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Subject: Official thread for reasons why some of us don't like Halo 4.

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.

Before we start this, If you are a fanboy and feel like leaving a nasty comment, press the arrow that is pointing left on the left top corner of the screen. No one cares about your opinion if you are just going to be insulting and especially not caring of others. This isn't a troll post or was it intended to piss you off.

It seems to me the people who enjoy the game, don't know why we dislike it so much. I am going to talk about every part of the game that the community that dislike it shares. I am tired of seeing Halo 4 hate threads on the flood constantly and feel like making one thread officially about it and hopefully it will stop the multiple threads that are made daily about Halo 4.

Let us start with Campaign.

Campaign: the story is terrible and the gameplay for it is the problem. There are too many buttons to press. Yes, too many buttons and inserting of cortana. You literally, on one level have to press a button to turn on the bridge to press another button. 2X you have to do that. Really? Did they not listen from the outcry from Halo Reach, that it had too many buttons to press in the first place? No they decided to add more to it. Quick time events are bad and if you enjoy them you should feel bad.

For the people who love going outside the maps and wondering about the maps, you can't do that anymore. The rocks are slippery and there are kill barriers restricting you from doing anything outside the map.

Campaign scoring and theater mode. Nothing needs to be said here just adds less replayability to the campaign.

Ai, is the worst than any Halo I have ever seen. They don't try to dodge, sometimes just sitting there taking bullets like sponges, the prometheans are the only ones who act a bit aggressive at times. None of the enemies have variations to melee and none of the animations were improved from the last game like they should. All they did was copy and paste the animations from the last games engine to identical enemies and only upgraded the graphics. The banshee pilots are just laughable. They fly straight into the walls or ground if you so much look at them, trying to dig their own graves.

Multiplayer:
The biggest problem is map movement or reasons for them. There is no reason for map movement anymore. Guns spawn randomly on the map and you will get rewarded with powerups from getting points. Pretty much the reason for map movement now? Getting kills but you can do the same by camping.

Pre-game lobbies, you can start out with uneven teams, even when you stay in a lobby.
Thanks BROWN HAWK!

Join in Progress, causes you to join late in a game where you are losing, badly. Ruins reasons to win a game or to care about W/L even with or without ranks.



Weapon/perks progressive unlocks, this has got to be one of the stupidest things that has gone into a shooter that is suppose to be an arena shooter. This game is not an arena shooter and should not be classified as one. This destroys any type of balance between you and the player. This destroys the reason I played multiplayer Halo in the first place. Everyone could spawn with the same weapon without having to rank up. It just destroys the idea of a even playing field and makes the game more random, yes, more random than Reach. I would say, the same amount of random as bloom.

Ordinance drop is just, wow. Not only is it a problem for map movement but it is also random. Each player in the game has different 3 things to choose from.

Highlighted weapons, this is just a gimmick and a very bad one at that. It destroys the idea of seasoned players, well being seasoned. Knowing where the weapons are and getting it before the new players figure it out. Random weapon drops do not help in this situation just makes it even worse.

Instant spawning, is just stupid. It doesn't let the other player who won the fight get the advantage of letting his shield recharge and causes people to spawn close to the player he/she just killed. It is an obvious problem.

Flagnums, just lol. Why must they restrict people from dropping the flag and the game promotes less strategies than before.

Oddball, Making players pick it up is dumb. Restricting the options for people to be able to pick up or not is dumb. How don't know how they thought it was a good idea to do this.

It truly burns me to say this. Reach, even vanilla is more skilled as of right now.
Custom games:
More restrictive than before. Nothing else needs to be said here. Really, if you think custom games with less options than custom games with more is worse, you are in some kind of weird delusion.

Spartan Ops:
No incentive to try to stay alive, you can't customize it to your liking, and the only thing cool about it is, it's cutscenes. Oh yeah and dialogue is laughable.
Posted by: Thrasher Fan
Spartan Ops requiring an Xbox Gold subscription. Can't be played offline.

Thanks Thrasher Fan!

UI:
Looks like someone from Microsoft made it to promote Windows 8. Less user friendly.

The sun: Too bright. Just too bright in the game.

Forge:Posted by: SPLEEEEENS
Here, this is for Forge.

Thanks SPLEEEEENS.

File Share: Is broken and still is broken.
Thanks Aang the Avatar!

Anything else you guys want me to add please leave a post and explain why.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 11:23 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 3:44 PM PDT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDf6uRabKPE

Forge...its just garbage. More of a pawn than an actual contribution.

  • 12.31.2012 3:45 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: kiknwing11
Forge...its just garbage. More of a pawn than an actual contribution.

Please explain why.

  • 12.31.2012 3:46 PM PDT

I am Brosidon, King of the Brocean

Simply because it's a linear shooter that does nothing innovative.

  • 12.31.2012 3:46 PM PDT
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My main complaint isn't with the game itself but with 343. Their lack of care towards the community, by not interacting with their forums at all, is incredibly frustrating. The players' views and opinions are not being heard at all.

Also, the fact that they aren't prioritizing fixing the file share is beyond stupid. That's a major feature that should have been available since day 1.

[Edited on 12.31.2012 3:48 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2012 3:47 PM PDT
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So what makes this one so much more official than all the other monotonous Halo 4 threads.

  • 12.31.2012 3:47 PM PDT


Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
Forge: If anyone was disappointed with this please explain why. I have not used it at all and feel like if I do I will be disappointed.

The lack of one large "Forge World"-esque map, and taking it's place are 3 small forgeable maps.

  • 12.31.2012 3:47 PM PDT
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Saying that "the story is bad" and giving no actual reason as to why is just foolish. I will hopefully remain neutral here, but tell me why it is bad.

