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Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner

3) The covenant hates use

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.

5) All forerunners are dead.

6) We live on earth, we always have

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners

8) It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.

10) Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.

You -blam!- retarted waste of matter, air and resources.

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Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner

3) The covenant hates use

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.

5) All forerunners are dead.

6) We live on earth, we always have

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners

8) It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.

10) Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.

You -blam!- retarded waste of space, air and resources.

  • 07.07.2006 12:25 PM PDT
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>.< what about everything withing three galactic radii perishing don't you understand?!? All the forerunner died and if they had decendents (I don't think so) they died too!!!

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His reasons are retarded.

or in his way of typing

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  • 07.07.2006 12:36 PM PDT
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If the oracle lied and halo didn't work and not everything died and humans are forerunners whay do sentinels attack their makers? Why is our tech so far behind forerunner (us) tech? Did we decide it made like too easy so lets go back to the stone age? Honestly you guy are idiots.

  • 07.07.2006 12:42 PM PDT
Subject: 10 RESONES WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

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He's just a genius in the computer and game world. Enough said.

Just a few things I want to throw out there. Personally I beleive that the humans are forunners. And a few of the reasons have been mentioned, but heres one to ponder. If we have no relation to the forerunners, then why does 343 Guilty Spark speak our language, it could be for simple coincidence to allow him into the story, but that's not at all like Bungie, no Bungies very specific and detailed with there stories and anything related they release. Second thing i want to throw out there is a counter argument to the argument that 343 called us reclaimers and not forerunners. The fact that 343 said "Reclaimers" and not "Forerunners" is a pointless argument as "Forerunner" is the covenent name for them, do you really think a race would call themselves the forerunners, fore indicates that they came before. Aswell in counter to Hunters argument that they will not go with Humans = Forerunners do to it being to largely beleived, well simply put your forgetting about the mass majority of players who have no idea that that idea even exists, that people are even arguing about possible plot. The majority of Halo players haven't read the books, haven't thought about the plot since they last played Halo campaign, and don't even care about it.

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  • 07.07.2006 12:46 PM PDT
Subject: 10 REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE NOT FORERUNNERS.

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i agree that forerunners aren't human, but those are some pretty bad reasons

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Alright you want facts and quotes here are a few.

Humans have been on earth 2 million years right, the first life was on earth about a billion years before that right so that means the halos were activated at least a billion years before the humans came to earth. It would not take them that long to get to earth the humans in the books could travel much faster than that. Also if you think they placed life forms on earth that would evolve into humans than there is no way that they would look anything like forerunners because they evolved on a completely different planet. They would be some thing completely new. No matter how you look at it, it has been a billion years since the rings were activated and in a billion years of evolution they will be completely different form the original organism, it’s like saying we evolved from small one celled organisms so we must be small one celled organisms.

But the fact that they would even try to preserve life is dumb why would they build a weapon that could wipe out all life if they wanted to save preserve their race.

Also the monitor says his creators and all life were wiped out, not some life all of it. Even if they saved some life they would not be able to survive because they would have nothing to eat.

Even if they could or would make a life form that would evolve to be them on earth after a billion years that would make them gods and not at all humans.


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  • 07.07.2006 1:14 PM PDT
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1. they are humans, not forerunners
um, their names could have just been changed. (i know, not very sound, but makes just as much sense as yours.

2. i think i would know if i was a forunner
it's just a game, not real life

3. the covanent hate us
they were wrong about what the rings, so why can't they be wrong about who we could really be.

4.If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.
probably your best reason, no response

5.All forerunners are dead.
where does it say that?

6. We live on earth, we always have
um, if i recall we live on other worlds to, like Reach

7. Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners
(here's a double negative) well, it dosn't mean we arn't, it just a fact that we can use tech, doesn't help either side of the argument

8. It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter
says the guy who spends time making a post about this stuff, and i quote his second post.

I think I would know if I were a forerunner

um, seems like you don't even know the difference between the game and real life, if you can say this


9.There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.
this is just bull

10. Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.
i think they are going make a halo 3, oops, the expected it, now they arn't going to make it. darn



also, i would like to point out that you said there are 15 reasons, yet you only posted 10. so, since the name of your topic is misleading, then i guss everything you posted is misleading/false




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  • 07.07.2006 1:23 PM PDT

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4.If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.
probably your best reason, no response


Maybe his best reason, but still not a good one.

I ask you - How many times, exactly, did the monitors or any of the forerunner constructs CALL the forerunners forerunners? Never. They never called their old masters forerunners. Thats a Covenant name for them, not a "forerunner" name for them.

Maybe the forerunners (and the monitors) called themselves "Reclaimers. Hmm?

I rest my case.

  • 07.07.2006 1:30 PM PDT

just saying.

an intresting thought

u get all this infomation on the forerunners from guilty spark who is talking to MC, refering him as the Reclaimer. as much as ill like the humans to be the fore runners what if the forerunners where something that looked like or where like spartans, which could mean that the forerunners are hummans.

