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Superman is at the power in Quintilian tons. Remember where he lifts 200 Quintilian tons after absorbing too much solar energy? The guy there says his strength has tripled. So his normal strength is Quintilian tons. [/quote]
Actually his normal strength is infinite post crisis and pre New 52. New 52 is in the sextillions IIRC.

No matter what iteration of Superman we're dealing with (unless it's Golden Age) Superman > Goku in just about everything.

It's mathematical fact.[/quote]

Uh no, animated series superman can easily get killed by goku. He was kind of weak. [/quote]
Well good thing I'm not talking about animated series huh?[/quote]

You yourself said any iteration, so you must also mean animated supes or anything non canon. Anyway I can see goku using kaioken only to beat animated supes. [/quote]
I meant any comic iteration. I suppose I should have mad that more clear. Apologies.

Anyway, animated Supes speedblitzed Darkseid did he not? I'll admit that it would be close with DCAU Supes vs Goku, but I'd still say he he wins.[/quote]

Okay now you're just jacking off to superman. Superman had trouble stopping a train and struggled a little to lift a building.

So did Goku, and also struggled to lift 40 tons apparently.


Yes but that puts them at the same level on strength only. In endurance, speed and power goku was far above superman. Of course we're only taking about TAS superman.

The endurance not so much. DCAU Supes can drill holes into the ocean floor, and tanked the binary fusion weapon, which was stated to be as powerful as a nuke.

We haven't really seen any speed feats either, but he's probably supersonic just like Goku.


Yes but gokus sheer power and skill in martial arts outclasses TAS supes. TAS supes was only an average brawler.

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Superman is at the power in Quintilian tons. Remember where he lifts 200 Quintilian tons after absorbing too much solar energy? The guy there says his strength has tripled. So his normal strength is Quintilian tons. [/quote]
Actually his normal strength is infinite post crisis and pre New 52. New 52 is in the sextillions IIRC.

No matter what iteration of Superman we're dealing with (unless it's Golden Age) Superman > Goku in just about everything.

It's mathematical fact.[/quote]

Uh no, animated series superman can easily get killed by goku. He was kind of weak. [/quote]
Well good thing I'm not talking about animated series huh?[/quote]

You yourself said any iteration, so you must also mean animated supes or anything non canon. Anyway I can see goku using kaioken only to beat animated supes. [/quote]
I meant any comic iteration. I suppose I should have mad that more clear. Apologies.

Anyway, animated Supes speedblitzed Darkseid did he not? I'll admit that it would be close with DCAU Supes vs Goku, but I'd still say he he wins.[/quote]

Okay now you're just jacking off to superman. Superman had trouble stopping a train and struggled a little to lift a building.

So did Goku, and also struggled to lift 40 tons apparently.


Yes but that puts them at the same level on strength only. In endurance, speed and power goku was far above superman. Of course we're only taking about TAS superman.

The endurance not so much. DCAU Supes can drill holes into the ocean floor, and tanked the binary fusion weapon, which was stated to be as powerful as a nuke.

We haven't really seen any speed feats either, but he's probably supersonic just like Goku.


Yes but gokus sheer power and skill in martial arts outclasses TAS supes. TAS supes was only an average brawler.

Ok, you win. DCAU Supes loses to Goku. Happy now?

But that's not really the argument at hand. The argument is main continuity Supes vs main continuity Goku. And Supes stomps every time. It shouldn't even be debatable.

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Superman is at the power in Quintilian tons. Remember where he lifts 200 Quintilian tons after absorbing too much solar energy? The guy there says his strength has tripled. So his normal strength is Quintilian tons. [/quote]
Actually his normal strength is infinite post crisis and pre New 52. New 52 is in the sextillions IIRC.

No matter what iteration of Superman we're dealing with (unless it's Golden Age) Superman > Goku in just about everything.

It's mathematical fact.[/quote]

Uh no, animated series superman can easily get killed by goku. He was kind of weak. [/quote]
Well good thing I'm not talking about animated series huh?[/quote]

You yourself said any iteration, so you must also mean animated supes or anything non canon. Anyway I can see goku using kaioken only to beat animated supes. [/quote]
I meant any comic iteration. I suppose I should have mad that more clear. Apologies.

Anyway, animated Supes speedblitzed Darkseid did he not? I'll admit that it would be close with DCAU Supes vs Goku, but I'd still say he he wins.[/quote]

Okay now you're just jacking off to superman. Superman had trouble stopping a train and struggled a little to lift a building.[/quote]
So did Goku, and also struggled to lift 40 tons apparently.[/quote]

Yes but that puts them at the same level on strength only. In endurance, speed and power goku was far above superman. Of course we're only taking about TAS superman.

The endurance not so much. DCAU Supes can drill holes into the ocean floor, and tanked the binary fusion weapon, which was stated to be as powerful as a nuke.

We haven't really seen any speed feats either, but he's probably supersonic just like Goku.


Yes but gokus sheer power and skill in martial arts outclasses TAS supes. TAS supes was only an average brawler.

Ok, you win. DCAU Supes loses to Goku. Happy now?

