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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
>Iron man 2 sucked
>Thor sucked
>Hulk sucked
>Captain America Sucked
>Avengers was incredibly overrated

This thread isn't about individual opinions. It's an undeniable fact that, regardless of what you personally think about the film quality, Marvel has translated incredibly successfully to the cinema-verse, and DC hasn't.


The only one to have an actual movie in recent times is Batman. And look how well the dark knight trilogy has done. And with the man of steel coming out next year, which also looks really good, obviously more DC heroes will follow suit.


P.S It better be the flash

It won't.

  • 12.31.2012 9:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: DarkBen64
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I can't see superman ever properly working in a film since he's just too powerful for there to be any real sense of peril.

I mean Kryptonite had to be made up by the writers later on because they realised that he had literally no weakness.

  • 12.31.2012 9:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: teh Chaz
I can't see superman ever properly working in a film since he's just too powerful for there to be any real sense of peril.

I mean Kryptonite had to be made up by the writers later on because they realised that he had literally no weakness.


I can't see the dark knight working properly in a film since he's just alot stronger than teh joker for there to be any real sense of peril.

Oh wait...

  • 12.31.2012 9:44 AM PDT

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In actuality its because Marvel's characters translate better to the screen. Of DC's lineup, only Batman isn't so hokey that he ends up being a joke. Marvel's characters, in contrast, are pretty complex. They have their own internal strengths and weaknesses. Tony Stark was an Alcoholic, Hulk can't control himself, Captain America believes in the America of the 40's, and frequently is at odds with the America of the 2000's.

I could keep going on and on. Look at DC's line-up. Superman. Invincible alien do-gooder. That's it. Green Lantern, space-cop with a green ring that can do anything. Flash, the fastest man on Earth, arrogant....

Only Batman is as complex a character as a Marvel hero.

  • 12.31.2012 9:49 AM PDT

Marvel movies aren't that good. They just make a lot of money.

The Batman trilogy was better than all of them. But a JL movie? eh

  • 12.31.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gold Rogue Guy
Marvel movies aren't that good. They just make a lot of money.

The Batman trilogy was better than all of them. But a JL movie? eh
"Aren't good" is subjective. My opinion differs from yours.

Now, I can say, objectively, that more people find the Marvel Universe movies good than the DC Universe, because the Marvel movies made more money at the box office.

  • 12.31.2012 9:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Posted by: teh Chaz
I can't see superman ever properly working in a film since he's just too powerful for there to be any real sense of peril.

I mean Kryptonite had to be made up by the writers later on because they realised that he had literally no weakness.

I can't see the dark knight working properly in a film since he's just alot stronger than teh joker for there to be any real sense of peril.

Oh wait...

If that was supposed to be analogy, it was bad and you should feel bad. Your logic is horrible.

The problem with Superman is, he's too good. He has super strength and super speed and bullets bounce off him and he has x-ray vision and can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes. That sounds like a joke description of a spoof superhero, but no, it's all true. He's invincible. The writers had to make up a magical material as his weakness, for crying out loud.

Batman, on the other hand, is the opposite. He's not invincible. He doesn't even have any superpowers. He's always in peril, one gunshot to the face would kill him. He almost lost a fight against the Joker and two dogs. The fact that he's so clearly human, while Superman is flat-out ridiculous, is why moviegoers tend to flock to the former's film far more than the latter's.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 10:00 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 9:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: annoyinginge
Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Posted by: teh Chaz
I can't see superman ever properly working in a film since he's just too powerful for there to be any real sense of peril.

I mean Kryptonite had to be made up by the writers later on because they realised that he had literally no weakness.

I can't see the dark knight working properly in a film since he's just alot stronger than teh joker for there to be any real sense of peril.

Oh wait...

If that was supposed to be analogy, it was bad and you should feel bad. Your logic is horrible.

The problem with Superman is, he's too good. He has super strength and super speed and bullets bounce off him and he has x-ray vision and can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes. That sounds like a joke description of a spoof superhero, but no, it's all true. He's invincible. The writers had to make up a magical material as his weakness, for crying out loud.

Batman, on the other hand, is the opposite. He's not invincible. He doesn't even have any superpowers. He almost lost a fight against the Joker and two dogs. The fact that he's so clearly human, while Superman is flat-out ridiculous, is why moviegoers tend to flock to the former's film far more than the latter's.


My point was just because Superman is strong, doesn't mean there can't be a psychological threat, like Lex Luthor, or even a physical threat like Darkseid.

  • 12.31.2012 9:59 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

  • 12.31.2012 10:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Posted by: annoyinginge
Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Posted by: teh Chaz
I can't see superman ever properly working in a film since he's just too powerful for there to be any real sense of peril.

I mean Kryptonite had to be made up by the writers later on because they realised that he had literally no weakness.

I can't see the dark knight working properly in a film since he's just alot stronger than teh joker for there to be any real sense of peril.