  • 07.07.2006 1:37 PM PDT

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well a few posts above this one i posted the real reasons i dont think humans are forerunners but people dont care about facts.

  • 07.07.2006 1:38 PM PDT
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this guy must have read my post in another forum from yesterday because the humans being forerunners was my idea ill find the post and put it in this 1 when i find it


you're a moron if you think you were the first person to think forerunners are humans, this specualtion has been going on for years....

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i dont even think that, i have no idea what that guy is talking about.

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Posted by: hunter117
Well I guess I will get started.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.



all of your reasons are clearly opiniated and closed minded, plus most of your reasons are repeated and none of them have any explanation or factual backing...

  • 07.07.2006 1:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: hunter117
Well I guess I will get started.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.



all of your reasons are clearly opiniated and closed minded, plus most of your reasons are repeated and none of them have any explanation or factual backing...


I have all ready explained the purpose of those reasons I will not do it again.

  • 07.07.2006 1:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: hunter117


Humans have been on earth 2 million years right, the first life was on earth about a billion years before that right so that means the halos were activated at least a billion years before the humans came to earth. It would not take them that long to get to earth the humans in the books could travel much faster than that. Also if you think they placed life forms on earth that would evolve into humans than there is no way that they would look anything like forerunners because they evolved on a completely different planet. They would be some thing completely new. No matter how you look at it, it has been a billion years since the rings were activated and in a billion years of evolution they will be completely different form the original organism, it’s like saying we evolved from small one celled organisms so we must be small one celled organisms.


I'd like to see your proof that we were here billions of years ago.

  • 07.07.2006 1:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: DarkAngel117
TEN REASONS WHY HUMANS ARE FORERUNNERS

1.Were Able to use forerunner equipment
i believe the covenant species were created by the forerunner like the flood. only non-forerunner species can touch and/or activate forerunner stuff
2.Covenant dnt no were forerunners b.c UNSC triggered the Cov. UNSC war. this makes no sense
3.343 Guilty Spark uses a diffrent name for a forerunner. Reclamier is a name for the returning Forerunner. reclaimers and forerunners are separate, 343 mentions his "creators", differrent to reclaimers
4. The Ark is in Earth and we live on earth but we dnt no b.c after all life vanished Forerunners started over who says the ark wasn't built over 100,000years ago?
5.Sentinals Attacked Covenant in Halo 1 and defended the Cheif until he went against them chief was allied with 343 until then. duh!
6.Sentinals never attacked any human camp in the Quarintine Zone, knowing we were forerunners the didn't attack just for teh reason above
7.Humans r greedy and only trust themselves so they gave operating forerunner equipment to themselves humans are not forerunner creations, so can use their equipment
8.The oracle in Halo 1 told us tht our armor wasnt as strong as our old one quote in the Library "im reading ur suit is only class 2.. this is not acceptable for this kind of warfare please swich to class 12" she knew our armor and new everything bout us spartan armour is adapted from elite's which is from forerunner.
9. All Forerunners started over on earth which is not in Halos range to whipe out. Forerunners wanted to protect there offspring world to reproduce more of them in the time were theres no life in the galaxy human evolved an immunity to the halos
10.When Halo was Activated Forerunners must hav placed there kind to breed on the planet, brainwashed them about the war and there advanced race so they could start over. and if flood came theres always to Ark to activate with its own Monitier in it to guide us to activate it. there's no evidence for that.

*sighs*
next!

  • 07.07.2006 1:46 PM PDT
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we were not here billions of years ago that is my point.

  • 07.07.2006 1:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: hunter117
Well I guess I will get started.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.



all of your reasons are clearly opiniated and closed minded, plus most of your reasons are repeated and none of them have any explanation or factual backing...


I have all ready explained the purpose of those reasons I will not do it again.


so if you've already explained these reasons(which you havent) then why do you give them new numbers. you dont have any reasons, just random thoughts. and youre comment about the flood reproducing not the humans when someone brought up the monitors quote, well why would he say that if hes been seeing them reproduce for "billions of years" in your "reasoning". plus you say the heretics said that the prophets didnt lie to them, well the heretics dont even like the prophets hence the word "heretic", so they dont even talk to the prohets let alone believe them, in fact the heretics are the ones who actually know about the lies of the prophets. I would strongly believe that you have never read the books, didnt pay any atttention to either campaign storyline, and dont listen in history class. If you are unknowledgeable and talk like you know everything, expect flaming my friend. Go read the books then come back buddy....the evidence is undeniable....

  • 07.07.2006 1:57 PM PDT

Posted by: hunter117
Alright you want facts and quotes here are a few.

Humans have been on earth 2 million years right, the first life was on earth about a billion years before that right so that means the halos were activated at least a billion years before the humans came to earth. It would not take them that long to get to earth the humans in the books could travel much faster than that. Also if you think they placed life forms on earth that would evolve into humans than there is no way that they would look anything like forerunners because they evolved on a completely different planet. They would be some thing completely new. No matter how you look at it, it has been a billion years since the rings were activated and in a billion years of evolution they will be completely different form the original organism, it’s like saying we evolved from small one celled organisms so we must be small one celled organisms.

