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Subject: Equality is mutual inferiority.

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No, acnboy. Spartain Ken 15 is a lesser being. Much like the bacteria that lives in your shi­t.
Posted by: mike120593
My shi­t bacteria takes offense to that comparison.

Don't make me lel. You won't like me when I lel.

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Posted by: Astinous
making everyone inferior.
...
Inferiority, however, will gladly coexist with itself.
what are you even talking about

disadvantaged minorities (or sometimes, majorities) are always the only ones to ask for equalityoh golly gee I wonder why this is


tl;dr you're an idiot
Why is this coming from someone who can't even punctuate properly?
wasn't required to get my point across, and I've been drinking

(it's not required here either btw)

  • 01.01.2013 2:53 AM PDT

Life?
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Posted by: Astinous
If Hell exploited Heaven, Heaven should explode Hell. Eliminaate it, you understand?
then they just swap places; nothing has changed and nothing has been gained.

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Beauty is not subjective. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Prove me wrong.
I dare you.
My logic is undeniable.


Posted by: Garshne
I guess we should just let poor people suffer then. Who cares; I'm rich!


Of course. It's their fault they're suffering.

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Garshne
I guess we should just let poor people suffer then. Who cares; I'm rich!


Of course. It's their fault they're suffering.
Oh yeah, because they're not trying hard enough, right?

  • 01.01.2013 2:55 AM PDT
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Beauty is not subjective. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Prove me wrong.
I dare you.
My logic is undeniable.


Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Garshne
I guess we should just let poor people suffer then. Who cares; I'm rich!


Of course. It's their fault they're suffering.
Oh yeah, because they're not trying hard enough, right?


Of course. Steve Jobs earned his place. Abraham Lincoln earned his place.

  • 01.01.2013 2:56 AM PDT

There is now law that says basic social equality will break society.

This thread is dumb.

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Garshne
I guess we should just let poor people suffer then. Who cares; I'm rich!


Of course. It's their fault they're suffering.
Oh yeah, because they're not trying hard enough, right?


Of course. Steve Jobs earned his place. Abraham Lincoln earned his place.
"Set of factors or events by which poverty, once started, is likely to continue unless there is outside intervention."
A diagram

No money = no investment = no development = no money.

  • 01.01.2013 3:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
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Being alone.
You're a mod, you should be used to that.


Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Garshne
I guess we should just let poor people suffer then. Who cares; I'm rich![/quote]

Of course. It's their fault they're suffering.[/quote]Oh yeah, because they're not trying hard enough, right?


Of course. Steve Jobs earned his place. Abraham Lincoln earned his place.
"Set of factors or events by which poverty, once started, is likely to continue unless there is outside intervention."
A diagram

No money = no investment = no development = no money.
Tell that to my Uncle who was literally living in a trailer home all the way up to the age of 20 and was making over fifteen million dollars a year in his prime.

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Garshne
I guess we should just let poor people suffer then. Who cares; I'm rich![/quote]

Of course. It's their fault they're suffering.[/quote]Oh yeah, because they're not trying hard enough, right?


Of course. Steve Jobs earned his place. Abraham Lincoln earned his place.
"Set of factors or events by which poverty, once started, is likely to continue unless there is outside intervention."
A diagram

No money = no investment = no development = no money.
Tell that to my Uncle who was literally living in a trailer home all the way up to the age of 20 and was making over fifteen million dollars a year in his prime.
Did he have outside influence on that, however? Say, he found someone who hired him and payed him more money than he was getting beforehand?

If that first thing had not happened, then he would have been forever contained in that cycle.

  • 01.01.2013 3:04 AM PDT

So the "unfortunate" feel it is morally correct to take from the "fortunate", but that it is not the other way around?

Say Bob wants an apple. So bob goes outside, and picks an apple.
Steve see's the apple, and wants it. Instead of getting his own he try's to take from bob.

Bob is stronger, because he put in the effort to grab an apple of his own, and is able to fend of Steve.

So Steve accuses, Bob of being unfair.

I could understand if Bob made Steve get the apple, but that is not always the case.

I work a lot, and get little, because so much goes to taxes, to pay for those who will not work for it.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 3:12 AM PST]

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: Vanerrad
So the "unfortunate" feel it is morally correct to take from the "fortunate", but that it is not the other way around?

Say Bob wants an apple. So bob goes outside, and picks an apple.
Steve see's the apple, and wants it. Instead of getting his own he try's to take from bob.

Bob is stronger, because he put in the effort to grab an apple of his own, and is able to fend of Steve.

So Steve accuses, Bob of being unfair.
But what happens if there are no apples left on the tree?

What if the reason there are no apples on the tree was because Bob took them all?

What if Steve grew the tree for Bob but Bob doesn't give Steve any apples?

