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Subject: Halo 4 - Unlock Progression too "In-Depth"

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.

There was some magic about being able to boot up Halo and select your colors and emblem and then going into the fight. Upon booting up Halo 4 I can select my colors fine, but the emblems are limited, and the backgrounds are LOCKED. This is only the first indicator of the new "progression" system that was put into a game that was never designed to use it.

We of course have the loadouts as well, something that could easily just be a select AR, BR, or DMR at start. Instead we have a pointlessly expanded weapon sandbox in which most of the weapons are never used. I won't even get into the idiocy of being able to spawn with plasma grenades and or a plasma pistol. Halo did not need loadouts that the player could customize, especially one that requires a CODesque unlock system.

Then we have the armor system. I would not be one to argue if it was based solely upon getting armor at levels. Instead we see ridiculous tasks and other feats that require long hours of grinding to obtain some of the nicer pieces. Why? All this does is add that fake "re-play value" to the game.

To make up for the lack of an incentive based ranking system being the basis of gameplay 343i padded a pointless incentive system to get players to continue to play. This tactic has visibly failed, and large portions of the long term Halo community have gone. What then are your thoughts on these unlocks Flood? And do try to remain civil, I know that will be hard for some of you.

  • 12.29.2012 1:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Falcon Saber
I like how your sub box is full of science and political videos but your recommendations are full of anime girls kissing each other.

Just Zoid being Zoid ^_^

Adapt

  • 12.29.2012 1:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Teh_Zoid
Adapt

  • 12.29.2012 1:51 PM PDT

Oh my god OP, you really hate Halo 4 don't you?

  • 12.29.2012 1:52 PM PDT
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So many helmets, yet not a single one I actually want to wear :(

  • 12.29.2012 1:52 PM PDT

I make a living of selling my body, and I don't mean sex.


Posted by: Teh_Zoid
Adapt
Never.

  • 12.29.2012 1:52 PM PDT

04s suck

Having to get master commendations for certain pieces of armour is ridiculous. Some of the commendations will take forever even if boosting.

  • 12.29.2012 1:52 PM PDT

Here I was thinking OP had moved on.

  • 12.29.2012 1:53 PM PDT
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1.) Emblems being locked are stupid, I agree

2.) Loadouts, I see most people using all weapons except for the Magnum, I think the system works fine.

3.) Wait, back in Reach people complained about how you should have to "work" for your armor. That's how they implemented it in 4.

  • 12.29.2012 1:53 PM PDT

Posted by: Falcon Saber
I like how your sub box is full of science and political videos but your recommendations are full of anime girls kissing each other.

Just Zoid being Zoid ^_^


Posted by: Eijsvogel2
Having to get master commendations for certain pieces of armour is ridiculous. Some of the commendations will take forever even if boosting.
Plama Pistol Kills

  • 12.29.2012 1:53 PM PDT

I am the Thorian, known as Species 37 to you people. I am an ancient sentient plant that is fifty thousand years old. My ability to hibernate for thousands of years makes my real age impossible to guess though you are welcome to try.

Whilst I don't see a problem with unlocking armour and weapons at different levels, I do agree that unlocked emblems and backgrounds is downright stupid.

But then again I have the Amazon and Limited Edition emblems so I can't really complain...

  • 12.29.2012 1:53 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


Posted by: Eijsvogel2
Having to get master commendations for certain pieces of armour is ridiculous. Some of the commendations will take forever even if boosting.
That's my point, but if you really want that stupid piece of armor 343i is banking on you doing it. There are people I'm sure who play just for unlocks. I have given up on Halo 4 for that reason, no one plays for the objective once again, because unless there is some unknown "win mastery" commendation they have no reason to.

  • 12.29.2012 1:54 PM PDT

Bones of my enemies.


Posted by: Insolence
So many helmets, yet not a single one I actually want to wear :(

This. There's only a few of the armor sets in the game that I actually like. The rest look like a fu­cking 8 year old drew them. The unlocking emblems system doesn't work either. Unlocking armor and whatnot is alright, but adding that system to emblems is just stupid.

