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Subject: Utah teachers are being trained to use guns.


Posted by: Gdude

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Posted by: lime013
Let's see how this goes.

Some different scenarios:
1) school gets sued for arming teachers
2) mainstream media condemns it
3) teacher actually stops shooting
a) teacher is hero and has her job
b) teacher is patted on the back and let go
4) there wont be any school shootings


5) teacher turns and shoots up the entire school.


Such a person shouldn't be teaching in the first place.


anyone can turn Teachers are not some holier than thou average person. They can be just as evil. Guess you have never been on youtube and did a search for abusive teachers. You'd be shocked how far some of them will go. Imagine the damage they could cause with a firearm.

If teachers get guns it can and will happen somewhere.

  • 12.30.2012 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gdude
It's amazing that the media gives guns such a bad rep. For every story about how guns are bad, ten stories about how they saved lives are covered up. And there's no bias in the media, eh?


The school shootings or shootings in general will keep on happening for as long as guns are so piss easy to obtain. So a few instances where guns saved a few lives makes up for so many other lives lost?

Guns being so accessable will never ever be good for a society. And it will continue to sprout violence in America.

If people really want guns all the time them they should be limited to being able to be only used on ranges. And thats it.

  • 12.30.2012 7:10 PM PDT

so you want a source?


try this

true story


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Posted by: Gdude
It's amazing that the media gives guns such a bad rep. For every story about how guns are bad, ten stories about how they saved lives are covered up. And there's no bias in the media, eh?


The school shootings or shootings in general will keep on happening for as long as guns are so piss easy to obtain. So a few instances where guns saved a few lives makes up for so many other lives lost?
confirmed ignorance. see mass shootings and what not are actually very uncommon. they just have a massive PR department.

for every time a good use of a firearm happens, it goes unreported in the media outside of the local level.

there is a bias in the media, and they do have a political agenda.

and not one of you "gunsr ebbul" people even know anything about Andrew Kehoe, or Oklahoma City.

  • 12.30.2012 7:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Gdude
It's amazing that the media gives guns such a bad rep. For every story about how guns are bad, ten stories about how they saved lives are covered up. And there's no bias in the media, eh?


The school shootings or shootings in general will keep on happening for as long as guns are so piss easy to obtain. So a few instances where guns saved a few lives makes up for so many other lives lost?

Guns being so accessable will never ever be good for a society. And it will continue to sprout violence in America.

If people really want guns all the time them they should be limited to being able to be only used on ranges. And thats it.


No, the number of times guns have saved lives FAR outweigh the times it's destroyed them. The media reports the bad stories because it goes with agenda.

And because criminals will obey laws right?

Also-look at crime rates where guns are banned. With the exception of Japan, it doesn't help. At all.

Clearly someone hates the bill of rites.

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  • 12.30.2012 7:41 PM PDT

we'll finally have enough people trained to kill John Lennon.

  • 12.30.2012 7:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

"guys there are so many guns what do we do?"
"make more guns?"

  • 12.30.2012 7:43 PM PDT
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Anybody who thinks this is a good idea is bonkers.

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Posted by: Gdude

Posted by: cameo_cream

Posted by: Gdude
It's amazing that the media gives guns such a bad rep. For every story about how guns are bad, ten stories about how they saved lives are covered up. And there's no bias in the media, eh?


The school shootings or shootings in general will keep on happening for as long as guns are so piss easy to obtain. So a few instances where guns saved a few lives makes up for so many other lives lost?

Guns being so accessable will never ever be good for a society. And it will continue to sprout violence in America.

If people really want guns all the time them they should be limited to being able to be only used on ranges. And thats it.


No, the number of times guns have saved lives FAR outweigh the times it's destroyed them. The media reports the bad stories because it goes with agenda.

And because criminals will obey laws right?
Also-look at crime rates where guns are banned. With the exception of Japan, it doesn't help. At all.

Clearly someone hates the bill of rites.
Japan, Canada, the UK.

Its not that it doesn't work, its that you DON'T WANT IT TO WORK.

  • 12.30.2012 7:51 PM PDT

so you want a source?


try this

true story


Posted by: derka derka
Anybody who thinks this is a good idea is bonkers.
you say bonkers i say less emotionally based and more rationally headed.

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Posted by: Gruntzilla24
Japan, Canada, the UK.

Its not that it doesn't work, its that you DON'T WANT IT TO WORK.
Those countries are VASTLY different than the US.

Japan has less people and all in about land the size of California. Less mileage along its borders mkaes it eaier to control what comes in.

