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Subject: The Xbox 360 is leading the fall of the gaming industry


Posted by: Negative 9
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Forza Horizon.

  • 12.31.2012 1:29 PM PDT


Posted by: Connor CMC
This is a zionist plot by OP to get people to quote him!


Pretty much this because he is using an ad nauseam to get people quote him back and forth.

  • 12.31.2012 1:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.


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I can't take an opinion seriously when it bashes on company about hurting the industry and then plugs steam sales as one of his points.

I don't need you to take anything seriously because you're only here to bash one point that I made with nothing to back you up.

No, I read that and stopped reading. Steam sales help the consumer not the industry, thus plugging steam as an example for MS to stop hurting the industry is not only misinformed, it prevents me from wanting to see what else you have to say.
Steam wouldn't have companies willing to do sales if it hurt the industry. Making a $100,000,000 video game, charging $60 for it regardless of the content, then charging for $15 map packs and online passes and firing half of the devs after (SURPRISE!!!) it doesn't t make its extreme budget back hurts the industry.

  • 12.31.2012 1:31 PM PDT

"The point of war is not to die for your country but to make the other son of a -blam!- die for his." George S. Patton

Posted by: Achronos
Every post whining about the weekly update delays it by 5 minutes.


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Posted by: King Leopold789
sales wise it does actually increase revenue source

Units sold =/= to money made. Yes sales surge at lower prices, but publishers make less, and sometimes take losses. Once again, pushing discounts on software doesn't help the industry, it helps the consumer. Buying games at full price helps the industry.
per sale they make less, but if you sell a -blam!- ton more than it will make up for the less percentage of profit per unit sold. if the demand was 3,000% more when the product was at half price than the overall gain is much larger than what was lost in potential revenue if less people bought it at the full price.

  • 12.31.2012 1:32 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"


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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: King Leopold789
sales wise it does actually increase revenue source

Units sold =/= to money made. Yes sales surge at lower prices, but publishers make less, and sometimes take losses. Once again, pushing discounts on software doesn't help the industry, it helps the consumer. Buying games at full price helps the industry.

You're looking at it the wrong way. People who wouldn't have bought any games in the first place are now becoming regular customers. It's about increasing your customers not about squeezing every last -blam!- penny out of two people.

Which is fine for games that do not cost millions to produce, like those in the indy market. AAA titles do not thrive on second hand and large discount sales. The many dev closures in the last two years are resultant of a loss in revenue, that happens when dev's aren't making enough to cover their dev costs. Sales do not assist with that problem.

  • 12.31.2012 1:33 PM PDT

Okay mister pessimistic.

  • 12.31.2012 1:33 PM PDT

I don't understand the attacks on the 360 as none of them have anything to do really with gaming nor is it the consoles fault.

  • 12.31.2012 1:34 PM PDT

The OP fails. He has nothing to back up his argument. It's all just opinions.

  • 12.31.2012 1:36 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"


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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: King Leopold789
sales wise it does actually increase revenue source

Units sold =/= to money made. Yes sales surge at lower prices, but publishers make less, and sometimes take losses. Once again, pushing discounts on software doesn't help the industry, it helps the consumer. Buying games at full price helps the industry.
per sale they make less, but if you sell a -blam!- ton more than it will make up for the less percentage of profit per unit sold. if the demand was 3,000% more when the product was at half price than the overall gain is much larger than what was lost in potential revenue if less people bought it at the full price.

Which is fine for larger companies that don't need to completely cover their dev costs with every title and can absorb some loss here and there. Yes, something is better than nothing but once again (and for the last time) pointing out that MS is hurting the industry and then siting steam as the OP did, which is a huge promotion ground for software on the cheap, makes little to no sense whatsoever in the context of the OP's arguement.

  • 12.31.2012 1:36 PM PDT

"The point of war is not to die for your country but to make the other son of a -blam!- die for his." George S. Patton

Posted by: Achronos
Every post whining about the weekly update delays it by 5 minutes.


Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe

Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: King Leopold789
sales wise it does actually increase revenue source

Units sold =/= to money made. Yes sales surge at lower prices, but publishers make less, and sometimes take losses. Once again, pushing discounts on software doesn't help the industry, it helps the consumer. Buying games at full price helps the industry.

