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Subject: Best Batman Movie?

hmm

The Dark Knight because Heath Ledger.

  • 12.31.2012 4:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
I really don't get the hate for TDKR. I mean sure, it wasn't on par with TDK, but it certainly was better than Begins and the other 80s versions.

Is it because the director didn't spoon feed you every aspect of the plot? Therefore you have to jump the bandwagon and spout plot holes at the movie like a gibbering idiot?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Begins had the biggest flaw and the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.

  • 12.31.2012 4:52 AM PDT

A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal.

And from FOX, two phantoms were born.

Begins.

  • 12.31.2012 4:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: darthnazgul
Begins had the biggest flaw and the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.


It did?

  • 12.31.2012 4:56 AM PDT

Alright... who voted for Batman and Robin?

  • 12.31.2012 4:58 AM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.


Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: darthnazgul
Begins had the biggest flaw and the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.


It did?

Honestly, I'm surprised so few people notice.

It's the microwave emitter. Now, allow me to tell you a little something about science and movies. They rarely get it right but they don't have to. As long as they're not failing the most basic forms of it, I can ignore flaws in science for the sake of the narrative. The key to believability is consistency. Batman Begins fails in that regard.

so the way the microwave emitter works is that it causes vaporization of water, turning it into steam. In the climax of the film, the villains intend to vaporize the water supply of all of Gotham which contains a fear toxin. They have been dumping this into the waters for weeks, maybe even months. The entire water supply of Gotham is laced with it and they dismiss that we haven't felt the effects because it has to be vaporized.

There are tens of millions of people in Gotham. How many of those people, per day would vaporize their water? For cooking, making tea or coffee, baths, showers or just a plain old need for hot water? You don't need microwaves to vaporize water, people do that all the time and there is no way in a city as big as Gotham that nobody went crazy or notice anyone going crazy for weeks. There would be an epidemic, reports would come in every minute. And yet not until the magic microwave emitter comes along does water turn into steam.

That is basic science, I learned it when I played with the water taps when I was a kid.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 4:59 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 4:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: darthnazgul

Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: darthnazgul
Begins had the biggest flaw and the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.


It did?

Honestly, I'm surprised so few people notice.

It's the microwave emitter. Now, allow me to tell you a little something about science and movies. They rarely get it right but they don't have to. As long as they're not failing the most basic forms of it, I can ignore flaws in science for the sake of the narrative. The key to believability is consistency. Batman Begins fails in that regard.

so the way the microwave emitter works is that it causes vaporization of water, turning it into steam. In the climax of the film, the villains intend to vaporize the water supply of all of Gotham which contains a fear toxin. They have been dumping this into the waters for weeks, maybe even months. The entire water supply of Gotham is laced with it and they dismiss that we haven't felt the effects because it has to be vaporized.

There are tens of millions of people in Gotham. How many of those people, per day would vaporize their water? For cooking, making tea or coffee, baths, showers or just a plain old need for hot water? You don't need microwaves to vaporize water, people do that all the time and there is no way in a city as big as Gotham that nobody went crazy or notice anyone going crazy for weeks. There would be an epidemic, reports would come in every minute. And yet not until the magic microwave emitter comes along does water turn into steam.

That is basic science, I learned it when I played with the water taps when I was a kid.


Ah yes the microwave emitter. I knew about that rather inconsistency. It's obvious that Chris Nolan is no scientists. But in my opinion, it was a nice attempt at combining the scarecrows fear gas with the League of Shadow's attack.

But, I can look past scientific inconsistencies like that for one reason. It's a movie, which I enjoy. (Hell I'm watching it right now)

  • 12.31.2012 5:01 AM PDT
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You don't get it son. This isn't a mud hole, it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.

Psh none of you have watched the dark knight returns animated which is better than all those listed by OP. Oh and believe me Ive seen every single batman movie, live action or animated, Returns stands on top.


Also, Im batman.

  • 12.31.2012 5:03 AM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.


Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: darthnazgul

Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: darthnazgul
Begins had the biggest flaw and the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.


It did?

Honestly, I'm surprised so few people notice.

It's the microwave emitter. Now, allow me to tell you a little something about science and movies. They rarely get it right but they don't have to. As long as they're not failing the most basic forms of it, I can ignore flaws in science for the sake of the narrative. The key to believability is consistency. Batman Begins fails in that regard.

so the way the microwave emitter works is that it causes vaporization of water, turning it into steam. In the climax of the film, the villains intend to vaporize the water supply of all of Gotham which contains a fear toxin. They have been dumping this into the waters for weeks, maybe even months. The entire water supply of Gotham is laced with it and they dismiss that we haven't felt the effects because it has to be vaporized.

There are tens of millions of people in Gotham. How many of those people, per day would vaporize their water? For cooking, making tea or coffee, baths, showers or just a plain old need for hot water? You don't need microwaves to vaporize water, people do that all the time and there is no way in a city as big as Gotham that nobody went crazy or notice anyone going crazy for weeks. There would be an epidemic, reports would come in every minute. And yet not until the magic microwave emitter comes along does water turn into steam.

That is basic science, I learned it when I played with the water taps when I was a kid.


Ah yes the microwave emitter. I knew about that rather inconsistency. It's obvious that Chris Nolan is no scientists. But in my opinion, it was a nice attempt at combining the scarecrows fear gas with the League of Shadow's attack.

