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Subject: How could we introduce spartans without confusing ppl?
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right

  • 07.10.2006 4:30 PM PDT
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you would THINK that if there were more spartans they would have been helping the chief by now.........

who the heck is cassandra? see its stuff like this that sux about added spartans. its too confusing

  • 07.10.2006 4:30 PM PDT
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Wait.....you said that the number of tombstones on Hang 'em High match up with the original number of Spartans, doesnt that mean they are all dead?

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what youre saying, methinks.

  • 07.10.2006 4:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: MissionHill
Wait.....you said that the number of tombstones on Hang 'em High match up with the original number of Spartans, doesnt that mean they are all dead?

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what youre saying, methinks.



exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 07.10.2006 4:32 PM PDT
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and think about the name, hang em high, maybe it like hang their tombs high for honer

  • 07.10.2006 4:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: MissionHill
Wait.....you said that the number of tombstones on Hang 'em High match up with the original number of Spartans, doesnt that mean they are all dead?

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what youre saying, methinks.
John is one of the original Spartans, so no. It does not mean this. It could mean that they will all be dead, come Halo 3..or it could mean that they are "dead" in a sense, because they were kindnapped, and turned into soulless killing machines?

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Posted by: altoids jedi
and think about the name, hang em high, maybe it like hang their tombs high for honer
Doesn't "Hang em High" refer to actually hanging a person, like how they used to do? I dono..

  • 07.10.2006 4:34 PM PDT
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the spartans i mean

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well isnt this all proof that maybe their dead?

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Posted by: altoids jedi
well isnt this all proof that maybe their dead?
If they are dead, there would be no Halo, or Halo 2 since John would be dead along with them. Take away him, and the numbers don't match up.

It could also refer to the copies of each child-turned-spartan before the augmentations began...Flash clones, that diead off within weeks, and recovered by Ackerson, I believe..

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  • 07.10.2006 4:37 PM PDT
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ok this came to me in the last five seconds so just bear with me.

MC is still on the ship with Truth talking to lord Hood.

Hood: chief im sending in backup to hlep you
MC:with all due respect sir i doubt any number of marines o helljumpers for that matter can hlep me right now.
Hood: who the hell said anything about Helljumpers?
you then see a pelican fly twords the ship and dock with it somehow and later you hear an explosion and a brute/jackal or something screming in the next room. the door opens to reveal Will Fred and Linda. end Cutscene and then some other stuff happens form there.

Needs more work but thats may not be the best way to introduce new spartans. People could get really confused. But thanks for ur ideas its intresting.

i dont really care as long as i get some spartans to screw around with
You want more Spartans? Go on LIVE.

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posted by mlg cheeewahwah:
John is one of the original Spartans, so no. It does not mean this. It could mean that they will all be dead, come Halo 3



may be he dies soon in halo 3 too?

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MLG, now you're contradicting yourself, are you saying that when you say, " all of the Spartans" you mean
"only about 90% of them"

You're not being very clear.

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Posted by: MissionHill
MLG, now you're contradicting yourself, are you saying that when you say, " all of the Spartans" you mean
"only about 90% of them"

You're not being very clear.
How so?

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this is confusin

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Oh............So you mean they made Hang 'em High specifically to count all of the dead Spartans, IN THE FIRST GAME, maybe you're right, you might be wrong, but do you think there will be a weekly update saying,


"Oh bye the way....If you guys had taken the time to notice our multiplayer map names, you would have seen the plot, because we're stupid, and decide to leave it to the hardcore to realize it."

Probably not methinks. I don't think they'll just do it like that.

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You're contradicting yourself by saying that all the Spartans are dead, but you don't really mean it, burt I missed what you said, and said against what you said in the, umm...........ouch.

I got lost. But i'll be back in a while, don't go anywhere.

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Posted by: MissionHill
Oh............So you mean they made Hang 'em High specifically to count all of the dead Spartans, IN THE FIRST GAME, maybe you're right, you might be wrong, but do you think there will be a weekly update saying,


"Oh bye the way....If you guys had taken the time to notice our multiplayer map names, you would have seen the plot, because we're stupid, and decide to leave it to the hardcore to realize it."