But that's not really the argument at hand. The argument is main continuity Supes vs main continuity Goku. And Supes stomps every time. It shouldn't even be debatable.


Thats obvious to see. But still I prefer goku. Superman honestly bores me.

  • 12.31.2012 6:44 AM PDT

Hmmm, I don't know what to say...

Goku, hands down.

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Goku, hands down.

Care to explain why?

If you even bothered to read the thread, you'd realise why this statement is incorrect.

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Goku, hands down.

Care to explain why?

If you even bothered to read the thread, you'd realise why this statement is incorrect.


No need to get all touchy now WEE MAN MJJC.

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Posted by: Masontheslayer9
Goku, hands down.


Goku can't lift over 16,000 tons. Superman can lift tons in the Quintilians. You lose. Good day sir.

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Goku, hands down.

Care to explain why?

If you even bothered to read the thread, you'd realise why this statement is incorrect.


No need to get all touchy now WEE MAN MJJC.

No need to assume the tone of my posts Mr Wayne.

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[quote]Posted by: The Batman 99

[quote]Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC

Mr Wayne.


I dont know what you're talking about. My name's not wayne. And I totally have parents.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 6:59 AM PST]

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Posted by: Kai Hiwatari
If Goku can somehow recover from getting beasted by Supes, would't he get a giant Zenkai?

Excluding Cell, no body got a zenkai, or atleast one that helped after the Frieza saga.

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Goku, hands down.


Goku can't lift over 16,000 tons. Superman can lift tons in the Quintilians. You lose. Good day sir.
got some sauce for that?

Cuz he is shown punching someone so hard that the shockwave shakes the very planet. That is a good feat for someone only able to lift 16,000 lbs.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 7:29 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 7:26 AM PDT

GOAT

I know next to nothing about these muscled men, but who can lift more is no indication of who would win.

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Goku, hands down.


Goku can't lift over 16,000 tons. Superman can lift tons in the Quintilians. You lose. Good day sir.
got some sauce for that?

Cuz he is shown punching someone so hard that the shockwave shakes the very planet. That is a good feat for someone only able to lift 16,000 lbs.



Goku here can't lift 40 tons in base form.

SSJ times their power level by 50
SSJ2 times' that by 2
SSJ3 times' that by 4.

So at SSJ3 Goku can't lift 16,000 tons. Math'd

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Goku, hands down.


Goku can't lift over 16,000 tons. Superman can lift tons in the Quintilians. You lose. Good day sir.
got some sauce for that?

Cuz he is shown punching someone so hard that the shockwave shakes the very planet. That is a good feat for someone only able to lift 16,000 lbs.



Goku here can't lift 40 tons in base form.

SSJ times their power level by 50
SSJ2 times' that by 2
SSJ3 times' that by 4.

So at SSJ3 Goku can't lift 16,000 tons. Math'd


1) where is the sauce for your math?

2) I said highest level, that's SSJ4.

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1) where is the sauce for your math?

2) I said highest level, that's SSJ4.


A) Daizenshuu
B) GT isn't canon. But if you wanna go there lets go there. There isn't any way to indicate how much stronger SSJ4 is compared to SSJ3. However, as you have to turn into the massive ape, I suspect that SSJ4 is 500x stronger than base form, due to the 10x power increase in ape form and then I assumed doing the same thing which allowed you to go super got you SSJ4, which would be 50x. But this is mere guess work.

However, at the beginning of GT you see Goku fighting equal with uub, you see him fighting equal level with uub, who was as strong as kid buu at full power. And as he fought equally with kid buu at SSJ3, that means Goku normally in GT is 400x stronger. So 16,000 times 400 would equal 6,400,00 tons. Times that by 500 in SSJ4 and you get 3200000000 tons.

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[Edited on 12.31.2012 7:45 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 7:44 AM PDT

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I know next to nothing about these muscled men, but who can lift more is no indication of who would win.

Haha, do you even lift, milk drinker?

OT, I would say it would be close. A slight edge to Goku, however.

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If Goku can somehow recover from getting bested by Supes, wouldn't he get a giant Zenkai?

He sure would because the plot demands it.


And if this fight were to be a DBZ movie, he'd win by getting beaten nearly to death, then coming back later and totally roflstomping him.

That's what I hate about the movies. The villains are kicking their asses and near the end of the movie. The Z Warriors somehow win because the plot needs them to be alive. I hope that Dragonball Z 2013 movie fixes that problem. I want the villains to be somewhat equal to the main fighters.

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Posted by: BlackHeaven
I know next to nothing about these muscled men, but who can lift more is no indication of who would win.

When you have someone who has infinite strength, and someone else who's barely scraping above the 16,000 ton mark, yes it is a painfully obvious indication of who would win.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 7:48 AM PST]

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Hilarious how you call others nerds when you have thousands of posts on a video game forum.


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  • 12.31.2012 7:49 AM PDT

Get ruled.

Doesn't matter how much Supes can lift. Goku has the 10x Kahmahahahahaha or whatever, and the Spirit Bomb.

  • 12.31.2012 7:51 AM PDT