in the armor and plasma burns and cuts on the player it gives it realism. At the same time I am not saying go over board with the blood and gore. Just saying have some gore and blood to add the realism.

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You know what? I'm not interested in spoiling anybody's fun. Sorry I commented in this topic. Enjoy your conversation...

  • 07.06.2006 3:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Chomskyite
If there was more gore it would just be another dimension to the visual look and atmosphere of the game; probably more in Campaign than multiplayer. As long as it wasn't totally over-the-top Evil Dead style madness I don't see an issue.

More gore is fine.... just fine.

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if a rocket were to blow you up in multiplayer, and your body blew into a bunch of mangled pieces, which piece would your death/pre-respawn camara follow? thats a question i want answered. bring on the gore halo 3!!(but not too much. it doesnt need to make you hurl. just add to the awesome realism that is war.)

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I think Halo2 had a good amount of blood. If you sniped someone while they were infront of an object blood would spray onto it.

or you can maul someone with the 50cal and it leaves a big mark...

Maybe a bit more detailed instead of red colouring though?

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What there needs to be is damage on the armor with blood coming out but not a lot of it and burn marks from plasma. For the elites though there should be cuts on them exposing there flesh but nothing disgusting though just lightly done.

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i love how gamers nowadays want a lot of blood and gore and realism in their shooters. i ask you this question: why?

the blood and gore in the halo series has been fine thus far. more blood and gore would only make the game seem more mindless. more blood and gore is unnecessary. you know what more blood and gore means? it means less people playing it. hell, I'd consider boycotting it just because i dont agree with the mindset of many developers today (boobs + blood/gore + street cred = good game?) I've been with halo since the beginning, and bungie even before that. it would break my heart to see bungie take the path that so many developers take and put in blood and gore just for the sake of blood and gore.

realism is overrated. i want what's fun for EVERYONE. can you guys live with the blood and gore we have now? of course you guys can. can some of us live with more gore? I'd prefer to have halo 3 have the same amount of gore. any increase in blood or gore made by bungie i would be fine with assuming there was a good reason.

It seems like to me that a lot of the younger gamers want more blood/gore/realism, and i'm not sure why....

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I think damaged armor would be cool, as you take more shots and stuff you're armor falls apart and marks up with scratches, pieces of your suit missing, especially in multiplayer.

  • 07.06.2006 4:17 PM PDT
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Yeah...how about no? I can't possibly wait to have chief intestines and elite mandibles raining down upon me after I launch a rocket...

  • 07.06.2006 4:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: FinalSonicX
i love how gamers nowadays want a lot of blood and gore and realism in their shooters. i ask you this question: why?

the blood and gore in the halo series has been fine thus far. more blood and gore would only make the game seem more mindless. more blood and gore is unnecessary. you know what more blood and gore means? it means less people playing it. hell, I'd consider boycotting it just because i dont agree with the mindset of many developers today (boobs + blood/gore + street cred = good game?) I've been with halo since the beginning, and bungie even before that. it would break my heart to see bungie take the path that so many developers take and put in blood and gore just for the sake of blood and gore.

realism is overrated. i want what's fun for EVERYONE. can you guys live with the blood and gore we have now? of course you guys can. can some of us live with more gore? I'd prefer to have halo 3 have the same amount of gore. any increase in blood or gore made by bungie i would be fine with assuming there was a good reason.

It seems like to me that a lot of the younger gamers want more blood/gore/realism, and i'm not sure why....

Dude why do you think they made the 360 in the first spot? To have realism because this the next generation. This is what people want. It's realism why else would people make the graphics more advanced so the games are more realistic. And I am not saying there should be tonnes of it. Just a little bit more cause this is a war and we need some realsim.

  • 07.06.2006 4:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: FelixMajor
I think damaged armor would be cool, as you take more shots and stuff you're armor falls apart and marks up with scratches, pieces of your suit missing, especially in multiplayer.


that sounds way cool and it isnt a head coming off and blood squirting towards the sky.

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The only thing I wouldn't mind seeing is a old rotting Sangheili corpse, with it's rib cags bursting out. The Flood can be as disturbing and gorey as they want, you can add bullets holes to armor, or blood from your enemy on to your amor, even when you step on a corpse bloody tracks can be made, but that is as far as it needs to go.

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You guys keep talking about the realism of war.
But you fail to understand some aspects of gore and realism.
A 50 Cal Sniper Rifle in real Life, Rips a person into Two Seperate Peices.
Rocket Launchers Destroy reinforced Armored TANKS.
You simply cannot have that kind of realistic gore.
Sure, John-117 stopped a rocket with his hands, but thats fiction in the First Book.

