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Subject: Enemy AI = Unlimited Ammo?
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Have you ever played Halo 2 Legendary. If not, just play the first level, hide behind and object, and let the covenant shoot away. They don't ever run out of ammo. I think this is a fix that needs to be made. Because why should they have unlimited ammo?

I think if you limited their rounds, they would have to be a lot smarter. Not just stand there and shoot like they did in Halo 2.

What if they ran out of ammo. It would be cool to see the Covenant have to resort to a human weapon. That would show some real intelligence.

  • 07.06.2006 8:41 PM PDT
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Its stupid. Its not a problem and anyways. They don't just shoot over and over if your ducking. They need it because it makes the game stupid if you can run and hide for a half a hour then come back and kill them.

  • 07.06.2006 8:43 PM PDT

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I really never noticed, I just used a logical plan and manuver to take each one out.

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  • 07.06.2006 8:45 PM PDT
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yeah if you let them live long enough they will keep shooting.. the solution? kill them.

why do they do that? maybe poeple will hide like you said until they ran out of ammo then come out in safety?

  • 07.06.2006 8:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloPooper
Its stupid. Its not a problem and anyways. They don't just shoot over and over if your ducking. They need it because it makes the game stupid if you can run and hide for a half a hour then come back and kill them.


Yeah I hear your point. But don't you think its kind of stupid that they can just sit there and shoot at you for hours if you played them right. While you the user are running around, scraping for ammo while they just shoot away?

  • 07.06.2006 8:47 PM PDT
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I actually do think that is a sweet idea to have them run out of ammo. I can also see why it's not a problem because they are usually dead before they would shoot enough to run out of ammo. I can't wait, tho, to see the A.I. in this game run. If they're setting up flanks and stuff like that.

  • 07.06.2006 8:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloPooper
Its stupid. Its not a problem and anyways. They don't just shoot over and over if your ducking. They need it because it makes the game stupid if you can run and hide for a half a hour then come back and kill them.


If you limited their ammunition, then they would have to be smarter and not shoot as much, no? In turn, that means they will have to be more tactical and strategic.

  • 07.06.2006 8:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloPooper
Its stupid. Its not a problem and anyways. They don't just shoot over and over if your ducking. They need it because it makes the game stupid if you can run and hide for a half a hour then come back and kill them.


If you limited their ammunition, then they would have to be smarter and not shoot as much, no? In turn, that means they will have to be more tactical and strategic.


Thank you. My point exactly. Why should the enemy have every advantage? They already out number you in every situation. Why not make it a little more fair for the Chief?

  • 07.06.2006 8:50 PM PDT
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It would be interresting to see two Brutes fighting over one weapon.....
And on legendary there weapons will overheat.

  • 07.06.2006 9:03 PM PDT

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If you limited their ammo, they wouldn't be able to shoot as much, that is true.

However, when they run out the AI has got to be able to get a new weapon. They would have to look around at the available weapon and somehow choose one.

That takes alot more AI power than Halo 2 could have had. Maybe in Halo 3, but who knows.

  • 07.06.2006 9:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fraged
It would be interresting to see two Brutes fighting over one weapon.....
And on legendary there weapons will overheat.


I think it would be interesting to see the covenant react and adapt to the environment and its surroundings. Not just have everything handed to them on a silver platter. Give them just as many disadvantages as we have. It will only make them smarter and the long run. And hey if you kill an elite with a BR. More ammo for the BR has never gone unappreciated

Marines - Used Covie weapons
Flood - Used Covie weapons
Covie - Have NOT ever used Human weapons

  • 07.06.2006 9:10 PM PDT

The brutes which are COVENANT use SHOTGUNS a human weapon!

  • 07.06.2006 9:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fraged
It would be interresting to see two Brutes fighting over one weapon.....
And on legendary there weapons will overheat.


I think it would be interesting to see the covenant react and adapt to the environment and its surroundings. Not just have everything handed to them on a silver platter. Give them just as many disadvantages as we have. It will only make them smarter and the long run. And hey if you kill an elite with a BR. More ammo for the BR has never gone unappreciated

Marines - Used Covie weapons
Flood - Used Covie weapons
Covie - Have NOT ever used Human weapons


Exactly. And I think it could be possible with Halo 3, and it is something definatly to consider.

  • 07.06.2006 9:15 PM PDT

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Or they could just have a secondary weapon instead of finding one. And yes, they did have to reload, but since they have plasma they don't reload. Just listen to the Marines.

Covie - Have NOT ever used Human weapons

You could MAKE them :D.

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  • 07.06.2006 9:28 PM PDT
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A Covenant Sangheili will never use a Human's pathetic excuse for a weapon.

  • 07.06.2006 9:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deadly Warrior
A Covenant Sangheili will never use a Human's pathetic excuse for a weapon.


Ok, well then if they ran out of ammo, I hope they will be ok with hand to hand combat because I still got ammo in my gun and I don't like to play far when it comes to fighting for my life.

  • 07.06.2006 9:31 PM PDT
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Same thing on Halo:CE, your comrads get unlimited ammo and so do the cov.

  • 07.06.2006 9:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: DEMESTIC
Same thing on Halo:CE, your comrads get unlimited ammo and so do the cov.


Yeah well why does it have to be that way? Why couldn't there just be ammo drops like in halo 2 for you and your fellow marines. Having marines calling dibbs on weapons, it would add to humor of the game.

  • 07.06.2006 9:38 PM PDT
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Keep unlimited ammo, just have reloads and overheat. Picking up ammo for AI is hard to script in games.

  • 07.06.2006 9:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deadly Warrior
A Covenant Sangheili will never use a Human's pathetic excuse for a weapon.


Ok, well then if they ran out of ammo, I hope they will be ok with hand to hand combat because I still got ammo in my gun and I don't like to play far when it comes to fighting for my life.


They would rather die then live with the shame of having to have used a Human weapon to "save" their life. And they would be perfectly fine with Hand to Hand combat, and you will regret it after being ripped limb from limb.

  • 07.06.2006 9:43 PM PDT

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A Covenant Sangheili will never use a Human's pathetic excuse for a weapon.


Ok, well then if they ran out of ammo, I hope they will be ok with hand to hand combat because I still got ammo in my gun and I don't like to play far when it comes to fighting for my life.


They would rather die then live with the shame of having to have used a Human weapon to "save" their life. And they would be perfectly fine with Hand to Hand combat, and you will regret it after being ripped limb from limb.


Imagine an Elite runs out of ammo. He will just pull out an Energy Sword and rip you apart.

  • 07.06.2006 9:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deadly Warrior
A Covenant Sangheili will never use a Human's pathetic excuse for a weapon.


Ok, well then if they ran out of ammo, I hope they will be ok with hand to hand combat because I still got ammo in my gun and I don't like to play far when it comes to fighting for my life.


They would rather die then live with the shame of having to have used a Human weapon to "save" their life. And they would be perfectly fine with Hand to Hand combat, and you will regret it after being ripped limb from limb.


Imagine an Elite runs out of ammo. He will just pull out an Energy Sword and rip you apart.


That would be great. My shotgun will be waiting for him.

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Yeah I definately agree with that... It would put you more into the game. Just that one little bit of extra realism sucks you into the world even more.

It would also be really sweet if you could hear them frantically tryng to find another weapon, or even realoading. Also your allies could yell to you and your other team mates that they're realoading, and to charge or move forward.

  • 07.06.2006 9:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ivanhoe92
Yeah I definately agree with that... It would put you more into the game. Just that one little bit of extra realism sucks you into the world even more.

It would also be really sweet if you could hear them frantically tryng to find another weapon, or even realoading. Also your allies could yell to you and your other team mates that they're realoading, and to charge or move forward.


Searching frantically for a weapon they can not find. To where they can hear you coming. They go and hide and jump out at you or a marine at the last moment trying to kill you or pry your weapon from your hands, doing whatever they can to survive. That would be amazing

  • 07.06.2006 9:50 PM PDT

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