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Subject: Which would lead to a faster scientific achievement?

Poll: Which would lead to a faster scientific achievement?  [closed]
Average Intelligence, High Determination:  47%
(31 Votes)
High Intelliegence, Average Determination:  53%
(35 Votes)
Total Votes: 66

T4R, in your opinion.

  • 12.30.2012 9:10 PM PDT

i don't understand the distinction. or what people would be "determined" to do.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 9:11 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 9:11 PM PDT

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You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.

  • 12.30.2012 9:11 PM PDT

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  • 12.30.2012 9:11 PM PDT

Posted by: crazypandarmada
You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.
nonsense. if your intellect is big enough, you can get by with a pretty darn poor ethic.

  • 12.30.2012 9:12 PM PDT


Posted by: petarded2
i don't understand the distinction. or what people would be "determined" to do.

Do you think to get a scientific achievement, e.g. nuclear fission, it is more important to be more dedicated/driven to accomplish your goal, or to have a higher mental capacity capable of handling the project?

  • 12.30.2012 9:13 PM PDT

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank god that such men lived. ----------- No Bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. (both by George S. Patton jr.)


Posted by: petarded2
Posted by: crazypandarmada
You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.
nonsense. if your intellect is big enough, you can get by with a pretty darn poor ethic.

But all scientific achievement takes time which takes a good work ethic.
You can't just stick your finger in the ground and say I discovered a new element.

  • 12.30.2012 9:15 PM PDT

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It is the like the arithmetic commutative property. It would be equal.

  • 12.30.2012 9:16 PM PDT
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If you're too determined you may not be intelligent enough to know when to give up.

  • 12.30.2012 9:17 PM PDT


Posted by: IslocStarkiller
It is the like the arithmetic commutative property. It would be equal.

Not necessarily.

Though at the moment the poll seems to agree with you.

  • 12.30.2012 9:17 PM PDT
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High intellect. You'll never find someone with an average intellect discovering the next big thing.

  • 12.30.2012 9:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Noobkilla73
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For scientific discovery?

Manufacturing, maybe, but science?

  • 12.30.2012 9:28 PM PDT

Posted by: crazypandarmada
Posted by: petarded2
Posted by: crazypandarmada
You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.
nonsense. if your intellect is big enough, you can get by with a pretty darn poor ethic.

But all scientific achievement takes time which takes a good work ethic.
an intelligent person would figure something out faster. i'd agree that it will take *some* persistence to accomplish anything, but it isn't required that the persistence is outstanding.

  • 12.30.2012 9:33 PM PDT

I'm surprised at the lack of discussion despite the closeness of the poll.

  • 12.30.2012 9:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?

I'd say determination. Even with average intellect, you can still learn enough about almost any subject provided you have the determination and dedication.

And with that knowledge, you experiment and learn more.

  • 12.30.2012 9:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Noobkilla73
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  • 12.30.2012 11:45 PM PDT

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Average intelligence but high determination lead to the Boom of America. So that.

  • 12.30.2012 11:47 PM PDT
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Anyone heard the saying work smarter not harder?

  • 12.30.2012 11:51 PM PDT

Calculus calms my troubled mind

Billions of people work their asses off all day, but they won't accomplish anything unless they have the intelligence to figure things out in a creative manner. Intelligence is more important.

  • 12.31.2012 12:26 AM PDT

Jeez, the poll is still 50/50.

  • 12.31.2012 6:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: crazypandarmada
You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.


Exactly what I was thinking.

  • 12.31.2012 6:11 AM PDT

I suppose it would depend on what field it is in, but overall I would say intellect. No person with an average intellect will make the next big discovery in physics or chemistry or math. But of course you do need both.


[Edited on 12.31.2012 6:17 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 6:17 AM PDT

Average intelligence!

  • 12.31.2012 6:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: petarded2
Posted by: crazypandarmada
You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.
nonsense. if your intellect is big enough, you can get by with a pretty darn poor ethic.


This.

Plus, the smarter person isn't the one who studies all night and gets an A, but the one who doesn't study at all and gets a B.

The person with the B might be lazy, but they will find a way to do things with the least amount of effort possible. If inventing is their passion, then they will create things with minimal effort, and will have a damned good time doing it.

  • 12.31.2012 6:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: petarded2
Posted by: crazypandarmada
You could have the biggest intellect in the world but it won't do you any good if you don't have a good work ethic.
nonsense. if your intellect is big enough, you can get by with a pretty darn poor ethic.

  • 12.31.2012 7:09 AM PDT

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