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Subject: Why is this Brute so damn big?

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Halo 4 Prologue

2:22 shows chief manhandling a giant Brute.... Obviously in game they weren't that big, but did 343i take the size of that brute from canon/legends? I remember reading somewhere that the average Brute size was 14 feet tall... Seems about right in that video, though I find it hard to believe that humanity fought apes that big.

I don't remember which book, but there was a part where John took on a Brute his size and barely won, perhaps chieftains are just abnormally huge?

  • 12.30.2012 1:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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The Average size of a brute is 9 feet seeing as that is a chieftain he might be around 11 or so, which is within range. I am glad 343I finally did the sizes correctly so people understand how massive these aliens are to us.

Next time you go to a department store (home depot) look for that giant measuring stick they normally have near the entrance and look up at 16 feet. that is about how tall the Didact is.

  • 12.30.2012 1:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

I was happy they made the Brute the right size in the prologue; at a rough comparison the Brute looks about 12 feet, practically Hunter size.

Of course, it is a Chieftain so it's more plausible but still pretty huge for a Brute. Then again there was that elite called Xytan in GoO who was like 10 feet or something.

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Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.

  • 12.30.2012 5:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


It says on halopedia that the grunts are 5ft 6 average which is around the sizes of some humans, but that definitely has to be wrong unless it means that its 5ft 6 with armor so aren't they around 4ft without armor?

[Edited on 12.30.2012 6:03 AM PST]

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Posted by: adamj004
Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


It says on halopedia that the grunts are 5ft 6 average which is around the sizes of some humans, but that definitely has to be wrong unless it means that its 5ft 6 with armor so aren't they around 4ft without armor?


That's what I think, as their backpacks make them seem larger than they actually are. So if anything, Grunts are probably around 4ft and above without armour.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


You might want to go to waypoint and check out the size retcons.

It was made clear in Goo that the elites armor,hologram, and pedestal might have contributed to his size.

  • 12.30.2012 9:00 AM PDT


Posted by: Sandtrap

Posted by: adamj004
Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


It says on halopedia that the grunts are 5ft 6 average which is around the sizes of some humans, but that definitely has to be wrong unless it means that its 5ft 6 with armor so aren't they around 4ft without armor?


That's what I think, as their backpacks make them seem larger than they actually are. So if anything, Grunts are probably around 4ft and above without armour.


The Halo CE booklet had them at 5 feet.

  • 12.30.2012 9:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: TallestSpark
Halo 4 Prologue

2:22 shows chief manhandling a giant Brute.... Obviously in game they weren't that big, but did 343i take the size of that brute from canon/legends? I remember reading somewhere that the average Brute size was 14 feet tall... Seems about right in that video, though I find it hard to believe that humanity fought apes that big.

I don't remember which book, but there was a part where John took on a Brute his size and barely won, perhaps chieftains are just abnormally huge?


Yeah. They're terrifying. I couldn't get myself to fight anything that big.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 9:53 AM PST]

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Posted by: SharkTooth__
Yeah. They're terrifying. I couldn't get myself to fight anything that big.
You wouldn't fight a shark or a whale?

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Posted by: adamj004
Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


It says on halopedia that the grunts are 5ft 6 average which is around the sizes of some humans, but that definitely has to be wrong unless it means that its 5ft 6 with armor so aren't they around 4ft without armor?


That's what I think, as their backpacks make them seem larger than they actually are. So if anything, Grunts are probably around 4ft and above without armour.


The Halo CE booklet had them at 5 feet.


But like my friend here asked, was that counting their backpacks?

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


You might want to go to waypoint and check out the size retcons.

It was made clear in Goo that the elites armor,hologram, and pedestal might have contributed to his size.


No. I don't want to wade into more retcons. I've had enough bloody retcons with Reach and Kilo 5.

  • 12.31.2012 6:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: SharkTooth__
Yeah. They're terrifying. I couldn't get myself to fight anything that big.
You wouldn't fight a shark or a whale?


Good point.

  • 12.31.2012 8:13 AM PDT
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That thing is like 14 feet tall . . . Well, they changed everything, so yeah.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Brutes are generally 9 feet tall but chieftains are taller due to hormonal changes with being the top dog. So it is only 10 feet if 11 which isn't out of the normal.


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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Sandtrap
Nope, most of the Covenant races dwarf us in size. Even Grunts, the smallest of the them, are basically as large as we are, and even then, they are a hell of a lot stronger than we are.


You might want to go to waypoint and check out the size retcons.

It was made clear in Goo that the elites armor,hologram, and pedestal might have contributed to his size.


No. I don't want to wade into more retcons. I've had enough bloody retcons with Reach and Kilo 5.



Everybody Ignores Reach, Karen didn't retcon anything even though nearly everybody ignores her.

so i don't see the issue.

  • 12.31.2012 8:39 AM PDT

What a waste....

They are normally really tall. Chief is like 7 ft and that guy is about 4 above him, so 11 makes sense. The average for Brutes is 9', but you must consider that the "average" for people is like 5'7". It takes in all the ranges.

  • 12.31.2012 6:20 PM PDT

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I'm so happy that 343 made the Brute look... Brutish.

I was just pissed that I couldn't fight a true Brute, not those inbred roid-junkies who wore pottery on their heads on Reach...

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: crazyfoomandude
I'm so happy that 343 made the Brute look... Brutish.

I was just pissed that I couldn't fight a true Brute, not those inbred roid-junkies who wore pottery on their heads on Reach...


I honestly think the halo 2 brutes were the perfect representation of them. Halo wars is behind that.

  • 12.31.2012 7:23 PM PDT

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Makes me happy they made the Brute as it should be. I wish Didact was portrayed as tall as he is in canon, though.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: PISTOLSQUIRREL
Makes me happy they made the Brute as it should be. I wish Didact was portrayed as tall as he is in canon, though.


I haven't seen anybody here work out how tall he is in the game his height should be around feet.

If it's even close to that i will be happy, but it is his cutscene height that is canon in which he looks just about that size.

  • 12.31.2012 10:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: CoolCJ24
I was happy they made the Brute the right size in the prologue; at a rough comparison the Brute looks about 12 feet, practically Hunter size.

Of course, it is a Chieftain so it's more plausible but still pretty huge for a Brute. Then again there was that elite called Xytan in GoO who was like 10 feet or something.

11. The tallest elite ever.

  • 12.31.2012 10:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: PISTOLSQUIRREL
Makes me happy they made the Brute as it should be. I wish Didact was portrayed as tall as he is in canon, though.


I haven't seen anybody here work out how tall he is in the game his height should be around feet.

If it's even close to that i will be happy, but it is his cutscene height that is canon in which he looks just about that size.


The thing that kind of bothers me is the fact that in the cutscene in Forerunner, Chief is maybe half or a little over half Didact's size. If Didact is around 15/16 feet in size, Chief shouldn't be that tall compared to him. I'm not entirely sure.

  • 01.01.2013 12:07 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: crazyfoomandude
I'm so happy that 343 made the Brute look... Brutish.

I was just pissed that I couldn't fight a true Brute, not those inbred roid-junkies who wore pottery on their heads on Reach...


I honestly think the halo 2 brutes were the perfect representation of them. Halo wars is behind that.

I agree with this, Halo 2 Brutes matched what they were described as in novels...You don't go into CQC against these guys

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