Oh wait...

If that was supposed to be analogy, it was bad and you should feel bad. Your logic is horrible.

The problem with Superman is, he's too good. He has super strength and super speed and bullets bounce off him and he has x-ray vision and can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes. That sounds like a joke description of a spoof superhero, but no, it's all true. He's invincible. The writers had to make up a magical material as his weakness, for crying out loud.

Batman, on the other hand, is the opposite. He's not invincible. He doesn't even have any superpowers. He almost lost a fight against the Joker and two dogs. The fact that he's so clearly human, while Superman is flat-out ridiculous, is why moviegoers tend to flock to the former's film far more than the latter's.

My point was just because Superman is strong, doesn't mean there can't be a psychological threat, like Lex Luthor, or even a physical threat like Darkseid.

I was just pointing out that your analogy was bad. I agree that there are ways Superman can be threatened. But between the two, Batman is clearly the one you'd worry for more.

  • 12.31.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

The Amazing Spider-Man. There, I just listed the entire film collection that is DC's cinematic universe.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 10:05 AM PST]

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

And what were these bad Marvel movies?


Iron Man 2
Thor
Hulk
Captain America

  • 12.31.2012 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
Posted by: Air of the Rose
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

And what were these bad Marvel movies?

Iron Man 2
Thor
Hulk
Captain America

I know you haven't seen it, but I have to clarify that The Green Lantern was leagues below all of those. And Iron Man 2 wasn't "bad", it just wasn't as good as the massively successful first film had hyped it up to be.

  • 12.31.2012 10:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000

>Avengers was incredibly overrated


Incredibly.
Made me feel like I was watching one of those tv shows on mtv where all the spoiled teenagers have to get along.

  • 12.31.2012 10:06 AM PDT
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Most of the DC heroes are incredibly lame IMO. Except for Batman and Superman.

  • 12.31.2012 10:07 AM PDT
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Marvel is the -blam!-, DC has nothing on them.

  • 12.31.2012 10:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
>Avengers was incredibly overrated

Incredibly.
Made me feel like I was watching one of those tv shows on mtv where all the spoiled teenagers have to get along.

I'd disagree massively, but ignoring our individual opinions, there's no denying it was an incredibly successful film.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 10:08 AM PST]

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Posted by: annoyinginge
I know you haven't seen it, but I have to clarify that The Green Lantern was leagues below all of those. And Iron Man 2 wasn't "bad", it just wasn't as good as the massively successful first film had hyped it up to be.


Well, that means in recent times, out of a total of 4 moves (soon to be 5) there were 3 great ones and one atrocious one.

With marvel, there was 1 good one, 1 decent one and three bad ones.

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Posted by: annoyinginge
Posted by: t0ast n jam
Posted by: The Fat Man 3000
>Avengers was incredibly overrated

Incredibly.
Made me feel like I was watching one of those tv shows on mtv where all the spoiled teenagers have to get along.

I'd disagree massively, but ignoring our individual opinions, there's no denying it was an incredibly successful film.


Oh definitely. Which is why I find it to be overrated. It's a good film, but not one which deserved all the praise it got.

  • 12.31.2012 10:09 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Air of the Rose
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

And what were these bad Marvel movies?

Starting from the comic book movie boom in 2000 there's: Daredevil, Hulk, Punisher, Blade: Trinity, Elektra, Fantastic Four, X-Men 3, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, Fantastic Four 2, The Incredible Hulk. I'm tempted to put Thor on there too because it's bad, but that'll start its own argument. Most others classify as just okay, then a couple good ones, and one great one with Avengers.

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  • 12.31.2012 10:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: Air of the Rose
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

And what were these bad Marvel movies?

Starting from the comic book movie boom in 2000 there's: Daredevil, Hulk, Punisher, Blade: Trinity, Elektra, Fantastic Four, X-Men 3, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, Fantastic Four 2, The Incredible Hulk. I'm tempted to put Thor on there too because it's bad, but that'll start its own argument.


That's alot of marvel movies.

  • 12.31.2012 10:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: Air of the Rose
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Marvel's movie plan in the last decade or so has been to throw movies at audiences and let the few good ones stand up and the bad ones just fall to the way side. DC has gone with less quantity and arguably more quality. The good DC movies are better than the good Marvel movies, but Marvel has more good movies than DC.

And what were these bad Marvel movies?

Starting from the comic book movie boom in 2000 there's: Daredevil, Hulk, Punisher, Blade: Trinity, Elektra, Fantastic Four, X-Men 3, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, Fantastic Four 2, The Incredible Hulk. I'm tempted to put Thor on there too because it's bad, but that'll start its own argument.


Out of everything you just listed only the Incredible Hulk is a part of the Marvel Movie Verse. Everything else are movies made by random companies who bought the rights to the characters, they're irrelevant.

  • 12.31.2012 10:19 AM PDT

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