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Subject: 10 REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N


read the very first quote. he is NOT talking about the flood. why would he be happy to see the flood reproduce? think about it: his job is to KILL THEM. not be glad to see them
read the FIRST QUOTE.

he wouldnt confuse anyone for MC unless the forerunner looked like that. so since they did, they had the same bone structure, etc. more evidence human=forerunner

and lastly, why does he say OUR LOST TIME???? look at the actual evidence, and not mere conjucture. you have yet to bring solid in game prood that the human arent forerunner, and i brought irrefutable ( well almost ) proof that they are

come on dude, ive seen you argue and make good points. but this is one that you havent been able to back up

im just playin devils advocate btw :-)


All he cared about was studying things he was glad to see that the flood survived because it was his job to study them and if they got out to kill them. Besides he was talking about the flood he says so.

I did not say he confused them; he might just refer to who ever activated it as the same person,

And he says "our lost time" as in the time he and the forerunners and other monitors lost not studying the humans.

and i have never seen any where in a book or game where it says the humans are forerunners. if humans were forerunners and mc knew it he would have told someone.


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  • 07.06.2006 9:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: The Slayer
You are very thick skulled arent you!


I don't think Humans are Forerunners, but The Slayer is right...

  • 07.06.2006 9:44 PM PDT
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TEN REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE FORERUNNERS

1.Were Able to use forerunner equipment
2.Covenant dnt no were forerunners b.c UNSC triggered the Cov. UNSC war.
3.343 Guilty Spark uses a diffrent name for a forerunner. Reclamier is a name for the returning Forerunner.
4. The Ark is in Earth and we live on earth but we dnt no b.c after all life vanished Forerunners started over
5.Sentinals Attacked Covenant in Halo 1 and defended the Cheif until he went against them
6.Sentinals never attacked any human camp in the Quarintine Zone, knowing we were forerunners
7.Humans r greedy and only trust themselves so they gave operating forerunner equipment to themselves
8.The oracle in Halo 1 told us tht our armor wasnt as strong as our old one quote in the Library "im reading ur suit is only class 2.. this is not acceptable for this kind of warfare please swich to class 12" she knew our armor and new everything bout us
9. All Forerunners started over on earth which is not in Halos range to whipe out. Forerunners wanted to protect there offspring world to reproduce more of them in the time were theres no life in the galaxy
10.When Halo was Activated Forerunners must hav placed there kind to breed on the planet, brainwashed them about the war and there advanced race so they could start over. and if flood came theres always to Ark to activate with its own Monitier in it to guide us to activate it.

  • 07.06.2006 10:00 PM PDT
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this guy must have read my post in another forum from yesterday because the humans being forerunners was my idea ill find the post and put it in this 1 when i find it

  • 07.06.2006 10:32 PM PDT

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normally I like allot of flamers but normally I post some thing ridicules to watch it get flamed or to which some actually think it could be true and watch them go off in the wrong direction proving things that aren’t there. I have never posted a theory that I believe. But this is some thing that I do think is true and it is not that hard to believe but I have been flamed for this more than if I was trying to. The only one who even tried to prove it was iceman he was the only one who had accentual evidence. and a lot of you think I am "thick skulled" well I am not I have switched theories many times, I used to think humans were forerunners and I might again but right now every one thinks that, more than likely bungie only put that stuff in there to through you off in some other direction.

Normally I would not do something like this but I am going to post 5 more reasons every day till I get to a hundred just to spite you all. ..I..


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  • 07.07.2006 10:02 AM PDT
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1) I don't care.

2) I don't care.

3) I don't care.

4) I don't care.

5) I don't care.

6) I don't care.

7) I don't care.

8) I don't care.

9) I don't care.

10) I don't care.

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  • 07.07.2006 10:05 AM PDT

We are a generation commanded by fate to defend
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Well I guess I will get started.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.

  • 07.07.2006 10:18 AM PDT
Subject: 10 RESONES WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

"Were it so easy?"

Still waiting for the day to see Ling Ling's head.