You're looking at it the wrong way. People who wouldn't have bought any games in the first place are now becoming regular customers. It's about increasing your customers not about squeezing every last -blam!- penny out of two people.

Which is fine for games that do not cost millions to produce, like those in the indy market. AAA titles do not thrive on second hand and large discount sales. The many dev closures in the last two years are resultant of a loss in revenue, that happens when dev's aren't making enough to cover their dev costs. Sales do not assist with that problem.
after a year since the game has been out most people that wanted it would already have it....

people that do not necessarily want to pay the full price for a game that they think is not worth the price point are not going to pay 60$ for the game. They are going to buy the game for a cheaper price or they are not going to buy it at all. Sales do not compete with the original price point because the people buying games on sale are a different demographic than the ones that buy the game at full price.

  • 12.31.2012 1:37 PM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.


Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
Hey, let's take our innovative Wii and slap a screen on the -blam!- controller.


I lol'd at that.

  • 12.31.2012 1:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.


Posted by: Al B Querky
Take a hint from steam...where you don't actually own your games? Like that? As cheap as the games are, and if you have no self control, you'll eventually find yourself with a pile of games that you'll never play.
If Steam were to go down tomorrow, the amount of pirated PC games would skyrocket so people could get their games back, so it's not like Valve can just do whatever it wants.

... The whole liscencing a game policy does make no sense, though. Even console disks are only considered liscences even though the person owns the freaking disks.

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: King Leopold789

Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: King Leopold789
sales wise it does actually increase revenue source

Units sold =/= to money made. Yes sales surge at lower prices, but publishers make less, and sometimes take losses. Once again, pushing discounts on software doesn't help the industry, it helps the consumer. Buying games at full price helps the industry.
per sale they make less, but if you sell a -blam!- ton more than it will make up for the less percentage of profit per unit sold. if the demand was 3,000% more when the product was at half price than the overall gain is much larger than what was lost in potential revenue if less people bought it at the full price.

Which is fine for larger companies that don't need to completely cover their dev costs with every title and can absorb some loss here and there. Yes, something is better than nothing but once again (and for the last time) pointing out that MS is hurting the industry and then siting steam as the OP did, which is a huge promotion ground for software on the cheap, makes little to no sense whatsoever in the context of the OP's arguement.

You are ridiculous.

  • 12.31.2012 1:43 PM PDT

A competitive players main goal is to win.
A casuals main goal is to have fun regardless of whether that results in a win or loss.
It has nothing to do with individual skill or knowledge, it has to do with the reason you play.

Yes, Consoles are destroying gaming, PC master race bla bla bla etc.

I disagree.

  • 12.31.2012 1:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
the gaming industry will crash.

No.

Also:

Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
If this doesn't scream troll, I don't know what does.

  • 12.31.2012 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Metalignus
Yes, Consoles are destroying gaming, PC master race bla bla bla etc.

I disagree.

Guess what? Even if you could defend your point it wouldn't refute mine.

  • 12.31.2012 1:49 PM PDT

I am the Thorian, known as Species 37 to you people. I am an ancient sentient plant that is fifty thousand years old. My ability to hibernate for thousands of years makes my real age impossible to guess though you are welcome to try.

So OP, let me get this straight, you think that video game consoles, which, I might add, are made with the intentions of gaming, are destroying the gaming industry? And computers, which are mostly used for business and education, are not destroying the industry?

Wow... just wow.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 1:53 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 1:49 PM PDT

A competitive players main goal is to win.
A casuals main goal is to have fun regardless of whether that results in a win or loss.
It has nothing to do with individual skill or knowledge, it has to do with the reason you play.


Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe

Posted by: Metalignus
Yes, Consoles are destroying gaming, PC master race bla bla bla etc.

I disagree.

Guess what? Even if you could defend your point it wouldn't refute mine.


Arguing with trolls isn't really my cup of tea.