Probably not methinks. I don't think they'll just do it like that.
They sprinke eggs around everywhere foreshadowing different events to come. THE FIRST GAME follows the same story, because the Halo bible was already complete for the most part at that time, and it is still complete today.

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Yeah, I'm interested to hear more about the "Hang 'em High" tombstones as well. Is MC included? If he's not, then I think that could be foreshadowing all of their deaths- or perhaps it's just a symbolic level, since MC thinks that all of them are in fact dead.

And altoid jedi- please stop posting in this thread every ten seconds. It's bad forum manners, and is commonly known as "spam". Wait until someone replies to you, or what you've said, or you see something that is interesting and you think that you can contribute to the discussion. Don't just post every 10 seconds- I'm just warning you because you're liable to get banned for it if you don't chill out a bit.

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Posted by: MissionHill
You're contradicting yourself by saying that all the Spartans are dead, but you don't really mean it, burt I missed what you said, and said against what you said in the, umm...........ouch.

I got lost. But i'll be back in a while, don't go anywhere.
I said "Tombstones for everyone" will either mean that it's counting the Number of Spartans' clones that replaced the kindapped chiledren..

Or it will mean that it is foreshadowing that the last remaining Spartans (9) will all die by the time Halo 3 ends.

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Posted by: Pwnocchio
Yeah, I'm interested to hear more about the "Hang 'em High" tombstones as well. Is MC included? If he's not, then I think that could be foreshadowing all of their deaths- or perhaps it's just a symbolic level, since MC thinks that all of them are in fact dead.

And altoid jedi- please stop posting in this thread every ten seconds. It's bad forum manners, and is commonly known as "spam". Wait until someone replies to you, or what you've said, or you see something that is interesting and you think that you can contribute to the discussion. Don't just post every 10 seconds- I'm just warning you because you're liable to get banned for it if you don't chill out a bit.



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  • 07.10.2006 4:44 PM PDT
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becuz dis topic is bout how to introduce them we shouldnt be aurguin if they r alive but how to bring them into the game eve though they r prob dead

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but i agree with iceman assas1n (scroll up)

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  • 07.10.2006 4:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The number of tombstones in Hang Em High match up with the original number of Spartans..


That's not correct. The number of tombstones in Hang em High matches the number of Spartans at the end of FS that are KIA/MIA

Posted by: Eagle 117
There are 68 tombstones on the MP map Hang Em High. Of course, that number by itself isn’t interesting. However, when you subtract 68 from 75, which is the number of Spartan II’s (75 Spartans), then you get the number 7 ... that’s not the abnormal part. At the end of First Strike there are 7 Spartan II’s who aren’t listed as KIA/MIA, which would leave 68 of the original Spartan IIs dead or MIA (Spartans never die:), hence there being 68 tombstones! One can easily find that the Master Chief, Will, Linda, and Fred are alive at the end of First Strike, but that would only add up to 4 Spartans II's. However, when you add to this small group the 3 spartans who weren’t present for the PoA mission because they were engaged on fields of combat too distant to be easily recalled (p.240, TFoR) .Then one comes up with the number of Spartans in the Halo universe, which would be 7, that aren’t listed as MIA/KIA.


And here is a quote from Jamie Griesemer

Almost nothing in Halo 1 was random.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: MissionHill
You're contradicting yourself by saying that all the Spartans are dead, but you don't really mean it, burt I missed what you said, and said against what you said in the, umm...........ouch.

I got lost. But i'll be back in a while, don't go anywhere.
I said "Tombstones for everyone" will either mean that it's counting the Number of Spartans' clones that replaced the kindapped chiledren..

Or it will mean that it is foreshadowing that the last remaining Spartans (9) will all die by the time Halo 3 ends.
Or "Tombstones For Everyone," could mean a tombstone for everyone that dies in that level. Over speculation, not everything that Bungie has in their games has a deep meaning.

  • 07.10.2006 4:49 PM PDT