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Subject: Artificial insemination donor is being sued for child support

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How do they even know that he has money to give? He might have other kids to take care of. People will make up anything just to get money. This is bullcrap.
The women aren't suing him, the state is.

When a single mother applies for state aid, the state often tries to recoup its costs by suing the father.


Don't the women have to tell the state about their situation and that they need money?


They applied for medicare for the kid. This is pretty common. The state law said they had to list the father on the birth certificate, since Kansas doesn't recognize civil unions.


Do the have to take money from the guy? Or does the state force him to pay?
That's state politics for you. Many states, California included, have problems providing assistance for children when they can't recover the cost. So, what they do is calculate the minimum child support, and then sue the father on the assumption he hasn't paid anything.

The officials go after them like they are deadbeat dads.

  • 12.31.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888

In this case, I highly doubt the women or the sperm donor are committing anything remotely fraudulent.


I was young and naive too once.

  • 12.31.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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this being put up by a ninja...

OT: this is ridiculous, the brat might be his but he was a DONOR, not a parent. it would only make sense if A: 1 chick was bi, or B: he helped raise the kid. why should he pay support and not the other lesb?

  • 12.31.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888

In this case, I highly doubt the women or the sperm donor are committing anything remotely fraudulent.


I was young and naive too once.
Did you even read the article? The women aren't suing the donor for child support, the state of Kansas is.

  • 12.31.2012 9:53 AM PDT

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OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.

"Hey, I want to make someone else happy by donating my seed. I sure hope this doesn't come back to bite me!"

>a few years later

"Hey! I have to pay child support? But I'm not married and I don't even know who these two are!

===

Why is this even happening?

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this being put up by a ninja...

OT: this is ridiculous, the brat might be his but he was a DONOR, not a parent. it would only make sense if A: 1 chick was bi,
What does orientation have to do with this?

  • 12.31.2012 9:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888

In this case, I highly doubt the women or the sperm donor are committing anything remotely fraudulent.


I was young and naive too once.
Did you even read the article? The women aren't suing the donor for child support, the state of Kansas is.
Or is that what they want you to think?

  • 12.31.2012 9:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: copaka12
this being put up by a ninja...

OT: this is ridiculous, the brat might be his but he was a DONOR, not a parent. it would only make sense if A: 1 chick was bi,
What does orientation have to do with this?


I think he's trying to say that the baby is his problem if the mother was bi-blam!-.
He's wrong.

  • 12.31.2012 9:55 AM PDT

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"Hey, I want to make someone else happy by donating my seed. I sure hope this doesn't come back to bite me!"

>a few years later

"Hey! I have to pay child support? But I'm not married and I don't even know who these two are!

===

Why is this even happening?
Because he didn't donate sperm to a sperm bank, he responded to a Craigslist article. He signed a contract with the women relieving him of all legal responsibility. In the state of Kansas, if it is not performed by a physician, the contract is void, and now they're going after the donor.

  • 12.31.2012 9:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sergeant Kyuun
"Hey, I want to make someone else happy by donating my seed. I sure hope this doesn't come back to bite me!"

>a few years later

"Hey! I have to pay child support? But I'm not married and I don't even know who these two are!

===

Why is this even happening?


I wonder what the guy's wife feels about this. He's married, ad was so at the time of conception.

  • 12.31.2012 9:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Frnksnbns

Posted by: MadMax888

In this case, I highly doubt the women or the sperm donor are committing anything remotely fraudulent.


I was young and naive too once.
Did you even read the article? The women aren't suing the donor for child support, the state of Kansas is.


Do you even read the comments in this thread? Go look at my FIRST comment here.

  • 12.31.2012 9:56 AM PDT


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Do the have to take money from the guy? Or does the state force him to pay?

That's state politics for you. Many states, California included, have problems providing assistance for children when they can't recover the cost. So, what they do is calculate the minimum child support, and then sue the father on the assumption he hasn't paid anything.

The officials go after them like they are deadbeat dads.


Assuming he has the money to pay. I don't know much about this stuff but if he can't do they like take it out of his account every month? The State I mean.

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Posted by: MadMax888

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Posted by: MadMax888

In this case, I highly doubt the women or the sperm donor are committing anything remotely fraudulent.


I was young and naive too once.
Did you even read the article? The women aren't suing the donor for child support, the state of Kansas is.


Do you even read the comments in this thread? Go look at my FIRST comment here.
I did. I even responded to that comment directly. I'm not sure how anything in this case could be constituted as "fraud".

Please clarify why you think this is fraudulent.

This clearly is a Kansas problem, not a "47%" problem. Stop making this about GOP talking points.

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  • 12.31.2012 9:58 AM PDT
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What kind of moron would arrange to donate sperm on craigslist? I really do not feel bad for him if he is that dumb.

  • 12.31.2012 9:58 AM PDT
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I understand nothing because my life is a conspiracy.