Canada has 1/10th the population. It's easier to control guns when there's 30mil vs 315mil.

UK is the same as Japan. Smaller size, less people.

Not to mention a whole different culture resulting in a whole different viewpoint on firearms and their role in society.

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Posted by: derka derka
Anybody who thinks this is a good idea is bonkers.
you say bonkers i say less emotionally based and more rationally headed.
Nope, I'm still going with bonkers.

Delusional and blind also work.

Also, your strong emotions toward the 2nd Amendment are clouding your judgement. You'd be surprised to find that you are the one who is emotionally driven.

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Posted by: Gruntzilla24

Posted by: ShotgunTroll

Posted by: derka derka
Anybody who thinks this is a good idea is bonkers.
you say bonkers i say less emotionally based and more rationally headed.
I say bonkers.
Bonkers you say?

  • 12.30.2012 8:10 PM PDT

If we look at Israel, which has people walking around town with assault rifles, and look at the deaths in school incidents over the past 10 years, we find there were only 2. And those were from rockets fired indiscriminately at Israeli holdings. I think that record speaks for itself.

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If we look at Israel, which has people walking around town with assault rifles, and look at the deaths in school incidents over the past 10 years, we find there were only 2. And those were from rockets fired indiscriminately at Israeli holdings. I think that record speaks for itself.
Sounds like a perfect role model for America right now.

  • 12.30.2012 8:14 PM PDT

so you want a source?


try this

true story


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Gruntzilla24
Japan, Canada, the UK.

Its not that it doesn't work, its that you DON'T WANT IT TO WORK.
Those countries are VASTLY different than the US.

Japan has less people and all in about land the size of California. Less mileage along its borders mkaes it eaier to control what comes in.

Canada has 1/10th the population. It's easier to control guns when there's 30mil vs 315mil.

UK is the same as Japan. Smaller size, less people.

Not to mention a whole different culture resulting in a whole different viewpoint on firearms and their role in society.
and much as you're going to hate this: less cultural differences, with vast racial homogenity.

this leads to far less culture clash (usually leading to far less crimes when your random unknown guy is also distantly related and maybe also closely related at the same time) and far less immigration. less immigration of all types means less people and less differences mean less variables.

  • 12.30.2012 8:15 PM PDT

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  • 12.30.2012 8:19 PM PDT

so you want a source?


try this

true story


Posted by: Gruntzilla24

Posted by: ShotgunTroll

Posted by: derka derka
Anybody who thinks this is a good idea is bonkers.
you say bonkers i say less emotionally based and more rationally headed.
Nope, I'm still going with bonkers.

Delusional and blind also work.

Also, your strong emotions toward the 2nd Amendment are clouding your judgement. You'd be surprised to find that you are the one who is emotionally driven.
uh, no, genius. i'm factually based, but nice try.

brady campaign= outright lies, lies by omission, misstated and misphrashed facts, appeals to emotion and outright ignoring anything to the contrary.

you see it is you, being closemined and unwilling to seek facts that you don't understand.

any time an actual fact is presented "hurr you dumb redneck conspiracy theorist, go listen to more ebul NRA." is typically your kind's response.

do you even know who Andrew Kehoe was or what he did?

do you know about Oklahoma City? that was from Fertilizer.

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Posted by: Seggi31
"guys there are so many guns what do we do?"
"make more guns?"
I guess they're just trying to fight fire with fire.

  • 12.30.2012 8:35 PM PDT

I just don't understand American logic right there: the loose laws for guns are making everyone able to run riot and what's their solution?
"We should give everyone even more guns to defend themselves!"

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Now I feel even less safe at my school...

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  • 12.30.2012 8:45 PM PDT


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
What have we become as a society?

This hasn't been the way before now.
Before now, we didnt have 22 children and their principle DEAD because the only people that should have been responsible for the kids couldnt do anything. teachers are responsible for their students, but in a school shooting, they cant to -blam!-.



now in utah, they can.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
What have we become as a society?

This hasn't been the way before now.
Before now, we didnt have 22 children and their principle DEAD because the only people that should have been responsible for the kids couldnt do anything. teachers are responsible for their students, but in a school shooting, they cant to -blam!-.



now in utah, they can.


That's a bull -blam!- way to justify this. The way to fix this problem is to see why these guys flip, and stop them before they do. Arming the teachers asks too much of men and women who only wish to educate the young. Asking them to end the life of a child or young adult will only end in disaster.

  • 12.30.2012 9:05 PM PDT

This is gonna backfire badly one day, I can sense it.

  • 12.30.2012 9:07 PM PDT