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Subject: Is Energy Shielding a feasible technology for soldiers in the future?

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  • 12.30.2012 9:44 PM PDT

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Last I heard they've managed it...for small vehicles, at least, and it's too costly and takes too much power to be properly used in combat. Use for personal soldiers is still a few decades off.

We'll be getting that along with powered armor long, long before Halo, though.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 9:45 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 9:45 PM PDT

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What would be small enough to power such a thing for as long as it needs to be used?

[Edited on 12.30.2012 9:46 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 9:45 PM PDT

Doubt it.

  • 12.30.2012 9:45 PM PDT

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By the time energy shielding is developed we wont be using people to fight.

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The technology could probably exist, but not in a form that a soldier could likely use; nothing small and light enough could power it.

  • 12.30.2012 9:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Lolmenade
What would be small enough to power such a thing for as long as it needs to be used?

A mini nuclear generator though for obvious reasons its a bad idea and would end badly.

  • 12.30.2012 9:47 PM PDT


Posted by: Lolmenade
What would be small enough to power such a thing for as long as it needs to be used?


Hardened reactor case?

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Posted by: SkilPhil
By the time energy shielding is developed we wont be using people to fight.
Very likely this.

Unless there is some unforeseen paradigm shift in the way things are going, energy shielding is pretty likely, but it will be on drones, not troops.

  • 12.30.2012 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: SkilPhil
By the time energy shielding is developed we wont be using people to fight.


This is actually a good point...

  • 12.30.2012 9:48 PM PDT

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you would have to susatin the amount of outward pressure or force that a bullet only needs to do instantly.....

the power required to do that is not worth the investment...

  • 12.30.2012 9:49 PM PDT

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I doubt it. I mean, i obviously don't know anything about shield technology beyond the fact that you need a mechanism that can stop the force and penetrative power of a bullet that can be project around a surface, and maintained for periods of time. Which to me seems almost impossible to create :/

  • 12.30.2012 9:51 PM PDT
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I think it's more likely for an extremely strong synthetic material to be made. Rather than an energy shield.

  • 12.30.2012 9:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lolmenade
What would be small enough to power such a thing for as long as it needs to be used?

A mini nuclear generator though for obvious reasons its a bad idea and would end badly.


Nuclear generators use a steam system to actually generate electricity. A human-portable version of a nuclear generator is simply never going to happen in any foreseeable future.

Posted by: Cortanas Ass
I think it's more likely for an extremely strong synthetic material to be made. Rather than an energy shield.
We already have that, which is why energy shielding would be totally unnecessary.

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  • 12.30.2012 9:51 PM PDT

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How are you guys defining an 'energy shield'?

In the form of something that will deflect energy, chemical and kinetic weapons, then the answer is not in the next 50 years, at least for tanks, etc - for soldiers? Not for another 100-500 years.

The simple fact is, there is no force that can do the job safely. You could use a powerful magnetic field, but the strength required for such an application would cause the generator to tear apart from it's own forces, or at least it'd destroy anything around it.

The only feasible way we're aware of right now, is a cloud of magnetically suspended nanostructures, like carbon nanotubes, that have smart currents running through them, and which form the backing of a plasma field.

Even then, such a system would be more likely to destroy itself, harm the user, be prone to failure, require heaps of energy, and be difficult to produce.

EDIT:

The only reasonable system for the near-future is with active directed-energy (lasers & masers) self-defence weapons that can vapourise bullets and missiles.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 9:56 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 9:55 PM PDT

You know, people are only doubting it because it's out of our reach right now.

If we ever developed a energy shielding it would first be very rare and very inefficient (how we see the future right now), then special units are equipped with it and one or two human generations after that it's standard. That's just how technology always works.

And about the usefulness: There are several advantages that an energy-shield can bring that synthetic material simply can't.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 9:58 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 9:57 PM PDT


Posted by: SkilPhil
By the time energy shielding is developed we wont be using people to fight.


My personal belief is that if we stop using people to fight wars and replace them with bots, War will be more common because there won't be any shock value to it. You know what I mean? Like say you hear two people talking today: Hey did you hear how many kids died today in an ambush in Afghanistan? Yeah, a little under a dozen.. We need to bring our troops back from that ****hole already. Now imagine two people in the future: Hey did you hear what happened in Yemen? (or wherever will be in conflict?)Yeah a little over a dozen bots were destroyed in a siege. Yeah there already sending an entire company of warbots to capture so and so.. Anyways hows sally? Lol I don't know if that was a good explanation so I hope you got it

  • 12.30.2012 9:58 PM PDT

Everyone who says it is impossible should realize people 500 years ago couldn't even imagine the thing you are using right now.

  • 12.30.2012 10:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Eag1e12

Posted by: SkilPhil
By the time energy shielding is developed we wont be using people to fight.


My personal belief is that if we stop using people to fight wars and replace them with bots, War will be more common because there won't be any shock value to it. You know what I mean? Like say you hear two people talking today: Hey did you hear how many kids died today in an ambush in Afghanistan? Yeah, a little under a dozen.. We need to bring our troops back from that ****hole already. Now imagine two people in the future: Hey did you hear what happened in Yemen? (or wherever will be in conflict?)Yeah a little over a dozen bots were destroyed in a siege. Yeah there already sending an entire company of warbots to capture so and so.. Anyways hows sally? Lol I don't know if that was a good explanation so I hope you got it

Unfortunately this wont be a reality.(At least in our life times) I do engineering work in robotics such as its current application, future applications(like the next 50+ years) ,and practical applications(like military uses). They will in all likely hood be nothing more than support or supplementary to humans since the military simply wont trust something autonomous to do ground fighting since it is susceptible to EMP, hacking, and failure . Though we may see autonomous fighter jets since it is more practical to some extent. Though there will still be fighter jets that are manned by pilots.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 10:16 PM PST]

  • 12.30.2012 10:14 PM PDT

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I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Posted by: EpicOfTheEpicz
The technology could probably exist, but not in a form that a soldier could likely use; nothing small and light enough could power it.
Maybe to shield military headquarters close to the front lines, but that will be about it for probably hundreds of years.

  • 12.30.2012 10:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: SkilPhil
By the time energy shielding is developed we wont be using people to fight.


My personal belief is that if we stop using people to fight wars and replace them with bots, War will be more common because there won't be any shock value to it. You know what I mean? Like say you hear two people talking today: Hey did you hear how many kids died today in an ambush in Afghanistan? Yeah, a little under a dozen.. We need to bring our troops back from that ****hole already. Now imagine two people in the future: Hey did you hear what happened in Yemen? (or wherever will be in conflict?)Yeah a little over a dozen bots were destroyed in a siege. Yeah there already sending an entire company of warbots to capture so and so.. Anyways hows sally? Lol I don't know if that was a good explanation so I hope you got it

I get what you mean, no one cares about robots being destroyed. The thing is the 'robots' used today are still designed to kill people. Its just safer to defend yourself with other robots. People used to be the first line of defence, they are gradually becoming the last.

  • 12.30.2012 10:21 PM PDT

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  • 12.30.2012 10:22 PM PDT
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Not energy shielding maybe in a few decades. I'm thinking they're going to develop kinetic dissipating armor before energy shielding devices.

They have a material right now that is soft until hit by a high velocity object then it hardens on the impact zone dissipating the energy evenly around the Point of impact.

link to liquid armor. Still in testing.

[Edited on 12.30.2012 10:41 PM PST]

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