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Subject: when is united states empire dying?

Nahman Jayden, Eff bee eye. I herd that you're the origammy killah...

when you shave that hideous neckbeard

  • 12.29.2012 11:43 AM PDT

This is now my main account. My former account was xKingGhidorahx. I've been on this site since 2009.

You just had to add 'empire'

*Sigh*

  • 12.29.2012 11:44 AM PDT

Racist, I've seen you use better grammar so I know this is a joke. Anyways, ignore Garem, never take advice from a phony.

  • 12.29.2012 11:45 AM PDT

man i get an erection just lookin at my girl lol and i dnt hide it i mean she realy doesnt mind she actually likes it lol also it shoes you dont have ED problems (i think)

Truer words were never spoken

I don't get how it's an empire, but okay

  • 12.29.2012 11:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: ZiIch
Posted by: tedog
That's exactly why our monetary system is about to collapse, because we keep borrowing. (And the Fed keep making ghost bills)

Explain yourself. It sounds like you've watched a handful of Peter Schiff Youtube videos and think we need to hop on the gold standard again.



I can give you over 16.4 trillion reasons. Our debt is massive and impossible to pay back. It has increased exponentially and at the same time we constantly allow the Fed to pump in ghost money with quantitative easing. (They no longer print money, just add 0s onto bank accounts) This devalues every dollar and has interest attached. We can barely keep up with our interest payments alone, how can we ever expect to pay all of this back?

Just wait for the inflation to hit in two more years.

[Edited on 12.29.2012 11:48 AM PST]

  • 12.29.2012 11:47 AM PDT
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The U.S. isn't an empire, it's a hegemon.

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  • 12.29.2012 11:47 AM PDT

Door Kickers Inc.

I didn't know we were an imperialistic country.

  • 12.29.2012 11:47 AM PDT

Now; China.

  • 12.29.2012 11:49 AM PDT
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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.


Posted by: Sgt Mag1
I didn't know we were an imperialistic country.
Their logic:

"I think they are bad, and the Empire from Star Wars was bad. Therefore they are an Empire!"

  • 12.29.2012 11:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gruntzilla24

Posted by: Sgt Mag1
I didn't know we were an imperialistic country.
Their logic:

"I think they are bad, and the Empire from Star Wars was bad. Therefore they are an Empire!"
My god, that's brilliant.

  • 12.29.2012 11:49 AM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Mag1

Posted by: Gruntzilla24

Posted by: Sgt Mag1
I didn't know we were an imperialistic country.
Their logic:

"I think they are bad, and the Empire from Star Wars was bad. Therefore they are an Empire!"
My god, that's brilliant.


Seems legit...

  • 12.29.2012 11:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Binman59
It already is via debt etc. when the oil shortages inevitably come it will implode.
Do you actually know how much oil The usa is sitting on right now?

  • 12.29.2012 11:53 AM PDT

The US is a republic that seeks to spread its ideals through military force and propaganda. While it is nowhere near like Syria or Russia, it is not a perfect nation that is for the good of all. In fact no nation is, everyone looks out for themselves.

  • 12.29.2012 11:53 AM PDT

no you cant have my gamertag

Posted by: tedog
I can give you over 16.4 trillion reasons. Our debt is massive and impossible to pay back. It has increased exponentially and at the same time we constantly allow the Fed to pump in ghost money with quantitative easing. (They no longer print money, just add 0s onto bank accounts) This devalues every dollar and has interest attached. We can barely keep up with our interest payments alone, how can we ever expect to pay all of this back?

Just wait for the inflation to hit in two more years.

The numerical value of debt is irrelevant. People like you throw around big numbers and scary rhetoric like 'ghost money' to get a rise out of people.

Unfortunately, that poor level of argument is enough to convince a lot of sheep. If they only looked at the objective statements in your argument, they would see how full of -blam!- your claims are.

Our debt is not impossible to pay back. During WWII we had a higher debt/GDP ratio and we got it under control through growth. What we need is economic growth, which your prescriptions (I assume massive spending cuts) would make worse.