But, I can look past scientific inconsistencies like that for one reason. It's a movie, which I enjoy. (Hell I'm watching it right now)

I can ignore scientific errors if they serve the plot instead of damage it, such as the sonar in The Dark Knight. Cell phones don't work that way but this plot point work for the story. The microwave emitter did not.

Don't get me wrong, I lurve Batman Begins. It's what got me back into Batman after. . . that.

  • 12.31.2012 5:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Batman 99
Psh none of you have watched the dark knight returns animated which is better than all those listed by OP. Oh and believe me Ive seen every single batman movie, live action or animated, Returns stands on top.


Also, Im batman.


Psh yes I have. Mask of the phantasm, Return of the Joker, Dark Knight Returns, the Batman/Superman movies, I've seen them all.

  • 12.31.2012 5:04 AM PDT

The one with Batman.

  • 12.31.2012 5:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: l Supertramp l
The one with Batman.


Yeah I loved wallance and gromit to.

  • 12.31.2012 5:06 AM PDT

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I'm the first vote for Batman 89? Oh well...

  • 12.31.2012 5:06 AM PDT
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You don't get it son. This isn't a mud hole, it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.


Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: The Batman 99
Psh none of you have watched the dark knight returns animated which is better than all those listed by OP. Oh and believe me Ive seen every single batman movie, live action or animated, Returns stands on top.


Also, Im batman.


Psh yes I have. Mask of the phantasm, Return of the Joker, Dark Knight Returns, the Batman/Superman movies, I've seen them all.


So why is it animated movies are SOO much better than live action? Under The Red Hood was so much more enjoyable than batman begins. Mask of the Phantasm was as good as TDK and Returns was better than rises.

  • 12.31.2012 5:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Batman 99
So why is it animated movies are SOO much better than live action? Under The Red Hood was so much more enjoyable than batman begins. Mask of the Phantasm was as good as TDK and Returns was better than rises.


No love for Return of the joker? That's my favourite one.

  • 12.31.2012 5:09 AM PDT
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You don't get it son. This isn't a mud hole, it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.


Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: The Batman 99
So why is it animated movies are SOO much better than live action? Under The Red Hood was so much more enjoyable than batman begins. Mask of the Phantasm was as good as TDK and Returns was better than rises.


No love for Return of the joker? That's my favourite one.


I dont like terry. Not sure why my future self decided to train him.

  • 12.31.2012 5:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Batman 99

Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: The Batman 99
So why is it animated movies are SOO much better than live action? Under The Red Hood was so much more enjoyable than batman begins. Mask of the Phantasm was as good as TDK and Returns was better than rises.


No love for Return of the joker? That's my favourite one.


I dont like terry. Not sure why my future self decided to train him.


lolwat, I really like terry as Batman. And the Joker is much more terrifying in ROTJ than in the normal animated series. And his design is better to, which I'm glad they used for his appearances in the justice league (unlimited) show

  • 12.31.2012 5:14 AM PDT

A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal.

And from FOX, two phantoms were born.


Posted by: The Batman 99
Psh none of you have watched the dark knight returns animated which is better than all those listed by OP. Oh and believe me Ive seen every single batman movie, live action or animated, Returns stands on top.


Also, Im batman.



I want to watch it.

I have for a while.

  • 12.31.2012 5:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kai Hiwatari

Posted by: The Batman 99
Psh none of you have watched the dark knight returns animated which is better than all those listed by OP. Oh and believe me Ive seen every single batman movie, live action or animated, Returns stands on top.


Also, Im batman.



I want to watch it.

I have for a while.


google

  • 12.31.2012 5:24 AM PDT

GOAT

Batman begins.. or TDK..


Man I gotta vote TDK.

  • 12.31.2012 5:25 AM PDT
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You don't get it son. This isn't a mud hole, it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.


Posted by: Kai Hiwatari

Posted by: The Batman 99
Psh none of you have watched the dark knight returns animated which is better than all those listed by OP. Oh and believe me Ive seen every single batman movie, live action or animated, Returns stands on top.


Also, Im batman.



I want to watch it.

I have for a while.


here. Its a great movie. If you read the graphic novel it follows it pretty well.

  • 12.31.2012 5:26 AM PDT
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And I don't give a damn if you don't like me Cause I don't like you Cause you're not like me And I don't give a damn if you don't like me Cause I don't like you Cause you're not like me And I don't give a damn if you don't like me Cause I don't like you Cause you're not like me And I don't give a damn if you don't like me Cause I don't like you Cause you're not like me


Can not be touched.


Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
Under The Red Hood.

  • 12.31.2012 5:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Batman 99
here. Its a great movie. If you read the graphic novel it follows it pretty well.


Looking forward to part 2. Bring it on superman you little -blam!-.

  • 12.31.2012 5:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Batman 99
So why is it animated movies are SOO much better than live action? Under The Red Hood was so much more enjoyable than batman begins. Mask of the Phantasm was as good as TDK and Returns was better than rises.

Opinions, opinions everywhere.

  • 12.31.2012 5:29 AM PDT
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You don't get it son. This isn't a mud hole, it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.


Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

Posted by: The Batman 99
here. Its a great movie. If you read the graphic novel it follows it pretty well.


Looking forward to part 2. Bring it on superman you little -blam!-.


I admit it though. I have herpes.

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  • 12.31.2012 5:31 AM PDT

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