I feel bad for the guy; He did those two women a favor, and this is what he gets for it.

  • 12.31.2012 9:59 AM PDT

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Do the have to take money from the guy? Or does the state force him to pay?

That's state politics for you. Many states, California included, have problems providing assistance for children when they can't recover the cost. So, what they do is calculate the minimum child support, and then sue the father on the assumption he hasn't paid anything.

The officials go after them like they are deadbeat dads.


Assuming he has the money to pay. I don't know much about this stuff but if he can't do they like take it out of his account every month? The State I mean.
Oh, they won't care if can pay it or not. They will just take the money and give him the finger when he says they took too much. The state can be brutal in this situation. 99 times out of a 100 the public cheers them on for doing so.

Like I said in my first post, I would bet that a low level functionary is handling this. As soon as its noticed by a person with a nameplate on the door, it'll get dropped and the functionary reprimanded.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Oh, they won't care if can pay it or not. They will just take the money and give him the finger when he says they took too much. The state can be brutal in this situation. 99 times out of a 100 the public cheers them on for doing so.

Like I said in my first post, I would bet that a low level functionary is handling this. As soon as its noticed by a person with a nameplate on the door, it'll get dropped and the functionary reprimanded.


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  • 12.31.2012 10:00 AM PDT

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  • 12.31.2012 10:02 AM PDT


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Do the have to take money from the guy? Or does the state force him to pay?

That's state politics for you. Many states, California included, have problems providing assistance for children when they can't recover the cost. So, what they do is calculate the minimum child support, and then sue the father on the assumption he hasn't paid anything.

The officials go after them like they are deadbeat dads.


Assuming he has the money to pay. I don't know much about this stuff but if he can't do they like take it out of his account every month? The State I mean.
Oh, they won't care if can pay it or not. They will just take the money and give him the finger when he says they took too much. The state can be brutal in this situation. 99 times out of a 100 the public cheers them on for doing so.

Like I said in my first post, I would bet that a low level functionary is handling this. As soon as its noticed by a person with a nameplate on the door, it'll get dropped and the functionary reprimanded.


What is the minimum that a person can give for child support?

  • 12.31.2012 10:02 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

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I wonder what the guy's wife feels about this. He's married, ad was so at the time of conception.

I can't imagine that he wouldn't have discussed the donation with his spouse before and during the donation. It seems like (based on what I have read so far) that he was sincere in wanting to assist these women and did his best to make sure that everyone's intent (that the child was the women's, and he did not want any claim or responsibility for the child) was made clear.

If he took the time to do that, I would imagine that he discussed it at length with his spouse.

This is just another example of how social interactions, biology and all of the related issues are not as binary as we (and the law) would like to imagine them to be.

As someone mentioned earlier, this is likely a matter of a faceless bureaucrat not even looking into the details and simply following established procedure (go after the biologic father). Now that it is public, some politician will likely make some calls and straighten this (pardon the pun) out. If not, when it goes to court, I suspect that the issue would be more appropriately addressed.

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deej pls

If every state at least accepted -blam!- couples as a thing, this wouldn't happen.

It's like they are ignoring the fact they exist.

  • 12.31.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888
I'm still not sure where you're getting that 47% figure from.

The claim originates from Mitt Romney on the amount of Americans that receive government assistance.

Which is factual - but it includes Social Security and Medicare - programs that the recipients have in theory at least partially paid into.

Only 35% of Americans receive means-tested assistance (food stamps, Medicaid, etc.).

  • 12.31.2012 10:08 AM PDT

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I wonder what the guy's wife feels about this. He's married, ad was so at the time of conception.

I can't imagine that he wouldn't have discussed the donation with his spouse before and during the donation. It seems like (based on what I have read so far) that he was sincere in wanting to assist these women and did his best to make sure that everyone's intent (that the child was the women's, and he did not want any claim or responsibility for the child) was made clear.

If he took the time to do that, I would imagine that he discussed it at length with his spouse.

This is just another example of how social interactions, biology and all of the related issues are not as binary as we (and the law) would like to imagine them to be.

As someone mentioned earlier, this is likely a matter of a faceless bureaucrat not even looking into the details and simply following established procedure (go after the biologic father). Now that it is public, some politician will likely make some calls and straighten this (pardon the pun) out. If not, when it goes to court, I suspect that the issue would be more appropriately addressed.


Indeed. I would not want to be that functionary. Though I would love to be in the office when he is trying to justify his "just following procedure."

But, I mean if this has strained the relationship with the guy's wife. In truth, we don't know who the driver was in this decision. It could have been the guy, it could also have been his wife. But, either way, being told you are on the hook for back support WILL put a dent in a relationship.

  • 12.31.2012 10:30 AM PDT

No way I'm having kids outside of marriage.

  • 12.31.2012 11:14 AM PDT