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  • 07.06.2006 3:02 PM PDT
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this has been discussed many times

but, i will say it's interesting (not your theory, just what spark said)

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  • 07.06.2006 3:05 PM PDT

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Either there is a time loop, courtesy the time-warping crystal that ends First strike about two weeks before Halo CE began..he could've gone back a few days before the PoA got there...


Or he is saying it in a general manner, meaning that all Forerunners at the time of the initial activation knew what Halos do..We are the Forerunners that created the rings, so he figured Chief would know..but obviously, we didn't remember enough stuff since we left the Ark..

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What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.

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I read a seriously in-depth topic about this a while back, and it mentioned time-travel and such. It was all pretty interesting. I saved the link somewhere, and if I find it, I'll post it.

  • 07.06.2006 3:11 PM PDT
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What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.


So then I guess its safe to say that hes stuck in the past...


Either that, or the MJOLINER armour MC has on in Halo 1 is crap compared to what the Forerunners used against the flood originally.

Also, what is that ship he is talking about?

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Posted by: Kilwan
What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.


i don't remember the 2nd thing, but i do remember the quote about him only have a class 3 armor when he should be using a class 12.

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Is there possibility that Forerunners "fired" the Halos, by using us, Reclaimers activating the Halos under Forerunner command.

So Forerunners died and Reclaimers that were with Forerunners while others had genetic code hidden inside and were secretly left on some backwater planet.

Could it be possible?

  • 07.06.2006 3:15 PM PDT
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I beleive I can explain both of those quotes.

When he says "Last time you asked, if it were my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your question my answer has not changed, we must activate the ring," he may just be refering to an unseen part of the game. For example they may not have directly teleported back to the control room after getting the index. May have sidetracked. Maybe 343 took Chief to get a couple sentinels because they got the index and they could've just talked about it and Cheif may have asked him then. May have just been an unseen part of the game.

As for "Why are you hesitating to do what he have already done?” It might not be in the litteral sense. It could be in the meaning that, Cheif took the index and brought it so close to activating Halo, and that 343 was confident Chief wasnt going to escape alive, that he was sure that Halo would be activated. So, in the mind of 343, it was already done and Cheif did his part.

Just trying to let you see all sides of what could be.

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What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.


i don't remember the 2nd thing, but i do remember the quote about him only have a class 3 armor when he should be using a class 12.


Play "The Library" again. Wear ear phones if you have to. I think its the 3rd level up he says about it.

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Either there is a time loop, courtesy the time-warping crystal that ends First strike about two weeks before Halo CE began..

Or he is saying it in a general manner, meaning that all Forerunners at the time of the initial activation knew what Halos do..We are the Forerunners that created the rings, so he figured Chief would know..but obviously, we didn't remember enough stuff since we left the Ark..


But he said that the forunners died.... maybe the ark kept some of them safe. And they didint want to becalled forunners becasue of what they did. They wanted to ferget about all that. So in a sense... They died.
People forget about things over time. They, at some point, would think up a new name for themselves..and over the thousands of years of passing the stories down..they would change greatly, slightly over each generation..

Eventually, they would decide to write it down, and that's how the bible came about in the Haloverse..Halo is based off of the bible..meaning some of it was forseeing the future, and some of it was stating what previously had happened as the Forerunners..and such..

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Posted by: Kilwan
What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.


i don't remember the 2nd thing, but i do remember the quote about him only have a class 3 armor when he should be using a class 12.


Play "The Library" again. Wear ear phones if you have to. I think its the 3rd level up he says about it.
We know that the only ship that the Flood took over nd were going to try to get to Earth in was the..Truth and Reconcilliation.

Could this mean that he says 'your ship' because he knows that the Elites were in our previous Covenant before the rings fired?

  • 07.06.2006 3:22 PM PDT

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What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.


i don't remember the 2nd thing, but i do remember the quote about him only have a class 3 armor when he should be using a class 12.


Play "The Library" again. Wear ear phones if you have to. I think its the 3rd level up he says about it.


yea, he does kind of mumble, or talk when your trying to kill something.

  • 07.06.2006 3:23 PM PDT

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When spark says "last time" he is refering to the last reclaimer ( the one who activated Halo the first time) I thought it was pretty obvious.

  • 07.06.2006 10:40 PM PDT
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I made this thred to discuss why 343 spark said what he said.

In halo1 when the chief went to use the halos to get rid of the flood and cortana stoped him. So blah blah blah skiping skiping. Ok now we get to the part ware spark says

“Why are you hesitating to do what he hack already done?”

See, this is what I don’t understand. He has done this before?


Yes, John had done that Before. He had already tried to activate Halo only a minute or so before 343 Guilty Spark says that. 343 is asking why he would not insert the index and activate Alpha Halo when he had done so just a few moments before.

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Posted by: Kilwan
What caught my attention about GS was what he said in the library

1) Your suit only rates as a Mk 3. Why have you not updated to the current Mk 12 model?

2) The flood have finished preparing your ship. The parasitic nature of the flood belies the floods intelligence.


He said atleast a Mk 12

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  • 07.06.2006 11:04 PM PDT
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ExoByte has a good point.

The Flood were trying to repair the Autumn as well. I don't know how it could be done, as the ship looks wrecked beyond repair although largely intact. The Flood walking towards it at the very end before it goes up implies(to me, at least), that the Flood were planning to use the Autumn.

As for 343 Guilty Spark. It could be possible that the last activator of Halo was someone who had a suit of armor very similar to the MJOLNIR. Whoever it was, he must've been consumed with guilt on what he's about to do. Or some sort of anomaly that will hopefully be explained. Maybe the MC is the one who activates Halo in the end. Could be foreshadowing.

Bizarre enough, 343 Guilty Spark also says "Please stop being human", if you should shoot at him. Or was it "inhuman"?

  • 07.06.2006 11:30 PM PDT
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It might have been inhumane...i dont remember, when you read hte book the flood is gives everything the monitor says in text, and it is the mk 12 suit.

Could it be that humans in the past had evolved higher than they were now, but hten the rings were activated and destroyed basically all of the human race, basically restarting them?

  • 07.06.2006 11:42 PM PDT
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Why do you put 'e' after so many words like Graveminde and explaine?

On a more helpful note, I think it could have something to do with the fact that 343 Guilty Spark is probably insane after being on Halo for over 101,000 years alone...lol

Seriously though, I think what he means is John was previously (earlier in the game) sure he had to activate the Halo but later he changed his mind once he found out what it really was, so maybe 343 is saying last time they met (in an earlier level/cutscene) John said he'd do it and then now he isn't sure.

JDMFseanP, could you POSSIBLY be referring to the Forerunners?

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