10 Resones why I like Halo.
1.MC
2.XBL
3.Sword
4.Glitch Mania
5.SPNKR
6.Grunts
7.Skanky Elites
8.Skulls.
9.-blam!- Brutes
10.Prophet HACKZ

  • 07.07.2006 10:23 AM PDT
Subject: 10 REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

"I'm hungry..."

Posted by: rellik setohc
this guy must have read my post in another forum from yesterday because the humans being forerunners was my idea ill find the post and put it in this 1 when i find it


Ok, it was NOT your idea.

@Hunter117: I'm not really trying to flame you. All I was saying is that you seem to be very narrow-viewing. You just didn't give any good reasons to back up your theory.

  • 07.07.2006 10:24 AM PDT
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Listen. Just STFU!
You can't spell, and those reason CONFLICT with eachother! You're trying to act smart! Please just stop crying for attention because all you're going to get is flamed.

  • 07.07.2006 10:26 AM PDT
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Location: Outlaws' Summit.

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.


* sigh *

explain this to me. and give a quote. its not fair that i bring you rock solid evidence as to WHY THE HUMANS= FORERUNNER and you give back is conjecture that contradicts itself

so explain that quote: why would he say it was an error to keep the flood, then say he's glad they reproduce? why would he wanna kill them off and be happy that "some of them survived"?

come on man, at least give a quote or somethin that you can back up. i have evidence that proves humans are forerunner and yet has ANYONE on this forum given me evidence that they arent.

gimme an in-game quote.

  • 07.07.2006 10:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: hunter117
Well I guess I will get started.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.


WOW... okay
#11) Try looking
12) Majority does not necessitate ignorance, it just usually induces it.
13) Like they "Made clear" what halo did right when MC found out about it? (sarcasm)
14) What?! Didn't you just talk about people not using REAL evidence?
15) um... structures where were not designed for humans?
I THINK you mean there are structures not designed for humans. play the game. Remember when chief just knew what button to press?
Or read the books, he activated the light bridge by either pure luck or a subconscious directive.

  • 07.07.2006 10:28 AM PDT

We are a generation commanded by fate to defend
humankind ! We must meet the threat with our valor,
our blood, with our very lives, to insure that human
civilization, not elite dominates this galaxy now
and always.
we need soldiers, SOLDERS LIKE YOU!

WE WILL FIGHT AND WE WILL WIN!
Join up here


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Posted by: rellik setohc
this guy must have read my post in another forum from yesterday because the humans being forerunners was my idea ill find the post and put it in this 1 when i find it


Ok, it was NOT your idea.

@Hunter117: I'm not really trying to flame you. All I was saying is that you seem to be very narrow-viewing. You just didn't give any good reasons to back up your theory.


Well I don’t know what that guy is talking about because I don’t think forerunners are humans so I don’t know how I stole his idea.

You are one of the few, who did not flam me, but a lot of people did and there will be more. most of those reasons were not meant to be good ones I mostly started this thread because I am tired of seeing all the human=forerunners threads and all the humans are forerunners threads I was neutral on the whole humans and forerunners thing but all of that crap made me realize if it cant be true.

  • 07.07.2006 10:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner

3) The covenant hates use

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.

5) All forerunners are dead.

6) We live on earth, we always have

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners

8) It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.

10) Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.


Well, the Humans may not be the Forerunners, but 343 Guilty Spark would often hint that the Humans has something to do with the Forerunners, and after all the Ark is supposed to be on Earth, so maybe the location of the last surviving Forerunners are on Earth, in the Ark. The Ark is probably a safe haven of some sort for protection against the Flood or the blast of Halo, in which they can activate or disactivate the Halos. After all, in biblical terms, the Ark, Noah's Ark, is supposed to protect the people and animals against the Flood or huge storm that God sent down to cleanse the Earth, just like the Halos, cleansing the galaxy of the Flood. Well, thats just my idiotic theory.

  • 07.07.2006 10:45 AM PDT
Subject: 10 REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

We are a generation commanded by fate to defend
humankind ! We must meet the threat with our valor,
our blood, with our very lives, to insure that human
civilization, not elite dominates this galaxy now
and always.
we need soldiers, SOLDERS LIKE YOU!

WE WILL FIGHT AND WE WILL WIN!
Join up here

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
*343 GUILTY SPARK:
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.

