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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
MLG Cheewawa if youre gonna post those quotes that advocate the books going with the game, then please post the quotes that dispel the books going with the game. i know they exist cuz ive read them. youre holding out :-)
None of the quotes 'disspelled' the books. One or two said that some major elements were left out (and some left in) due to them being too confusing, once they had to cut out a few missions due to time constraints.

Also, one said that some things that couldn't really be explained (Like How Johnson escaped) wouldn't be brought into the game, because it would require lots of explaining for something that doesn't really need to be explained (It's Classified ;-))

The Spartans can be explained in about the same time, and they would have a much greater role.

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this is good stuff here

  • 07.10.2006 10:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: High Truth
I would settle if Sgt. Johnson just said:


Cheif, I found your friends.


What's funny is that I feel like most of the general gaming public out there would accept that, too. They'd be like "whatever" and would just keep playing.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
MLG Cheewawa if youre gonna post those quotes that advocate the books going with the game, then please post the quotes that dispel the books going with the game. i know they exist cuz ive read them. youre holding out :-)
None of the quotes 'disspelled' the books. One or two said that some major elements were left out (and some left in) due to them being too confusing, once they had to cut out a few missions due to time constraints.

Also, one said that some things that couldn't really be explained (Like How Johnson escaped) wouldn't be brought into the game, because it would require lots of explaining for something that doesn't really need to be explained (It's Classified ;-))

The Spartans can be explained in about the same time, and they would have a much greater role.


aight.

look i know we've been goin back and forth but id like to take the time now to say thanks for not once flaming me and keeping the discussion clean. this is the first time ive argued against a spartan supporter who didnt flare up and start throwing immature comments, and i commend you for that.

tho you bring some convincing evidence i still believe more spartans would ruin the game, but thats just me wanting to do this adventure with MC and MC alone. but theres one thing you spartan supporters have given me and thats: a new perspective. should the game come to a close and bungie decides to in fact drop the spartans on us, i wont be pissed cuz ill remember the discussions and come to accept it ( heaven forbid this ever happens LoL)
dont know why i went on that speech but for some reason it seemed necessary. thnx again for the good arguements. and that image of the guys you believe to be spartans entering the atmosphere is one SICK wallpaper !

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To me it's a no brainer, Bungie is run by geniuses when it comes this shyte and I could think of a hundred reasons how they could introduce the spartans for halo 3. Let's see, On the ark they come, Johnson saying your friends are here, in the middle of the mission Cortana in her messed up state could be crying about them, giving some back history, hood could bring them up, they could contact you. These are my bad ideas i'm not really thinking, cuz i'm not getting paid like Bungie employees.

But how about the second mission is just someone tells you "we need help on Earth, the covenant are attacking blah blah we need help Chief!" Fight a lil bit, then you get to your objective but everything is already dead. Then a little blue light appears on your screen with a pointer. Acknowledgement light!!! Then you notice Linda Fred and Will, maybe a few marines and cue cutscene with John doing his MC walk and all the spartans make the smile gesture (one finger touching middle of visor). Then a marine goes, "You guys know each other?"
Then maybe Hood or Cortana or even Johnson could say something like good to see you found your friends or somethin. i dunno thats my idea.

PS: I can think of some reasons why the spartans weren't in halo 2. The Spartans were rarely together because they were so efficient that they didnt need to be in large numbers. At the beginning of Halo 2 MC was at an award ceremony for his duty on Alpha Halo. The other spartans were not at halo so they didnt have business at Cairo. They were elsewhere and couldn't get to MC in time, probably busy elsewhere because we have to think of the Halo universe beyond the games, things happen other than what they show you.

pps: in the level Metropolis that one marine says "When i asked for back-up, i didn't expect them to send a Spartan!" Which hints at other spartans being busy, because usually people just say "Hey, its the Chief" not "OMG it's one of the spartans." Just to ponder...

EDIT: the humans at earth were not expecting an attack from the covenant so soon, another reason*

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Easy, a ship crashes. Then, radio bursts are sent out to human/allied forces. You get to play as one of the three remaining spartans, and you lead them back to a base, from then on, they fight alongside the chief/arbiter

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how come the halo 3 forum doesn't have a cool name, like all the others...it should be called the Ark : )

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Posted by: X HALO 360 x
how come the halo 3 forum doesn't have a cool name, like all the others...it should be called the Ark : )

you guys really don't caer about this topic to do u?

  • 07.11.2006 6:33 AM PDT

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Have Chief think back to the Reach events while he's on the Forerunner ship, he gets all the way to where the Pelicans split up and go on their seperate missions..then he's jarred forward by the ship exiting Slipspace..

Instead of just blurring the vision for the crashes, add two more flashbacks to the mix..then have Johnson explain to Miranda how he got off Halo near the end of the game?

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Have Chief think back to the Reach events while he's on the Forerunner ship, he gets all the way to where the Pelicans split up and go on their seperate missions..then he's jarred forward by the ship exiting Slipspace..

Instead of just blurring the vision for the crashes, add two more flashbacks to the mix..then have Johnson explain to Miranda how he got off Halo near the end of the game?

They are going to tell all that stuff in yhe graphic novel

  • 07.11.2006 11:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Have Chief think back to the Reach events while he's on the Forerunner ship, he gets all the way to where the Pelicans split up and go on their seperate missions..then he's jarred forward by the ship exiting Slipspace..

Instead of just blurring the vision for the crashes, add two more flashbacks to the mix..then have Johnson explain to Miranda how he got off Halo near the end of the game?

They are going to tell all that stuff in yhe graphic novel
I know that..I bet he just escaped like how the Chief did (or the S-III cam to get him so he could be studied/used for security by Ackerson like he was over Reach) and got picked up by some ONI people..

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Wow, just, ah, uh...I can't explain this, jeez.

You guys are saying that the ending of the book [probably] will be the ending of the game?
The books and the games are different, you said that yourself MLG, so why aren't the games exactly like the books? Its just way too off to have these seperate things mix, so why aren't the games and the books alike in every way?

You said [in one of your quotes] that one of the guys said that some plot elements of the book were left out of the game and vice versa, so why should they come together at the end? That would leave everything out. And they have to have a book based on Halo 2 also. Otherwise its just stupid,


But yea, thanks for a clean conversation, and MLG, your avatar reminds me of a creme lifesaver.

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Well just don't worry about explaining it, if people don't want to read the books then they don't care about the story anyways.
Don't you remember the Marine saying in the trailer "I didn't think they would send a spartan.

That should be proof enough that their are other Spartans, thats good enough to me, also don't forget the spartan in DOA they didn't explain how she was, just how she went back in time.
It doesn't look to me that Bungie cares to explain their are other spartans to the ignorant.

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  • 07.11.2006 11:55 AM PDT

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The Spartan in DOA is a fake. A Marine would say "a Spartan" because they are never told when Spartans are dead, to keep morale on the battlefield up.

I don't think that quote was proof, but I posted plenty more proof here, and in other threads, along with one of my own.

  • 07.11.2006 11:57 AM PDT

How could we introduce spartans without confusing ppl?
By not doing it at all.

Seriously.

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Posted by: Retarded Moose
Halo 1 = 1 Spartan
Halo 2 = 1 Spartan
Halo 3 = 1 Spartan

If we follow this pattern then...
Halo 1= MC
Halo 2= MC and Arbirter
Halo 3= MC, Arbirter, and Flood?

I think a character perhaps a Human strugling to regain control after being taken over by an infection form would make a awesome character, I'd love to see how the Flood came to be and what exactly Gravemind wants.

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no offence but thats stupid

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really

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