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Subject: What if 343 decided to nerf the DMR?

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Posted by: ANGRYDAMIEN666
I honestly would probably not like it because them nerfing that would lead to them nerfing every other rifle until each one is just a re skinning of the next. I still can't but wonder though if the BR was supposedly the best gun in Halo 4 if people would have pitched as big of a fit over it as they do the DMR.


The way I saw it, the DMR was supposed to be the gun to use during long ranged battles, and the BR was supposed to be the gun to use during short-mid ranged battles. The DMR would still dominate maps such as BTB sized maps, but I think the BR would be more prevalent on 4v4 sized maps.


And it will be I believe when or if 343 decides to put small maps into the game. The only ones we have now is Adrift and I do fine with a BR on that map. It's just the default Halo 4 maps are more prone to long range engagements.

  • 12.31.2012 2:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"


It kills faster than the other starting weapons and has sniper accuracy, how so you not see this?

How do YOU not see this is how the gun was designed and meant to be used. It's a single shot.. NO -blam!- it's going to go straight like a sniper and be accurate.

For you clowns who use the BR thinking it's a better weapon because you have your nostalgia goggles on need to realize it's not. You're shooting 3 bullets what have spread and go in random directions, do you really think that's going to be more accurate than a single bullet shooting straight? Before Halo 4 came out we knew the DMR was a more powerful and accurate weapon than the BR.

"It kills faster" what like 1/10th of a second? WOW huge difference.. If you're a better player using a BR you can easily win your battles against a player with a DMR.

Plus it's not our fault you're choosing to use a weapon what's not as good. Should they make the light rifle EXACTLY the same as the dmr/br? Should EVERY weapon in the game have the exact same amount of accuracy/damage/kill times? Seriously.

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...So the argument there is, because I'm always discussing things on this forum, there are no discussions on this forum? I'm pretty sure that out of all of the infinite number of universes, there isn't a single one where that was a logical, coherent thought.


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I literally have no clue what that even means.

  • 12.31.2012 2:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"


It kills faster than the other starting weapons and has sniper accuracy, how so you not see this?

Funny as this was the same issue with the BR in Halo's 2 and 3, and yet people used to maintain that "BR spawning" was the most balanced way to play the game.

OT, their mistake wasn't making the DMR strong, it was bringing the BR back. It really has no place in the game.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 2:55 PM PST]

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"


It kills faster than the other starting weapons and has sniper accuracy, how so you not see this?

Funny as this was the same issue with the BR in Halo's 2 and 3, and yet people used to maintain that BR starts was the most balanced way to play the game.
Halo 2 and 3 were arena shooters. Halo 4 is a class based shooter.

  • 12.31.2012 2:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx

Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: KaTaNaSaMuRaI09
Just buff the all the loadouts weapons by making them one less shot to kill, and making the Carbine 2 shots less to kill. And buff the SAW and Needler. No need for any nerfing.


I actually approve of this, that way the DMR would kill at range and we would have kill times like previous Halo games for everything else.


But this isn't a previous Halo game. It's a new one with new gameplay. Adapt or go play something else.


I have adapted, 1v1 me bro.

On a serious note, if 343 didn't want to be judged by previous titles then they shouldn't have made Halo 4, by picking up the franchise they pick up the fans and they should expect criticism.

I am not saying the game is bad though, I'm SR115 right now so I clearly enjoy it but changes could be made to improve, its far from perfect.

  • 12.31.2012 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"


It kills faster than the other starting weapons and has sniper accuracy, how so you not see this?

Funny as this was the same issue with the BR in Halo's 2 and 3, and yet people used to maintain that BR starts was the most balanced way to play the game.
Halo 2 and 3 were arena shooters. Halo 4 is a class based shooter.

Where everyone has the ability to start with the DMR do they not? The difference you mentioned means little in the context of my arguement, that people seemed to have no issue with the terribly balanced BR in those titles, but now have the similar issue with the DMR.. It makes no sense.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 2:59 PM PST]

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Your 'beliefs' mean less than dick to me.

I wouldn't be surprised. If they're going to tweak the sandbox they should buff other weapons instead.

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: ImOnTheDole

Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"


It kills faster than the other starting weapons and has sniper accuracy, how so you not see this?

Funny as this was the same issue with the BR in Halo's 2 and 3, and yet people used to maintain that BR starts was the most balanced way to play the game.
Halo 2 and 3 were arena shooters. Halo 4 is a class based shooter.

Where everyone has the ability to start with the DMR do they not? The difference you mentioned means little in the context of my arguement, that people seemed to have no issue with the terribly balanced BR in those titles, but now have the similar issue with the DMR.. It makes no sense.
There's really no such thing as "Weapon balance" in an arena shooter, because you have to take into context where those weapons were placed on the map. I will admit the assault rifle was massively underpowered, but most weapons you picked up off the map were actually useful against the BR.

Also the DMR does more than destroy weapon balance; It destroys map movement. It's basically like spawning with a sniper rifle.

  • 12.31.2012 3:04 PM PDT

Do you really want to know?

I like both, but I lean more the sexy body of the BR.

  • 12.31.2012 3:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: ImOnTheDole

Posted by: SweetTRIX

Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"


It kills faster than the other starting weapons and has sniper accuracy, how so you not see this?

Funny as this was the same issue with the BR in Halo's 2 and 3, and yet people used to maintain that BR starts was the most balanced way to play the game.
Halo 2 and 3 were arena shooters. Halo 4 is a class based shooter.

Where everyone has the ability to start with the DMR do they not? The difference you mentioned means little in the context of my arguement, that people seemed to have no issue with the terribly balanced BR in those titles, but now have the similar issue with the DMR.. It makes no sense.


If you played team BRs then everyone had one and yes, it was the most effective weapon but there were gametypes that gave other weapons a chance, therefore more variety. The difference in Halo 4 is that there is a big sandbox of load out weapons that are all overshadowed by the effectiveness of the DMR so if you want to do well against better players you are forced to use it.

This isn't good for gameplay.

  • 12.31.2012 3:06 PM PDT

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I'll still be using light rifle or br.

Still don't understand the dmr complaints, I've never had much trouble against it.

  • 12.31.2012 3:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: ImOnTheDole
Also the DMR does more than destroy weapon balance; It destroys map movement. It's basically like spawning with a sniper rifle.
This is more of an issue with the maps themselves not the DMR. Giving players weapons that shoot straight on maps abundant with long sightlines is just a bad combo. Couple this with the random weapon spawns the player has little incentive to move about the map.

  • 12.31.2012 3:09 PM PDT

It wouldn't matter to me if they did or didn't.

  • 12.31.2012 3:10 PM PDT

I would use the Carbine. Since it is superior to all the weapons in a perfect situation.

  • 12.31.2012 3:11 PM PDT

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I'd probably start using the BR more often.

  • 12.31.2012 3:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I would probably stop playing Halo 4. I get so sick and tired of developers who cave into idiots who cry about everything. Just because you play a damn game, doesn't mean you know the what the -blam!- you're talking about. You're not a game developer so SHUT UP!

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! It killed me so it's over powered! WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"
Normally im in your corner, but this is not the case, even I can tell the dmr is too strong. And I'll probably sell the game if it becomes an all out br fest like the -blam!- hole halo 3. But, the carbine and light rifle still out class the br on maps such as haven, The BR just has the ease of use. Light rifle and carbine both kill faster you just have to actually hit all the carbine shots and zoom in one shot with the light rifle.

  • 12.31.2012 3:12 PM PDT

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I would probably play Halo even less than I do now.

  • 12.31.2012 3:13 PM PDT

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