  • 12.29.2012 1:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: Eijsvogel2
Having to get master commendations for certain pieces of armour is ridiculous. Some of the commendations will take forever even if boosting.
That's my point, but if you really want that stupid piece of armor 343i is banking on you doing it. There are people I'm sure who play just for unlocks. I have given up on Halo 4 for that reason, no one plays for the objective once again, because unless there is some unknown "win mastery" commendation they have no reason to.


This. This. This.

Totally agree with your obsessive hatred of Halo 4. No joke.

  • 12.29.2012 1:56 PM PDT

My Brahman is ready.


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Here I was thinking OP had moved on.


Yeah, I'mma just not even argue with him now. I'll just nod my head and say yes to whatever now.

[Edited on 12.29.2012 2:00 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2012 1:57 PM PDT


Posted by: Insolence
So many helmets, yet not a single one I actually want to wear :(


Yes, to me, all the armour looks the same.

  • 12.29.2012 2:02 PM PDT

My Brahman is ready.


Posted by: Alex031097

Posted by: Insolence
So many helmets, yet not a single one I actually want to wear :(


Yes, to me, all the armour looks the same.


Agreed, but I noticed (like in Reach), the farther you rank up, the more individual the armor pieces are for each class.

  • 12.29.2012 2:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Black Eagle X99
I won't even get into the idiocy of being able to spawn with plasma grenades and or a plasma pistol.

See, this is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. The Plasma Pistol is the most useful thing I ever spawned with.

Make an intelligent argument, then try again.

  • 12.29.2012 2:04 PM PDT

Bones of my enemies.


Posted by: DeltaFiveZero

Posted by: Black Eagle X99
I won't even get into the idiocy of being able to spawn with plasma grenades and or a plasma pistol.

See, this is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. The Plasma Pistol is the most useful thing I ever spawned with.

Make an intelligent argument, then try again.

Wow, I hope you die a brutal death noob.

  • 12.29.2012 2:05 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223


Posted by: DeltaFiveZero

Posted by: Black Eagle X99
I won't even get into the idiocy of being able to spawn with plasma grenades and or a plasma pistol.

The Plasma Pistol is the most useful thing I ever spawned with.



That is his point, way to miss it completely.

  • 12.29.2012 2:08 PM PDT
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I heard someone say once (paraphrasing here) "Multiflag on Blood Gulch with your friends is what makes Halo, Halo." I GUARANTEE that more people agree with that sentiment than "Getting a 50 in MLG is what makes Halo, Halo." - Oboewan42
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I found the armor I wanted early on, got my preferred loadout set up (although I played 90% Slayer Pro so that was pointless), and eventually got my emblem and background combo.

Gameplay is stale, lost interest, stopped playing. Seems Halo is going out with a whimper.

  • 12.29.2012 2:11 PM PDT

Proud member of the Herd

OP. Cool it.

  • 12.29.2012 2:12 PM PDT

No u


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Posted by: Teh_Zoid
Adapt

  • 12.29.2012 2:13 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


Posted by: DeltaFiveZero

Posted by: Black Eagle X99
I won't even get into the idiocy of being able to spawn with plasma grenades and or a plasma pistol.

See, this is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. The Plasma Pistol is the most useful thing I ever spawned with.

Make an intelligent argument, then try again.
Yes, I know what I said. If you're going to be an ass try harder next time. The plasma pistol is the vehicle destroyer. It's hard enough to stay alive in a warthog as it is. People spawning with these makes it impossible. It is TOO useful.

  • 12.29.2012 2:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: DeltaFiveZero

Posted by: Black Eagle X99
I won't even get into the idiocy of being able to spawn with plasma grenades and or a plasma pistol.

See, this is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. The Plasma Pistol is the most useful thing I ever spawned with.

Make an intelligent argument, then try again.
Yes, I know what I said. If you're going to be an ass try harder next time. The plasma pistol is the vehicle destroyer. It's hard enough to stay alive in a warthog as it is. People spawning with these makes it impossible. It is TOO useful.


Ah. Sorry. I guess I didn't pick up on the sarcasm, I was too busy sifting through the bull-blam!-.

You can rant or you can make an intelligent argument. If you have a point, I refuse to recognize it, because it's too couched in anger. But the two ARE mutually exclusive.

  • 12.29.2012 2:32 PM PDT