  • 12.31.2012 1:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
Just look at the Xbox 360. It's becoming a media player riddled with nothing but ads. Also, let's not forget about their fantastic "sales". AN ENTIRE 10% OFF A GAME?! WOW THANKS M$! Can't they take a hint and be more like steam?

I don't see any ads making me wait 30 seconds to play a game, so why is this an issue? Also, if you refuse to buy a game unless it's 75% off, that's your own problem.

Another example is the Wii -blam!- U. Hey, let's take our innovative Wii and slap a screen on the -blam!- controller. What a great idea! The Wii U is almost as big a failure as the Virtual Boy. Sales are pathetic and launch games are a -blam!- joke. Let's not even talk about the DS and its retarded XL -blam!-. The screen controller isn't your only option, and if a console is sold out everywhere, I don't think that qualifies as "pathetic sales." And if you didn't want to talk about the DS, why even bring it up?

PS3, however, continues to be the stale slice of bread left in the fridge that no one wants to eat. It is only the really hungry who can't find anything else that will try it. Have you even played the PS3? It sounds like you're just basing your comment on the phrase "ps3 has no gaems."

  • 12.31.2012 1:53 PM PDT

OP is deluded.

  • 12.31.2012 1:54 PM PDT


Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
Another example is the Wii -blam!- U. Hey, let's take our innovative Wii and slap a screen on the -blam!- controller. What a great idea! The Wii U is almost as big a failure as the Virtual Boy. Sales are pathetic and launch games are a -blam!- joke.
everything else I can agree with to a point, but this? you're just bashing nintendo for what it does. the formula is:

1: make a console that has a gimmick that has a lot of potential

2: everyone laughs at it for being "A retarded idea" and having weak launch titles (Except SMBU, that game is kick-ass. and Nintendoland isn't a bad party game)

3: The badass games come out, and the console does better than their competition

4: Competition brings out their own versions of the gimmick and everyone says it's innovative

5: Console is known for it's great exclusives and for being ahead of the curve

6: rinse and repeat

[Edited on 12.31.2012 2:04 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 1:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
Just look at the Xbox 360. It's becoming a media player riddled with nothing but ads. Also, let's not forget about their fantastic "sales". AN ENTIRE 10% OFF A GAME?! WOW THANKS M$! Can't they take a hint and be more like steam?

I don't see any ads making me wait 30 seconds to play a game, so why is this an issue? Also, if you refuse to buy a game unless it's 75% off, that's your own problem.

Another example is the Wii -blam!- U. Hey, let's take our innovative Wii and slap a screen on the -blam!- controller. What a great idea! The Wii U is almost as big a failure as the Virtual Boy. Sales are pathetic and launch games are a -blam!- joke. Let's not even talk about the DS and its retarded XL -blam!-. The screen controller isn't your only option, and if a console is sold out everywhere, I don't think that qualifies as "pathetic sales." And if you didn't want to talk about the DS, why even bring it up?

PS3, however, continues to be the stale slice of bread left in the fridge that no one wants to eat. It is only the really hungry who can't find anything else that will try it. Have you even played the PS3? It sounds like you're just basing your comment on the phrase "ps3 has no gaems."

The xbox is making me pay for Live AND see ads on the dash. Have you ever had xbox live before?

The wii u is a sad little attempt to be different. It can be sold out if they barely made any in the first place.

I own a PS3 and I must say it is the most bland thing in my room at the moment. Even more than my grey carpet.

  • 12.31.2012 1:59 PM PDT
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Well it looks like the troll bait isn't getting any more fish.

  • 12.31.2012 2:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: PleaseQuoteMe
The xbox is making me pay for Live AND see ads on the dash. Have you ever had xbox live before?

I do have Xbox Live. I use it to play games online, my wife uses it to watch Netflix. Neither of us have been bothered by an ad in either one of those.

If you really want to spend $60 a year to look at the dashboard, I guess I see why the ads annoy you.

The wii u is a sad little attempt to be different. It can be sold out if they barely made any in the first place.More like a successful attempt at moving forward. Launch titles don't define what a console will be.

  • 12.31.2012 2:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: SweetTRIX
Is that you, David DeMartini?

  • 12.31.2012 2:15 PM PDT

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