Plus how the the Mjolnir armor play into getting hit by rockets, grenades, or Large Caliber rifles?
A Spartans armor can't simple blow off. It would require a Large Plasma Bolt to melt it away.
Plus If you want more realism, then the Plasma Rifle would be overpowered. In the Books one bolt literally Melts into the armor through the shields.

Not to mention if you had a conflict with a rocket launcher, and you ended up exploding, What would happen to the peices. Would it be randomly scattered? would you be able to interact with the peices? How much damage would that deal to network performance?

I agree with the whole Accurate area damage thing you are talking about. Headshots and blood coming from a hole in the visor. Those would be great. Harsh on networking, but would be interesting if it could be done well.
But to have exploding bodies, Realistic or not, is just not really a part of the Halo universe. The only thing that comes close are the Flood. And thats because they are Zombies(Basicly). Thats the theme of the Flood though. thats how you can tell they are dead.

Honestly, If you want Gore, go play FEAR when it comes out for the X360.

PS. The X360 doesn't have Six Processors, it has 3x 3.2 GHZ Duel Core processors. Theres a Huge difference when it comes to performance, Heat, and Programming. Please double check your Facts before you post something that will make you look dumb. :)

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what do u mean trouble?they ran fine
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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
Its the 360 and it will add more realsim to the game. Plus we decided not to have exploding body parts or falling body parts.


Is that what you and the rest of the development team decided?

Again, I didn't say I'm against more detailed battle damage on the character models, but I think you should just consider what level of detail is worth what level of resource sacrifice.

Besides, don't act like the 360 is an all powerful supercomputer, I mean, it has trouble running 1st generation games...

You're retarded, that's because of the BC code, completely unrelated to the 360's hardware.


1st generation 360 games friend. Think before you call others retarded...

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The only thing I wouldn't mind seeing is a old rotting Sangheili corpse, with it's rib cags bursting out. The Flood can be as disturbing and gorey as they want, you can add bullets holes to armor, or blood from your enemy on to your amor, even when you step on a corpse bloody tracks can be made, but that is as far as it needs to go.

It was okay after the rib cage bursting out and before the leaving blood foot prints. Remember we cannot have to much gore just enough for there to be realsim but not over board. People won't like that because then it gets to gory. Footprints of blood could be good cause those who are invisible cannot get sneaky on us because we can then see foot prints. Plus judging by the graphics we saw in the halo 3 trailer I am guessing those who get active camo will be well hidden. And ppl could have a hard time finding them. The blood foot prints would let us see them. But like I said too GORY.

To SS Crow dual core means two chips on a single proccessor. I just forgot that and said 6 proccessors.

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we have the 360, hopefully, so that we can enhance gameplay. more processing and graphical power means more freedom to enhance AI, insert more enemies, enhance graphical effects, and basically enhance everything that makes games fun.

realism isnt always fun. i dont want spartans and elites and such to blow apart from rockets. i want the models to stick together and use whattever physics engine they use for bodies. otherwise all we will ever see in multiplayer will be chunks flying left and right, intestines spilling all over, etc.

i dont care what you do to the flood. make the flood as gorey and bloody as you want, and it adds to the experience. making grunts have their guts spill out from bullets detracts from the experience.

i dont know if you've noticed yet. but halo isnt exactly about WAR. never once did we actually see huge battles and horrifying images that we might see in war. sure, there's a war going on, but we dont exactly get to see it first hand in either of the halo games. it has always been about minor skirmishes focusing around very important objectives.

I just dont want halo 3 to turn into another quake. OMG LOL BLOODY GIBS FLYING THROUGH THE AIR. OMG BULLET RIPS HUGE HOLE IN STOMACH BLOOD AND GORE EVERYWHERE LOL. it seems to be a trend that the younger people want more blood because they think more blood and gore is cool, or "realism" is cool. i say, they can add as much blood and gore as they want to the flood. keep the gore for the covenant and marines the same way it has been for the last 2 games. maybe a little more could be added if bungie truly deemed it necessary.

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I think the 'reaslism' we want is in the actual setting, graphics, situations, and overall gameplay. Not just some overpowering, sickening gore scenes..

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well only for the flood like when you shoot its tenacles it would blow up and all its organs will blow out of it.but no mortal kombat vilonce

  • 07.06.2006 5:39 PM PDT