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Subject: 45 REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

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1) They are humans not forerunners

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner

3) The covenant hates us

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.

5) All forerunners are dead.

6) We live on earth, we always have

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners

8) It is just a game, who cares about reason 8.

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.

10) Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.

16) even if we were dirived from forerunners that dose not make us them

17) there is no reason that they would try to preserve there race

18) the monitor says they are all dead

19) even if they came to earth they would have evolved to some thing completly new.

20) and i dont see why they would add that to the game now.

21) Forerunners are smarter than humans

22) Form what we know of forerunners they don’t act like humans

23) There would probably be more forerunners junk on earth

24) The prophets would know if we were forerunners

25) If the monitor mistook MC for a forerunners than that probably means they did not look very human because MC did not look very human.

26) Humans don’t look like forerunners

27) Humans don’t sound like forerunners

28) Humans don’t smell like forerunners

29) Sentinels attacked the humans

30) The monitor told the sentinels to attack the humans.

31) The monitor uses different words for humans and forerunners.

32) The monitor was trying to activate halo against the will of the humans.

33) I am never wrong (or at least I am not always wrong, all the time )

34) The forerunners lived on the prophets home world so they could not have come from earth.

35) There are 34 good reasons why humans are not forerunners. (Yes that is reason 35)

36) No one in the game has ever used the same word for forerunners and humans.

37) The covenant no more about forerunners and their technology than the humans

38) The evidence that says they are dead is a lot more solid than the evidence that says humans are forerunners

39) The forerunners came form the prophet home world right, so they would look more like prophets than humans.

40) The forerunners are humans theory is a lie from the devil.

41) The covenant worship forerunners not humans.

42) No one has explained how they could have survived the halos activation, unless they say the ark protected them but there is no proof of that.

43) The whole idea is just silly.

44) If humans were forerunners they would have found out in the first game.

45) We don’t have much in common with them.

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normally I like allot of flamers but normally I post some thing ridicules to watch it get flamed or to which some actually think it could be true and watch them go off in the wrong direction proving things that aren’t there. I have never posted a theory that I believe. But this is some thing that I do think is true and it is not that hard to believe but I have been flamed for this more than if I was trying to. The only one who even tried to prove it was iceman he was the only one who had accentual evidence. and a lot of you think I am "thick skulled" well I am not I have switched theories many times, I used to think humans were forerunners and I might again but right now every one thinks that, more than likely bungie only put that stuff in there to through you off in some other direction.

Normally I would not do something like this but I am going to post 5 more reasons every day till I get to a hundred just to spite you all. ..I..

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THE REAL REASONS

Alright you want facts and quotes here are a few.

Humans have been on earth between 100,000 and 300,000 years right (This depends on the theory and your definition of human, some say much longer some say much shorter but that would change my point), the first life was on earth about a billion years before that right so that means the halos were activated at least a billion years before the humans came to earth. It would not take them that long to get to earth the humans in the books could travel much faster than that. Also if you think they placed life forms on earth that would evolve into humans than there is no way that they would look anything like forerunners because they evolved on a completely different planet. They would be some thing completely new. No matter how you look at it, it has been a billion years since the rings were activated and in a billion years of evolution they will be completely different form the original organism, it’s like saying we evolved from small one celled organisms so we must be small one celled organisms.

But the fact that they would even try to preserve life is dumb why would they build a weapon that could wipe out all life if they wanted to save preserve their race.

Also the monitor says his creators and all life were wiped out, not some life all of it. Even if they saved some life they would not be able to survive because they would have nothing to eat.

Even if they could or would make a life form that would evolve to be them on earth after a billion years that would make them gods and not at all humans.


[Edited on 7/13/2006]

  • 07.06.2006 8:15 PM PDT
Subject: 10 RESONES WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

You are very thick skulled arent you!

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hahahahaha

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That is a very, very, might i say very thought out response, although i have to disagree, what if the forerunners were humans? eh?

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Posted by: Jester14X
That is a very, very, might i say very thought out response, although i have to disagree, what if the forerunners were humans? eh?
This guy is hard headed but listen to 343 GS 2401 PT Reclaimer - RE - Claimer get it.

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Posted by: Jester14X
That is a very, very, might i say very thought out response, although i have to disagree, what if the forerunners were humans? eh?
This guy is hard headed but listen to 343 GS 2401 PT Reclaimer - RE - Claimer get it.


yea i know, im just playin w/ him. He believes it, he just doesnt want to believe it.

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WOW, Hunter117 I bow down to your clearly superior intellectual abilities, why didn't any of us think of those 10 sound reasons as to why the forerunners could not possibly be humans....?

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i know why mr. remonstar... cause they're bull -blam!-!..... first of all, a guy who can't even spell REASON, doesnt have the intellectual authority to prove a theory right or wrong, and alot of signs point to us being forerunner descendants or choses ones becasue bungie made it that way
no one just pulled that idea out of their ass

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Posted by: The Bold One
i know why mr. remonstar... cause they're bull -blam!-!..... first of all, a guy who can't even spell REASON, doesnt have the intellectual authority to prove a theory right or wrong, and alot of signs point to us being forerunner descendants or choses ones becasue bungie made it that way
no one just pulled that idea out of their ass
The ignorance of some people jeez. He spelled reason right and why you flameing I mean you can not even spell a simple word like because. Bold my auss. That is not mispelled because I added a bittish accent.