[Edited on 01.01.2013 3:12 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 3:10 AM PDT

Life?
I have the internet and Doctor Who; i don't need a life.


Posted by: Vanerrad
So the "unfortunate" feel it is morally correct to take from the "fortunate", but that it is not the other way around?

Say Bob wants an apple. So bob goes outside, and picks an apple.
Steve see's the apple, and wants it. Instead of getting his own he try's to take from bob.

Bob is stronger, because he put in the effort to grab an apple of his own, and is able to fend of Steve.

So Steve accuses, Bob of being unfair.
if there is no way for Steve to get another apple then Bob should share his with him.

  • 01.01.2013 3:11 AM PDT

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

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Speaking of chuckles, let's all lol at IonicPaul, who makes friends with bugs to make up for his lack of human contact.

Posted by: colbyrules8
Tell that to my Uncle who was literally living in a trailer home all the way up to the age of 20 and was making over fifteen million dollars a year in his prime.

Tell that to my family friend who got up every to work his terrible job that didn't even legally count as one until he got "fired" (really, laid off, but they wanted to pin a mistake on him first). Then, unemployed, he searched for dozens of jobs. Because he had little to no medical care, he suffered a high level infection spreading from his testicles. He was operated on so that he wouldn't die, and now he's crippled for a good while and can't get a job. Because California is closing adult schools left and right, it's getting even harder for him to find a place to get his GED, and if he could, he'd be in working condition, which means he would be working to single-handedly support the two children in his household. He is in a cycle of poverty. He can't escape.

So don't you dare take some (literally) one a few dozen million anecdotal story and use it to slander every poor person like they deserve to suffer for something most of them were born into (or dragged into by reckless banks). I thought this Social Darwinism crap was gone. Guess I was wrong.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 3:14 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 3:12 AM PDT


Posted by: CultMiester4000

Posted by: Vanerrad
So the "unfortunate" feel it is morally correct to take from the "fortunate", but that it is not the other way around?

Say Bob wants an apple. So bob goes outside, and picks an apple.
Steve see's the apple, and wants it. Instead of getting his own he try's to take from bob.

Bob is stronger, because he put in the effort to grab an apple of his own, and is able to fend of Steve.

So Steve accuses, Bob of being unfair.
if there is no way for Steve to get another apple then Bob should share his with him.
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.

Cause Bob will grow to tired to support them both, and steve will still do nothing.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 3:18 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 3:15 AM PDT


Posted by: Astinous

Human society has always consisted of a class-based hierarchy. This is a fact.


This is false.


Even in a reality in which 'right' and 'wrong' are false concepts, inferiority and superiority aren't.


Right and wrong aren't "false", they're just subjective concepts. Inferiority and superiority are also subjective because the metric on which superiority/inferiority are measured is subjective.


So when I hear the world "equality", I get the feeling that those of the 'lower castes', so to speak, are attempting to usurp the oligarchs of their (rightful) place either by replacement or misplacement


Wat. There are no "rightful" oligarchs. You yourself stated that right and wrong are false concepts (which isn't really true as I corrected, but w/e).


For superiority occupies one throne and shares it with no one.
Inferiority, however, will gladly coexist with itself.


No idea what you're trying to say here.


disadvantaged minorities (or sometimes, majorities) are always the only ones to ask for equality.


False. Many well off people want equality. Equality isn't really a single thing though, there are many proposed forms of it.


Women, African descendants, -blam!-Iy disoriented individuals, and the economically unwell are and have been in a constant struggle to change the system in which they reside instead of becoming the major gear, and while it is admirable, it is also detrimental. What it has caused is an abherrant mixture of the defining characteristics of each of the classes, yet still mantaining a hierarchical structurre.


No clue what you're trying to say here either.

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: IonicPaul
Posted by: colbyrules8
Tell that to my Uncle who was literally living in a trailer home all the way up to the age of 20 and was making over fifteen million dollars a year in his prime.

Tell that to my family friend who got up every to work his terrible job that didn't even legally count as one until he got "fired" (really, laid off, but they wanted to pin a mistake on him first). Then, unemployed, he searched for dozens of jobs. Because he had little to no medical care, he suffered a high level infection spreading from his testicles. He was operated on so that he wouldn't die, and now he's crippled for a good while and can't get a job. Because California is closing adult schools left and right, it's getting even harder for him to find a place to get his GED, and if he could, he'd be in working condition, which means he would be working to single-handedly support the two children in his household. He is in a cycle of poverty. He can't escape.

So don't you dare take some (literally) one a few dozen million anecdotal story and use it to slander every poor person like they deserve to suffer for something most of them were born into (or dragged into by reckless banks). I thought this Social Darwinism crap was gone. Guess I was wrong.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.
The ultracapitalists would have you believe that it's your friend's fault for getting infected.

