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Subject: Utah teachers are being trained to use guns.

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Posted by: DarthMike431

Posted by: BuzzKill9009

Posted by: lime013
Let's see how this goes.

Some different scenarios:
1) school gets sued for arming teachers
2) mainstream media condemns it
3) teacher actually stops shooting
a) teacher is hero and has her job
b) teacher is patted on the back and let go
4) there wont be any school shootings

Some more scenarios:
1) Teacher goes crazy and shoots students.
2) Student finds a way of getting the gun and shoots teachers/students.


Common sense -----> Teachers have an extensive background check and a mental check to make sure they are safe around a gun. Put the gun in a safe by the teachers desk that only the teachers know.

  • 12.30.2012 12:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: of the Rose

Posted by: BuzzKill9009

Posted by: of the Rose
What a waste of money.

And having guns in close proximity to students? Yeah, good idea.


teachers buy guns, not the school, then they lock them up so the students cant get to them <---- common sense

Students still break into things. Theft in public schools is common. But apparently you're not smart enough to look at things from a real world perspective.


because the average Pre-K - 12th grade student knows how to break a safe?

  • 12.30.2012 12:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Fire of the Rose

Posted by: BuzzKill9009

Posted by: of the Rose
What a waste of money.

And having guns in close proximity to students? Yeah, good idea.


teachers buy guns, not the school, then they lock them up so the students cant get to them <---- common sense

Students still break into things. Theft in public schools is common. But apparently you're not smart enough to look at things from a real world perspective.

Who is going to get away with getting into the Teachers safe? Especially if the clip is in the teachers pocket

  • 12.30.2012 12:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: theslatcher

Posted by: DELTA STRIKE
and then a teacher went crazy...

  • 12.30.2012 12:55 PM PDT


Posted by: DELTA STRIKE
and then a teacher went crazy...


This, also what if a pupil manages to take it, either sneakily or by overpowering the teacher

  • 12.30.2012 12:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: lucking spartan

Posted by: theslatcher

Posted by: DELTA STRIKE
and then a teacher went crazy...

It happens. Most the people who shoot up places are crazy.

  • 12.30.2012 12:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: of the Rose

Posted by: BuzzKill9009

Posted by: of the Rose

Posted by: BuzzKill9009

Posted by: of the Rose
What a waste of money.

And having guns in close proximity to students? Yeah, good idea.


teachers buy guns, not the school, then they lock them up so the students cant get to them <---- common sense

Students still break into things. Theft in public schools is common. But apparently you're not smart enough to look at things from a real world perspective.


because the average Pre-K - 12th grade student knows how to break a safe?

Implying every teacher will purchase a safe. If it was mandatory to use the safe, then the school would pay for it, thus wasting more money for a moronic idea.


because none of these safe's are cheap right?

even then having a trigger lock would be the next thing

[Edited on 12.30.2012 12:58 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 12:57 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.


Posted by: theslatcher

Posted by: DELTA STRIKE
and then a teacher went crazy...

  • 12.30.2012 12:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: of the Rose

Posted by: XxExpungexX
Who is going to get away with getting into the Teachers safe? Especially if the clip is in the teachers pocket

Because a teacher will keep a magazine (not clip) in their pocket. Also implying every teacher will go out of their way to get a safe.


because keeping kids safe isnt a priority at school *derp

  • 12.30.2012 12:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Fire of the Rose

Posted by: XxExpungexX
Who is going to get away with getting into the Teachers safe? Especially if the clip is in the teachers pocket

Because a teacher will keep a magazine (not clip) in their pocket. Also implying every teacher will go out of their way to get a safe.
Well there is no point in arguing with you. All I am saying is that tragedies can be prevented with multiple solutions that work to together.

  • 12.30.2012 1:00 PM PDT

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Next thing we know we'll be giving the janitor landmines. This isn't going to end well for anyone.

  • 12.30.2012 1:02 PM PDT

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As a gun owner, I do not like this. What if a student overpowers a teacher and takes their weapon?

  • 12.30.2012 1:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: of the Rose

Posted by: BuzzKill9009
because none of these safe's are cheap right?

even then having a trigger lock would be the next thing

On a teacher's salary? Yes. And they're not going to get a trigger lock. The size of that matched with the gun doesn't even fit in the "cheap" safes you recommended.


1) an idiot doesnt have a trigger lock on their guns, I have them on mine
2) Some of the safe's will hold a gun, the point is (which you seem to be missing in this entire thread) that the teachers use common sense. Dont put the gun where a student can get it, dont have ammo in it, put it in a safe, put a trigger lock on it, etc.

  • 12.30.2012 1:02 PM PDT


Posted by: BuzzKill9009
Common sense -----> Teachers have an extensive background check and a mental check to make sure they are safe around a gun.

So if there's a teacher whose very smart and good at preparing students for SAT's etc. but isn't very good at handling a gun, they should be fired?
Put the gun in a safe by the teachers desk that only the teachers know.
Lol theft in schools are so common. Someone would be able to open the safe if they tried.

  • 12.30.2012 1:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agent Peeps
As a gun owner, I do not like this. What if a student overpowers a teacher and takes their weapon?


I would love to see a student try to break open a safe and a trigger lock.

I doubt the teachers will be flashing their guns around

  • 12.30.2012 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Gaara444
Maybe seeing it from a different perspective will help. Israel has Teachers armed with guns in their school.


Israel is a warzone that is completely different.

  • 12.30.2012 1:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: DarthMike431

Posted by: BuzzKill9009
Common sense -----> Teachers have an extensive background check and a mental check to make sure they are safe around a gun.

So if there's a teacher whose very smart and good at preparing students for SAT's etc. but isn't very good at handling a gun, they should be fired?
Put the gun in a safe by the teachers desk that only the teachers know.
Lol theft in schools are so common. Someone would be able to open the safe if they tried.


1)Why would they get fired for not being able to shoot a gun properly get fired when the background checks and mental test are to make sure that they dont snap?

2) I would love to see a kid break into a safe in between classes

  • 12.30.2012 1:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I a positive that at least one teacher will threaten to kill a student if he/she doesn't do something.


There is no logical reason why teachers need guns in school. I don't find security guards necessary but that would be better than giving teachers guns.

  • 12.30.2012 1:07 PM PDT