*343 GUILTY SPARK:
The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.


* sigh *

explain this to me. and give a quote. its not fair that i bring you rock solid evidence as to WHY THE HUMANS= FORERUNNER and you give back is conjecture that contradicts itself

so explain that quote: why would he say it was an error to keep the flood, then say he's glad they reproduce? why would he wanna kill them off and be happy that "some of them survived"?

come on man, at least give a quote or somethin that you can back up. i have evidence that proves humans are forerunner and yet has ANYONE on this forum given me evidence that they arent.

gimme an in-game quote.


Well I don’t have any quotes memorized but I do know cortana went inside halo she knows all about the forerunners and I think she would know if they were human and she never said any thing about it.

The heretics spent lots of time with the monitors and they never said the prophets lied to them about who the forerunners were.

wait i have thought of some qoutes but i will have to go find them i will be back.

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  • 07.07.2006 10:49 AM PDT
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My two cents.
Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners

What are Forerunners than? This is just like saying "they are cows, not bovines," if you didn't know what the word "bovine" meant.

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner
Sure...

3) The covenant hates us
The Covenant might not have a full grasp on it themselves. Even if they do understand the we are decended from the Forerunners, they probably realize that we have long left that path.

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.
As in "Reclaimers of the role." In our past we were Forerunners, in the future we will reclaim that postion in the universe.

5) All forerunners are dead.
We don't know that, do we? We know they are supposedly gone, but the question is where did they go.

6) We live on earth, we always have
Prove it.

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners
That's not a reason. "Just because I eat toast, doesn't mean I like it." But it could.

8) It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter
Well, yes... but what sort of argument is that?

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.
Yet we build nuclear weapons in the name of "dterence" and "peace"...


10) Everyone thinks that and Bungie wont do it if everyone expects it.

Everyone expects that Halo 3 will feature Master Chief... so I guess it won't.

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oooh i haven't laughed so hard in a long long time

not since we were forerunners for that matter

  • 07.07.2006 11:08 AM PDT
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The whole thing about how Gultly whouldn't be calling us Reclaimers or what ever is a good point.

  • 07.07.2006 11:11 AM PDT

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20 reasons why humans ARE forerunners:

1. we are forerunners
2. I know I ama forerunner
3. I ate a chinese fortune cookie that says "Whoever eats this is a forerunner" and I made sure I ate it.
4. YOU are not a forerunner because you SUCK and forerunners are awesome
5. I like the letter f
6 .i like the letter o
7. i like the letter r
8. i like the letter e
9 .i like the letter r again
10. I like the letter u
11/12. I like the letter n (double as much as i like the other letter)
13. i like the letter e again
14. i like the letter r again
15. I am always right
16. you are always wrong
17. I can beat you at HALO CE and HALO 2
18. Oracles call humans reclaimers...re....again....we had to have been there before to.
19. dig a hole
20. die

  • 07.07.2006 11:12 AM PDT
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oooooooooo BURN!!!!!! ROFLMFGDAO

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  • 07.07.2006 11:14 AM PDT
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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  • 07.07.2006 11:38 AM PDT
Subject: 10 RESONES WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

And to further push hunter117's face into the dust, on several occasions in the books the Master Chief turned on the light bridge and was very capable in using Forerunner holo-panels. He just 'knew' how to use them, to quote 'The Flood':

The dislplay's shimmering geometric patterns nagged at him, as if he should recognize them somehow. Even with his enhanced memory, he couldn't place where he'd seen them before. They just seemed...familiar.

And further down the page:

He wasn't sure why he touched the "button" on the display. He just knew it felt right.

And on many other occasions scattered throught the books Spartans have seen Forerunner symbols and have found them frustratingly familliar. This could be part of the SPARTAN program's augumentations to the subjects, the augumentations have pushed the subjects further down the evolutionary road, and since Forerunners were obviously more evolved than current humans, the Spartans are closer to the Forerunners than any other humans. And because of this, only Spartans can recognize Forerunner symbols.

  • 07.07.2006 12:17 PM PDT
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finally a good thread

  • 07.07.2006 12:22 PM PDT