The dollar is not being devalued by QE. Inflation is at historically low levels.

We are not having trouble paying interest on our debt. Interest payments are a fraction of our overall government spending.

People like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff have been claiming inflation is coming for the last five years. It hasn't. It won't while we're still in a liquidity trap.

  • 12.29.2012 11:55 AM PDT

Soon the United States will join her former colonies once more and then the new British Empire shall rise from it's ashes ._.

  • 12.29.2012 11:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: MilitaryTheorist
The U.S. isn't an empire, it's a hegemon.

lrn2internationalrelations

The two are not mutually exclusive.

  • 12.29.2012 11:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: ZiIch
Posted by: tedog
I can give you over 16.4 trillion reasons. Our debt is massive and impossible to pay back. It has increased exponentially and at the same time we constantly allow the Fed to pump in ghost money with quantitative easing. (They no longer print money, just add 0s onto bank accounts) This devalues every dollar and has interest attached. We can barely keep up with our interest payments alone, how can we ever expect to pay all of this back?

Just wait for the inflation to hit in two more years.

The numerical value of debt is irrelevant. People like you throw around big numbers and scary rhetoric like 'ghost money' to get a rise out of people.

Unfortunately, that poor level of argument is enough to convince a lot of sheep. If they only looked at the objective statements in your argument, they would see how full of -blam!- your claims are.

Our debt is not impossible to pay back. During WWII we had a higher debt/GDP ratio and we got it under control through growth. What we need is economic growth, which your prescriptions (I assume massive spending cuts) would make worse.

The dollar is not being devalued by QE. Inflation is at historically low levels.

We are not having trouble paying interest on our debt. Interest payments are a fraction of our overall government spending.

People like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff have been claiming inflation is coming for the last five years. It hasn't. It won't while we're still in a liquidity trap.


Do you understand how much a trillion is? Most don't. And the number itself isn't my sole indicator, it's the exponential growth of our debt.

We are STILL paying off debts from WWII, and we only borrowed $100 million. Our interest on that alone is now worth far more.

Because we won't feel the inflation for another two years, obviously. We are already seeing inflation with gas and bread, though, actually. It will only get a lot worse once it actually impacts the market.

The government won't be able to sustain interest payments alone by 2015 if they continue how they are.


Going to see The Hobbit, I will return later.

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  • 12.29.2012 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: tedog
Do you understand how much a trillion is? Most don't. And the number itself isn't my sole indicator, it's the exponential growth of our debt.

Why does the numerical value matter?

Easy answer - it doesn't. It's the total relative value. If it were denominated in the Zimbabwean dollar, it would be even larger. If it were denominated in a currency in which 1 = the value of the US economy, it is tiny.

I don't care how large a trillion is. It's irrelevant to the conversation.

We are STILL paying off debts from WWII, and we only borrowed $100 million. Our interest on that alone is now worth far more.
You really have to make your argument on lies and empty rhetoric, don't you?

But again, the nominal value is irrelevant.

As a percentage of GDP, it was higher after WWII and it was managed in the years following.

Because we won't feel the inflation for another two years, obviously. We are already seeing inflation with gas and bread, though, actually. It will only get a lot worse once it actually impacts the market.
Gas prices have dropped 70 cents a gallon over the last few months. Are we experiencing deflation?

The obvious answer is no because goods like energy and food, which are hypersensitive to supply and demand shocks, should not be counted in measures of currency debasement.

Basic economics.

The government won't be able to sustain interest payments alone by 2015 if they continue how they are.
Another bold lie.


Going to see The Hobbit, I will return later.
No you won't. Those impaled on the pike of reality always manage to "forget" to check the threads.

  • 12.29.2012 12:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Ark Chaos
Didn't Iran's internet get isolated, or am I thinking of somewhere else?


I think that was North Korea, Not sure about middle eastern Country's though

  • 12.29.2012 1:03 PM PDT

When does this idiot get banned?

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