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Subject: Why is Skyrim's combat fun if it's so shallow and simple?
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From: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
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I really like both Morrowind and Skyrim's combat system, I don't know why, they are so shallow and simple. Why?

  • 12.31.2012 11:55 AM PDT
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That's precisely why I hate Skyrim's combat.

  • 12.31.2012 11:56 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Because simple things are fun.

  • 12.31.2012 11:56 AM PDT
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The combat system in The Elder Scrolls is god awful.

  • 12.31.2012 11:56 AM PDT
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It's fun it doesn't need to be over complicated.

  • 12.31.2012 11:57 AM PDT

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I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D

Because Skyrim's combat is awful.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 11:57 AM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 11:57 AM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."

I prefered Morrowind's because it was basically dice rolling. Why would I like that? I'm a fan of Dungeons and Dragons, and other tabletop games. I enjoy the occasional randomized system in single-player games.

  • 12.31.2012 11:57 AM PDT

"Hello. My name is Stephen Hawking. Physicist, cosmologist, and something of a dreamer. Although I cannot move, and I have to speak through a computer, in my mind, I am free. Free to explore the universe, and ask the big questions."

Just because they are simple at the surface doesn't mean there isn't a degree of complexity underneath.
I can't speak for Morrowind, having just gotten it on the Steam sale, but as for Skyrim, it is a form of combat that rewards mobility and using the environment to your advantage. It definitely feels rewarding to dodge arrows, or, in the midst of a duel with one swordsman, stop another one from running up with a Shout.

  • 12.31.2012 11:57 AM PDT
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They really aren't that shallow.

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Posted by: Xanarxses
The combat system in The Elder Scrolls is god awful.


And you are going to hate me for this, but I think Morrowind has the best combat in The Elder Scrolls, while Skyrim is second.

  • 12.31.2012 11:58 AM PDT
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Because the kill moves are class.

  • 12.31.2012 12:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rabid Grunt 3
Because the kill moves are class.


I'm talking about the actual combat. It just feels fun. Morrowind's combat is a lot more fun, though. Morrowind=Best RPG Combat ever. Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.

  • 12.31.2012 12:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09

Posted by: Xanarxses
The combat system in The Elder Scrolls is god awful.


And you are going to hate me for this, but I think Morrowind has the best combat in The Elder Scrolls, while Skyrim is second.
I wouldn't say the combat in any of the the Elder Scrolls games is exactly good, but Skyrim's is the worst out of the last three games, IMO, once you remove the window dressing like finishing moves and dual wielding, it's the most dumbed down.

Hand to hand has been removed entirely for no apparent reason.. I also think melee and archery are both seriously under powered compared to magic.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 12:07 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 12:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.
Have you played Dark Souls?

  • 12.31.2012 12:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: ImOnTheDole
That's precisely why I hate Skyrim's combat.

  • 12.31.2012 12:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: ImOnTheDole

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.
Have you played Dark Souls?


No, but I heard it's incredibly hard. I heard Demon Souls is even harder than Dark Souls.

  • 12.31.2012 12:10 PM PDT
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From: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
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I don't understand why I like the Elder Scrolls combat systems a lot at all. Even just mindlessly stabbing and shooting enemies is fun.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 12:23 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 12:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.
Have you played Dark Souls?
I've been playing it a ton lately and there's no way I can ever go back to Skyrim now.

  • 12.31.2012 12:31 PM PDT
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From: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
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I guess maybe it's so good, because sometimes the simplest things can be best.

  • 12.31.2012 12:32 PM PDT

心の中に弱い風が吹いています。

Because just slicing the -blam!- out of everything is loads of fun.

  • 12.31.2012 12:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
I guess maybe it's so good, because sometimes the simplest things can be best.


Kind of like how Mario probably has one of the simplest combat systems ever, but one of the most fun and one of the most popular.


[Edited on 12.31.2012 12:36 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 12:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: ImOnTheDole
Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.
Have you played Dark Souls?
I've been playing it a ton lately and there's no way I can ever go back to Skyrim now.
Dark Souls has excellent combat and atmosphere, but I think it's only very loosely an RPG. I would describe it more as open world action/adventure. Not that I mean to deride it, I just think that the two can't be compared.

  • 12.31.2012 12:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Snake Plissken

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Posted by: ImOnTheDole
Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.
Have you played Dark Souls?
I've been playing it a ton lately and there's no way I can ever go back to Skyrim now.
Dark Souls has excellent combat and atmosphere, but I think it's only very loosely an RPG. I would describe it more as open world action/adventure. Not that I mean to deride it, I just think that the two can't be compared.


It looks kind of fun. IDK if it looks as good as Skyrim though.

  • 12.31.2012 12:38 PM PDT


Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09

Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.


Well if you like simple, dumbed down, hack & slash button-mashing that requires little to no strategy and tactical effort coupled with bad ai, a shallow variety in weapon types, lack luster hit sounds, and absolutely laughable animations for swinging around things then okay. That's fine. You have every right to like it. But by no means does skyrim contain the best combat system in an rpg ever or even comes close for that matter.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 12:40 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 12:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Blacknight159

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09

Skyrim is one of the best RPG combat system ever.


Well if you like simple, dumbed down, hack & slash button-mashing that requires little to no strategy and tactical effort coupled with bad ai, a shallow variety in weapon types, lack lack luster hit sounds, and absolutely laughable animations for swinging around things then okay. That's fine. You have every right to like it. But by no means does skyrim contain the best combat system in an rpg ever or even comes close for that matter.


That's not why I like it. I just fun, for some reason.

  • 12.31.2012 12:39 PM PDT