But the fact that they would even try to preserve life is dumb why would they build a weapon that could wipe out all life if they wanted to save preserve their race.

Also the monitor says his creators and all life were wiped out, not some life all of it. Even if they saved some life they would not be able to survive because they would have nothing to eat.

Even if they could or would make a life form that would evolve to be them on earth after a billion years that would make them gods and not at all humans.


Who says the Forerunners weren't native to Earth? I mean it would make more sense to put the doomsday device's button(Ark) on your homeworld rather than on a colonized world far from the center of your Empire. And I see many parallels between Earth and the Rings: the air is breathable, similar landscapes, similar climates. There is much evidence that Earth was the Forerunner homeworld.

Even if they could or would make a life form that would evolve to be them on earth after a billion years that would make them gods and not at all humans.

This is a really dumb comment. The Forerunners were not gods, that's just what the Covenant make them out to be. Just because they had superior intellect does not make them gods.

  • 07.07.2006 2:15 PM PDT

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Who says the Forerunners weren't native to Earth? I mean it would make more sense to put the doomsday device's button(Ark) on your homeworld rather than on a colonized world far from the center of your Empire. And I see many parallels between Earth and the Rings: the air is breathable, similar landscapes, similar climates. There is much evidence that Earth was the Forerunner homeworld.



Your joking right, I think we would have seen signs of a super advanced civilization if it were on earth.

This is a really dumb comment. The Forerunners were not gods, that's just what the Covenant make them out to be. Just because they had superior intellect does not make them gods.

That was my point, it is not possible.

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  • 07.07.2006 2:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: hunter117

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Posted by: hunter117
Well I guess I will get started.

11) I have never seen any real proof

12) Too many people believe that

13) If they were trying to say humans were forerunners they would have made it clear.

14) If human=forerunners than 2+2=poop

15) Forerunners structures where were not designed for humans.



all of your reasons are clearly opiniated and closed minded, plus most of your reasons are repeated and none of them have any explanation or factual backing...


I have all ready explained the purpose of those reasons I will not do it again.


so if you've already explained these reasons(which you havent) then why do you give them new numbers. you dont have any reasons, just random thoughts. and youre comment about the flood reproducing not the humans when someone brought up the monitors quote, well why would he say that if hes been seeing them reproduce for "billions of years" in your "reasoning". plus you say the heretics said that the prophets didnt lie to them, well the heretics dont even like the prophets hence the word "heretic", so they dont even talk to the prohets let alone believe them, in fact the heretics are the ones who actually know about the lies of the prophets. I would strongly believe that you have never read the books, didnt pay any atttention to either campaign storyline, and dont listen in history class. If you are unknowledgeable and talk like you know everything, expect flaming my friend. Go read the books then come back buddy....the evidence is undeniable....


you need to replay the games and reread the books. the forerunners died out a long time ago.

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  • 07.07.2006 2:40 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner

3) The covenant hates use

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.

5) All forerunners are dead.

6) We live on earth, we always have

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners

8) It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.

10) Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.

Wow your a genius. (sarc.)

1. Read The Books or have someone who has explain it to you. Or just actually play through the Halo 1 and 2 campaigns and Listen to the cut scenes.

2. It a freakin Sci- Fi game and if you don't know the Fi means FICTION.

3. Do you really think they would know.

4. We aren't the forrunners. (Read #1)

5. Once again read #1.

6. As did they (back to # 1)

7. But nontheless our ability or inability to use their technology does not prevent us from being forunners.

8. So why did you post this. Now you're contradicting yourself.

9. Read #1 (sigh)

10. They probably have had it planned out since Halo 1. (read #1)

11. See the documentaries.

  • 07.07.2006 2:41 PM PDT

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[quote]Posted by: hunter117
1) They are humans not forerunners

2) I think I would know if I were a forerunner

3) The covenant hates use

4) If we were forerunners the monitors would have called us that or the creators, not reclaimers.

5) All forerunners are dead.

6) We live on earth, we always have

7) Just because we can use their tech dose not make us forerunners

8) It is just a game, it doesn’t even matter

9) There is no way any human would build some thing like the halos and I know that not all the humans could agree with that.

10) Every one thinks that and bunige wont do it if every one expects it.

Wow your a genius. (sarc.)

1. Read The Books or have someone who has explain it to you. Or just actually play through the Halo 1 and 2 campaigns and Listen to the cut scenes.

2. It a freakin Sci- Fi game and if you don't know the Fi means FICTION.

3. Do you really think they would know.

4. We aren't the forrunners. (Read #1)

5. Once again read #1.

6. As did they (back to # 1)

7. But nontheless our ability or inability to use their technology does not prevent us from being forunners.

8. So why did you post this. Now you're contradicting yourself.

9. Read #1 (sigh)

10. They probably have had it planned out since Halo 1. (read #1)

11. See the documentaries.



you did not read the whole post, dont post here unless you have.

  • 07.07.2006 2:45 PM PDT