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Subject: Is it me or are Halo 4's maps not that great?


Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

Needler needs buffing, but I think the SAW's fine the way it is.

  • 12.29.2012 11:39 AM PDT


Posted by: Kadoozy

Posted by: BalistaGaming

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Posted by: BalistaGaming
I personally like Haven and Meltdown. The other ones range from meh to awful.

Also, anyone else feel like Ragnarok is Blood Gulch 3.0/Hemorrhage 2.0?


No. I feel like it's Valhalla 2.0. Because it is Valhalla 2.0

Was that he other canyon map from Reach? I thought it was like that one too (except without idiots waiting at the spawn just to get the banshee.)


Too obvious. Try again.

Yeah it took me a second to remember it was older than Reach...

  • 12.29.2012 11:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: BalistaGaming

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

Needler needs buffing, but I think the SAW's fine the way it is.


How many shots does it take to kill with the SAW?

  • 12.29.2012 11:41 AM PDT
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The game is blam! The only good maps are exile and haven and that other one with the yellow laser beam in the middle.

  • 12.29.2012 11:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: BalistaGaming

Posted by: Kadoozy

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I personally like Haven and Meltdown. The other ones range from meh to awful.

Also, anyone else feel like Ragnarok is Blood Gulch 3.0/Hemorrhage 2.0?


No. I feel like it's Valhalla 2.0. Because it is Valhalla 2.0

Was that he other canyon map from Reach? I thought it was like that one too (except without idiots waiting at the spawn just to get the banshee.)
No, it was from Halo 3.

I wouldn't even call it Valhalla 2.0. It is literally the same map (with minor changes, such as the beta ledge at water spawn) with a different vehicle set. I wouldn't even call it a different map from how it is in terms of geometry.

Valhalla = Ragnarok
Coagulation = Blood Gulch 2.0

  • 12.29.2012 11:42 AM PDT


Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09

Posted by: BalistaGaming

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

Needler needs buffing, but I think the SAW's fine the way it is.


How many shots does it take to kill with the SAW?

I don't know exactly, but it definitely kills faster than an Assault Rifle, and I know for a fact that if it was a Loadout gun, people wouldn't be complaining about the Boltshot.

  • 12.29.2012 11:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09

Posted by: BalistaGaming

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

Needler needs buffing, but I think the SAW's fine the way it is.


How many shots does it take to kill with the SAW?
Not much actually. It fires a hell load of bullets(fire rate)anyways and has a huge ass clip.

  • 12.29.2012 11:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
I can't wait until they add those small maps they promised into Matchmaking.


If 343 is good at anything, it is making promises that they can't live up to.

  • 12.29.2012 11:46 AM PDT
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I find the maps equal to the Halo 3 maps. I also find it more balanced than any other Halo game.

  • 12.29.2012 11:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mikelp_1

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
I can't wait until they add those small maps they promised into Matchmaking.


If 343 is good at anything, it is making promises that they can't live up to.
I'm gonna use that sometime.

  • 12.29.2012 11:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09

Posted by: BalistaGaming

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

Needler needs buffing, but I think the SAW's fine the way it is.


How many shots does it take to kill with the SAW?
Not much actually. It fires a hell load of bullets(fire rate)anyways and has a huge ass clip.
I think it would be interesting to try. But I honestly think that would be making things too fast for kill times. Everything would be OP.

  • 12.29.2012 11:50 AM PDT

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The slayer/BTB maps suffer from reverse problems. The slayer maps are too large and have too little cover, which leads to one team constantly chasing the other one round the map. The BTB maps on the other hand are too small and have far too much cover. Even if Plasma pistols and grenades weren't in loadouts, there is far too much cover from vehicles in most of the maps. I feel this was due to the complaints of maps like hemorrhage being too open in reach and difficult/boring for players on foot, though any decent player could easily work their way round the map with little hindrance from vehicles.

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Posted by: Kadoozy
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It's normal for pieces of crap to not be fun


Posted by: Lord Gwyn
The game is boring.

Plain and simple.


Posted by: Oh so Lag
Haven is the only decent one and it gets old.


Posted by: alex0612
It's not the maps, it's the game.


This.

  • 12.29.2012 11:54 AM PDT

<(-_-)> Teh mokey is not amused

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

I think making the DMR 5 shot would degrade from its usefulness too much, as the light rifle would then be superior in both long and close range. Keeping it 4 shot would work fine.

  • 12.29.2012 11:54 AM PDT

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Ragnarok is the only one I really enjoy, and it's not even original.

  • 12.29.2012 12:05 PM PDT

Ignore my gamertag. It's actually Dragonzzilla.

Let me guess, you want Halo 3.5?

  • 12.29.2012 12:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Balance fixes. BR= 4 Shot, AR=12 shot, Storm Rifle+Surpressor gets buffed, DMR=5 Shot, Carbine=6 shot, Magnum=5 shot, LR(scoped)=3 Shot, LR(Unscoped)=4 shot, SAW and Needler needs buff so it can still outclass the Loadout weapons, power weapons remain the same.

Is this a good way to balance them? Plus nerfing the bullet magnetism and aim assist on all of them, but mostly the DMR.

EDIT: Boltshot charge range decreased.

I think making the DMR 5 shot would degrade from its usefulness too much, as the light rifle would then be superior in both long and close range. Keeping it 4 shot would work fine.
It's actually a 5-shot already. He was implying to not change it.

  • 12.29.2012 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dragonzzilla
Let me guess, you want Halo 3.5?

>Implying there is something wrong with that.

  • 12.29.2012 12:19 PM PDT

I absolutely despise Complex and Vortex.

  • 12.29.2012 12:21 PM PDT

Ignore my gamertag. It's actually Dragonzzilla.

Posted by: jacob crawford
Posted by: Dragonzzilla
Let me guess, you want Halo 3.5?
>Implying there is something wrong with that.
Yeah, let's do it! Halo 4 is waaaay too Call of Duty for our tastes so let's go back to Halo 3's original formula because that'll stop the game from becoming Call of Duty! Yeah, let's do it again! That'll show them Halo is better than Call of Duty!

[Edited on 12.29.2012 12:28 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2012 12:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Omega 343
It's normal for pieces of crap to not be fun

  • 12.29.2012 12:29 PM PDT
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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.

There are some good ones, but most are just "meh" maps- not particularly bad, not particularly good.

Still, it's leagues beyond Reach's map design.

  • 12.29.2012 12:31 PM PDT

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What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?

Halo 4's maps are the worst of any FPS I've ever bought.

  • 12.29.2012 12:31 PM PDT

Stop banning me please.

The maps are too big. Because the sprint is near unlimited. The game could be great if they balanced certain aspects of 3 and the present verision of 4

  • 12.29.2012 12:34 PM PDT

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I agree with this, I dislike the maps

  • 12.29.2012 12:36 PM PDT

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