  • 12.31.2012 3:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Aang the Avatar
The players' views and opinions are not being heard at all.

They hear them but aren't doing anything about them because they don't want to, they don't have to.. It's their game and going to be the way they want it not the way 150 kids on a forum do.

  • 12.31.2012 3:49 PM PDT

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There is no punishment for dying. You die and spawn back instantly sometimes you even spawn right by the guy who just killed you.

People being able to spawn with what ever they want just takes away from the arena style shooter halo was.

And basically everything stated in the op.

  • 12.31.2012 3:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: tsujen

Posted by: Aang the Avatar
The players' views and opinions are not being heard at all.

They hear them but aren't doing anything about them because they don't want to, they don't have to.. It's their game and going to be the way they want it not the way 150 kids on a forum do.


I think this thread has gotten big enough to warrant some sort of response, no?

  • 12.31.2012 3:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Gen Petitt
ME2 was known for stupidity and being retarded

It gets boring fast, has a campaign that's REALLY cheesy, and it's stripped of any customization.

  • 12.31.2012 3:53 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: Painis Cupcake
Saying that "the story is bad" and giving no actual reason as to why is just foolish. I will hopefully remain neutral here, but tell me why it is bad.

The story was not explainable to people who never read the books or watched the terminals. You shouldn't need books or terminals to understand the story or the main characters in the story. The story isn't strong enough to hold itself up.

  • 12.31.2012 3:57 PM PDT

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lube.

The game just isn't fun.

It doesn't have that mystique that the previous Halo games had. Heck, even Reach had it, despite its huge flaws.

  • 12.31.2012 3:57 PM PDT

Please stop complaining about the 'death of a loved one' it's my job. They probably deserved it anyways. Here's a warning, if you keep making pentagrams out of the neighbors livestock I will personally come to your house and kill everyone you love. Now leave me alone, I got to get back to work.
~M.D~

I don't like it because everyone else doesn't.

  • 12.31.2012 4:00 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

Story was painfully lame and cliched.

I mean really, "chosen one", "ancient evil awakens". How long until the upset teenaged character with toast in his/her mouth get added?

Glut of power weapons, long range maps end up being DMRs and plasma pistols only. Vehicles for the most part get wrecked aside from the Gauss.

Sandbox needs balancing, some things are never used while others are a loadout staple.

  • 12.31.2012 4:01 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: mister death
I don't like it because everyone else doesn't.

You sound very lame. A very lame person. I am not trying to make you hate it at all or I am not intending you to do that.

  • 12.31.2012 4:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: Painis Cupcake
Saying that "the story is bad" and giving no actual reason as to why is just foolish. I will hopefully remain neutral here, but tell me why it is bad.

The story was not explainable to people who never read the books or watched the terminals. You shouldn't need books or terminals to understand the story or the main characters in the story. The story isn't strong enough to hold itself up.

You do have a point, but if you did read/watch everything, it is a very strong story.
The whole thing about chief being "the chosen one" was kind of built up from halo 3 IMO. Guilty Spark even says- "you are forerunner."

  • 12.31.2012 4:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: mister death
I don't like it because everyone else doesn't.

You sound very lame. A very lame person. I am not trying to make you hate it at all or I am not intending you to do that.


So why did you make the thread?

  • 12.31.2012 4:07 PM PDT
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Why, hello there.

Posted by: Mastergee
So why did you make the thread?

To point out flaws in Halo 4?

  • 12.31.2012 4:11 PM PDT

If I ever see anyone post in a thread "That's your opinion", I immediately lose all respect for them.

Also, if you're discussing a topic with me and you resort to name calling, pull "life checks", or just call anything you don't agree with retarded without giving legitimate reasons, don't expect me to take you serious in anyway what so ever.

Forge is mediocre for a few reasons I'll just list

>hard coded kill boundaries
>no precision editing
>takes too long to end a game
>when you save and reload a map the pieces move even with the use of coordinates


These are the main reasons forge disappointed me.

  • 12.31.2012 4:11 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: Mastergee

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: mister death
I don't like it because everyone else doesn't.

You sound very lame. A very lame person. I am not trying to make you hate it at all or I am not intending you to do that.


So why did you make the thread?

Read the title then the thread. I wanted to explain why some of us don't like it. It was mostly for the people who never understood why we disliked it, in the flood. Even more so, I wish to stop the bashing in the flood because I am seriously tired of seeing multiple Halo 4 threads in the flood and I think one is enough. Hopefully it stops by trying to make a official thread about Halo 4 but maybe I am just wasting my efforts.

  • 12.31.2012 4:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mastergee

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: mister death
I don't like it because everyone else doesn't.

You sound very lame. A very lame person. I am not trying to make you hate it at all or I am not intending you to do that.


So why did you make the thread?
Doesn't require that much brain power to figure that out...

  • 12.31.2012 4:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: Mastergee

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: mister death
I don't like it because everyone else doesn't.

You sound very lame. A very lame person. I am not trying to make you hate it at all or I am not intending you to do that.


So why did you make the thread?

Read the title then the thread. I wanted to explain why some of us don't like it. It was mostly for the people who never understood why we disliked it, in the flood. Even more so, I wish to stop the bashing in the flood because I am seriously tired of seeing multiple Halo 4 threads in the flood and I think one is enough. Hopefully it stops by trying to make a official thread about Halo 4 but maybe I am just wasting my efforts.


It's pretty easy to understand why you don't like it, you have a different opinion and honestly I couldn't give a -blam!-.

  • 12.31.2012 4:14 PM PDT

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  • 12.31.2012 4:14 PM PDT

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