  • 01.01.2013 3:17 AM PDT

Life?
I have the internet and Doctor Who; i don't need a life.


Posted by: Vanerrad
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.
either one gets all and one gets none and starves, or they both get half and neither starve.

  • 01.01.2013 3:18 AM PDT

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

If you're interested in Halo's music, check this out.

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Speaking of chuckles, let's all lol at IonicPaul, who makes friends with bugs to make up for his lack of human contact.

Posted by: Garshne
The ultracapitalists would have you believe that it's your friend's fault for getting infected.
Hold me.

oops sorry i'm weak i shouldn't burden your stronger being with my problems

(joking kind of)

  • 01.01.2013 3:20 AM PDT


Posted by: IonicPaul
Posted by: colbyrules8
Tell that to my Uncle who was literally living in a trailer home all the way up to the age of 20 and was making over fifteen million dollars a year in his prime.

Tell that to my family friend who got up every to work his terrible job that didn't even legally count as one until he got "fired" (really, laid off, but they wanted to pin a mistake on him first). Then, unemployed, he searched for dozens of jobs. Because he had little to no medical care, he suffered a high level infection spreading from his testicles. He was operated on so that he wouldn't die, and now he's crippled for a good while and can't get a job. Because California is closing adult schools left and right, it's getting even harder for him to find a place to get his GED, and if he could, he'd be in working condition, which means he would be working to single-handedly support the two children in his household. He is in a cycle of poverty. He can't escape.

So don't you dare take some (literally) one a few dozen million anecdotal story and use it to slander every poor person like they deserve to suffer for something most of them were born into (or dragged into by reckless banks). I thought this Social Darwinism crap was gone. Guess I was wrong.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.


But you're also using an anecdotal story...

  • 01.01.2013 3:20 AM PDT


Posted by: CultMiester4000

Posted by: Vanerrad
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.
either one gets all and one gets none and starves, or they both get half and neither starve.


But then Steve has no incentive to work if he can just rely on someone else providing for him.

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: Vanerrad
Posted by: CultMiester4000
Posted by: Vanerrad
So the "unfortunate" feel it is morally correct to take from the "fortunate", but that it is not the other way around?

Say Bob wants an apple. So bob goes outside, and picks an apple.
Steve see's the apple, and wants it. Instead of getting his own he try's to take from bob.

Bob is stronger, because he put in the effort to grab an apple of his own, and is able to fend of Steve.

So Steve accuses, Bob of being unfair.
if there is no way for Steve to get another apple then Bob should share his with him.
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.

Cause Bob will grow to tired to support them both, and steve will still do nothing.
How do you know Steve has done nothing and will do nothing? How do you know that Steve doesn't slave away in his orchard every day, never able to eat any of the apples he sells because he needs the money from the apples he sells so that he still has an orchard the next day? So when Bob goes ahead and takes the last free apple and tells Steve he's a lazy -blam!- who doesn't deserve anything, is that not slightly offensive?

  • 01.01.2013 3:21 AM PDT


Posted by: CultMiester4000

Posted by: Vanerrad
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.
either one gets all and one gets none and starves, or they both get half and neither starve.
So what does Steve do? Sit there? It is not equality for Bob to do all the work for half the profit, and Steve not to work for half the profit.


How do you know Steve has done nothing and will do nothing? How do you know that Steve doesn't slave away in his orchard every day, never able to eat any of the apples he sells because he needs the money from the apples he sells so that he still has an orchard the next day? So when Bob goes ahead and takes the last free apple and tells Steve he's a lazy -blam!- who doesn't deserve anything, is that not slightly offensive?


It's offensive to call me greedy when I only make enough to take care of myself, and then to take what I earn to give to those that don't. Taking from Bob to give to steve, will put bob into dire straights and then they both can't make it.

There are some who are taking advantage of the little guy, but the little guy, is no better when he takes advantage of someone else who is barely getting buy.


[Edited on 01.01.2013 3:29 AM PST]

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: Vanerrad
Posted by: CultMiester4000
Posted by: Vanerrad
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.
either one gets all and one gets none and starves, or they both get half and neither starve.
So what does Steve do? Sit there? It is not equality for Bob to do all the work for half the profit, and Steve not to work for half the profit.
What Bob should do is not take all the apples in the first place. Leave an apple there for Steve to pick himself.

  • 01.01.2013 3:24 AM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

The OP made no sense.

  • 01.01.2013 3:25 AM PDT


Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: Vanerrad
Posted by: CultMiester4000
Posted by: Vanerrad
And then Steve should in turn, do something for Bob, rather than sit back and make bob do all the work, because twice the work for half the profit means in the end they will both starve.
either one gets all and one gets none and starves, or they both get half and neither starve.
So what does Steve do? