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Subject: Do you believe in life after death?

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Posted by: elsnben
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The sad truth of the matter is that science hasn't nearly explained everything.

technically science has explained nothing, as it is a collection of theroies rather than definitive proof. There are therioes that are our best guess, like darwins theroy of evolution, but it is still a theroy. something can be disproven by science, but nothing can be proven.

To be honest I'm not sure why I felt the need to say this.

Maybe you just really love sounding like an idiot?

  • 01.01.2013 11:25 AM PDT


Posted by: Final Rose
Yes, because I'm not a pessimist idiot.


I simply don't believe that my soul will go somewhere else after I have died.

  • 01.01.2013 11:26 AM PDT


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Posted by: elsnben
Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
The sad truth of the matter is that science hasn't nearly explained everything.

technically science has explained nothing, as it is a collection of theroies rather than definitive proof. There are therioes that are our best guess, like darwins theroy of evolution, but it is still a theroy. something can be disproven by science, but nothing can be proven.

To be honest I'm not sure why I felt the need to say this.

Maybe you just really love sounding like an idiot?

Maybe It is idiotic, but I'll stand by ituntil someone who I trust more than my physics teacher tells me otherwise.

  • 01.01.2013 11:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: Final Rose
Yes, because I'm not a pessimist idiot.


I simply don't believe that my soul will go somewhere else after I have died.


You believe in a soul but no in an afterlife?

  • 01.01.2013 11:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: elsnben

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
The sad truth of the matter is that science hasn't nearly explained everything.

technically science has explained nothing, as it is a collection of theroies rather than definitive proof. There are therioes that are our best guess, like darwins theroy of evolution, but it is still a theroy. something can be disproven by science, but nothing can be proven.

To be honest I'm not sure why I felt the need to say this.

It really depends on how you define the word proven.
Some people will argue that you can't prove that the universe is real.

IMO science have proven A LOT of important things!
The Higgs boson (originally called "The God damned particle"), gravity, the fact that the earth is round and not flat, the existance of "black holes" (they were originally just theorized to exist untill we had photographic evidence), quantum theory, etc.

Science does work!
The problem is that people don't understand what a scientific theory is.

  • 01.01.2013 11:33 AM PDT

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I don't believe in magic.


I dont see how that is relevant...


That's your problem.

  • 01.01.2013 11:38 AM PDT


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Posted by: foreveraloner35

Posted by: Final Rose
Yes, because I'm not a pessimist idiot.


I simply don't believe that my soul will go somewhere else after I have died.


You believe in a soul but no in an afterlife?


I believe in a soul, but not as something that can be transported. You are your soul, you do not possess one.

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Posted by: Rabid Grunt 3

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I don't believe in magic.


I dont see how that is relevant...


That's your problem.


Not really. Living and consciousness could be considered "magic" seeing as we no where nearly fully understand it. In that case, how is life after death so ridiculous?

  • 01.01.2013 11:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I don't believe in magic.


I dont see how that is relevant...


That's your problem.


Not really. Living and consciousness could be considered "magic" seeing as we no where nearly fully understand it. In that case, how is life after death so ridiculous?


It just seems completely insane and magical to me, the idea that we're some kind of supreme race that live on even after we die yet the millions of other animals don't?

In my opinion you're dead and that's the end, I just can't see it any other way.

  • 01.01.2013 11:46 AM PDT


Posted by: Rabid Grunt 3

Posted by: I Judge Bread I

Posted by: Rabid Grunt 3

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I don't believe in magic.


I dont see how that is relevant...


That's your problem.


Not really. Living and consciousness could be considered "magic" seeing as we no where nearly fully understand it. In that case, how is life after death so ridiculous?
Because it was invented thousands of years ago by groups of people looking to gain power and have control over people? Either this thing that can't be explained is true, or some people lied to gain power. Just friggin' think.

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No, due to lack of any emperical evidence to support the idea that I will live after death.

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Posted by: elsnben
My response, is You can't know something until you've done it, and nobody has ever (truely) died for a long enouther period to know. therefore, how can we know what happens after death?

Well, you tell me; Complete shutdown of every single biological system that enables us to perceive and react to stimuli is going to bring about what type of sensation?

Basic logic tells me: NO SENSATION

  • 01.01.2013 12:05 PM PDT


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Posted by: elsnben
My response, is You can't know something until you've done it, and nobody has ever (truely) died for a long enouther period to know. therefore, how can we know what happens after death?

Well, you tell me; Complete shutdown of every single biological system that enables us to perceive and react to stimuli is going to bring about what type of sensation?

Basic logic tells me: NO SENSATION


We can't say for sure. Souls probably give us an even greater perception of things, by expanding on our sixth sense.


Meh, I believe in an afterlife. I just don't know what to expect though. Heaven would probably be nice.

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  • 01.01.2013 12:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: mav1972kit
We can't say for sure. Souls probably give us an even greater perception of things, by expanding on our sixth sense.

Souls? Please explain why a "soul" is necessary to give a biological organism life. I believe enough knowledge has been gathered in the realms of neurology to deem our complex neural networks the reason we can have thought, not some transcendant shadow of a body that superimposes our physical one.

  • 01.01.2013 12:14 PM PDT
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Yeah.

On a purely emotional level I really wish it didn't exist. Emotionally I would much rather that we just ended. But intellectually I think an afterlife makes rather a lot of sense in light of other beliefs (such as a personal God etc.)

  • 01.01.2013 12:18 PM PDT


Posted by: annoyinginge
Posted by: elsnben
Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
The sad truth of the matter is that science hasn't nearly explained everything.

technically science has explained nothing, as it is a collection of theroies rather than definitive proof. There are therioes that are our best guess, like darwins theroy of evolution, but it is still a theroy. something can be disproven by science, but nothing can be proven.

To be honest I'm not sure why I felt the need to say this.

Maybe you just really love sounding like an idiot?

I don't think you've taken a very high science class if you have never seen that in your science book before. They state how nothing can be proven but only supported.

And death is a pretty scary thought. Imagining that your mind just decomposes and it is like how you were before you were even born, just non-existent with nothing going on. I believe in an after-life however and I don't think there is anything offensive about that view so I'll just sit here and laugh at anyone who tries to attack my view.

  • 01.01.2013 12:20 PM PDT

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I'm not concerned with what happens after my life is over, just as I'm not concerned with what happened before my life began.

Glorifying the afterlife undermines the purpose of our life here on earth. I think our lives here on earth is a beautiful thing.

  • 01.01.2013 12:20 PM PDT

I believe there something more. Religious views? no. But something bigger than life? yes.

  • 01.01.2013 12:22 PM PDT

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What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.

No. It would be very hard to convince me back into believing that.

  • 01.01.2013 12:27 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


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So far 47% of people here are idiots. When you die, you die. If life went on for eternity, it would make life meaningless. Might as well kill yourself now since you'll still somehow be alive afterwards.

The majority of that 47% is most likely agnostic. You are the Idiot think that you know something, that none of us can know.
Yeah, you can know. It's logic. Use it. Believe what you will, but please, I ask you to think just a bit harder.

I hate this thread, It's making me want to argue and I can't help it.

My response, is You can't know something until you've done it, and nobody has ever (truely) died for a long enouther period to know. therefore, how can we know what happens after death?

Actually, Paragon Renegade, a friend of mine who sometimes comes to this forum has died before. He told me nothing happens.

  • 01.01.2013 12:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ric_Adbur
No one should ever be afraid of looking stupid, so long as they are making a rational effort to expand their understanding.

Life after death only exists in the sense that you leave your DNA in a trail behind you that in one way or another perpetuates various biological cycles. Be it your children, your errant shedding of skin cells, or defecation. Perhaps something can be said for your significant credited contribution to the arts or sciences. That is the limit to your life after death, something your conscious self will most certainly not perceive.

  • 01.01.2013 12:41 PM PDT

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Maybe. Maybe not. Nobody knows until they're dead. Or maybe they won't know.

  • 01.01.2013 12:43 PM PDT

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No, cuz lack of evidence

  • 01.01.2013 12:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Locke357
No, cuz lack of evidence
That's my one regret as an atheist; I'll never be able to come back and say "SEE! I TOLD YOU NOTHING HAPPENS!"

  • 01.01.2013 12:46 PM PDT