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  • 07.06.2006 8:38 PM PDT

"You ever wonder what's up there"
"Like what"
"Maybe someone up there was wondering what it's like here"
"I guess, do you think will ever meet them"
"I hope so, don't you...?"

- The proof there's intelligent life in the universe is the fact that they haven't visited Earth.

Join the Sangheili Empire, the last of the surviving Sangheili...

Maybe you should replay Halo a couple thousand times...

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NO, he edited it... he had it spell RESONES, and i write BECAUSE ( happy now?) like cause, because its shorter, not because i can't spell because... okay? and dont call me a flamer and then flame me.

and everyone else is flaming him and telling him his reasons suck? why dont you go attack them? hmmmm?

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Isn't it past your bedtime, dude?
although, If you are in fact older than I imagine (8-11)... then here is something for you.

a) Learn spelling/grammar. It is important in order to make yourself look more knowledgable.

b) Be open-minded. You are not always right.

c) Expand your reasoning and theories with better and/or more examples.

d) Understand that Halo is, in fact, a game. Therefore Bungie can do anything they want that completely rearranges our history. Just because you and I know we aren't descendants to forerunners, doesnt mean that in the game, those humans can't be.


[note: I am undecided on the issue of forerunners. I am open on the subject.]

  • 07.06.2006 8:47 PM PDT
Subject: 10 REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

"I'm hungry..."

Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners
That IS just thick skulled. Who the hell knows what forerunner even is/was? No one, save the Monitors and maybe the Prophets.

3) The covenant hates use Yes, they hate humans and worship forerunners, but I think that may be a load of bull. I think that, secretely, the Prophets KNOW that we are the "forerunners". They want to wipe us out and they are using OUR forgotten technology to do it; and they make it ok by lying to the rest of the Covenant, telling them that it was bestowed upon them by some deities.

If man did forget about their past, why? I don't know.

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers. Like I said above, we are reclaiming what was once ours.

5) 6) We live on earth, we always have Says who? It is suggested that we have, but before the Covenant attacked, it was believed humans were the only sentient beings in the galaxy. That changed.

I'm not even going to address the other, idiotic remarks.


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  • 07.06.2006 8:55 PM PDT
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the reclaimers may not be present day forerunners but they are directly linked to them

like how you would call modern day man and h0m0-sapiens the same person

cuz they are, one is just from a different time

so in a way humanity is the forerunner

  • 07.06.2006 8:56 PM PDT
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I do not believe the Forerunners are humans, covenant, or any species we have seen yet. I don't agree with hunter though, because those were almost the same 10 reasons just dragged out to make himself seem smart.
I'm not trying to be 'thick-skulled,' but if there is actual proof from Bungie, or any other reliable source of what the Forerunners are, then I will believe that. :)

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  • 07.06.2006 8:58 PM PDT
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"I'm hungry..."

Is there really a physical difference between -blam!- sapiens and -blam!- sapiens sapiens (what modern man is referred to as)? I always thought it was just a technological/Psychological difference...

Like I said, I don't know if we are the Forerunners, evolved descendants, old slaves, who knows. However, I do believe that the Prophets know the truth and are keeping it from the other factions of the covenant. I don't think they worship forerunners, because they know we are/are related to them. I don't think they worship anyone.

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Because you are a complete -blam!-ing retard and insist on putting caps everywhere.

  • 07.06.2006 9:03 PM PDT
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To bring into or return to a suitable condition for use
is the definition of "Reclaim" from Dictionary.com. Meaning that just because you are reclaiming something doesnt mean that it was once yours.

  • 07.06.2006 9:03 PM PDT
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there is no difference between -blam!--sapiens and human beings... they are equal...

I think he meant more along the lines of our evolutionary descendants... aka -blam!--erectus.... and there are others i just cannot think of time...

  • 07.06.2006 9:05 PM PDT
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HERES YOUR PROOF ON WHY THE HUMAN ARE FORERUNNER

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.




*343 GUILTY SPARK:
The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.


this one proves we descendend from the forerunner. and dont give that "its the flood he's talking about" crap. see the first quote and that quells that ridiculous notion.

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.



HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?????

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating


and heres the icing on the cake. NOT EVEN with HALF A BRAIN can anyone dispute this quote

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Hunter117 has been Lyca'ed!

  • 07.06.2006 9:12 PM PDT

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*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.




*343 GUILTY SPARK:
The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.


he is talking about the flood

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.



he could just be talking about the last person who asked him to activate it.

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating



all that means is that he did not know about the humans and had no record of them and was glad he found one.

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Posted by: hunter117


*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.




*343 GUILTY SPARK:
The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.


he is talking about the flood

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.



he could just be talking about the last person who asked him to activate it.

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating



all that means is that he did not know about the humans and had no record of them and was glad he found one.



read the very first quote. he is NOT talking about the flood. why would he be happy to see the flood reproduce? think about it: his job is to KILL THEM. not be glad to see them
read the FIRST QUOTE.

he wouldnt confuse anyone for MC unless the forerunner looked like that. so since they did, they had the same bone structure, etc. more evidence human=forerunner

and lastly, why does he say OUR LOST TIME???? look at the actual evidence, and not mere conjucture. you have yet to bring solid in game prood that the human arent forerunner, and i brought irrefutable ( well almost ) proof that they are

come on dude, ive seen you argue and make good points. but this is one that you havent been able to back up

im just playin devils advocate btw :-)

  • 07.06.2006 9:31 PM PDT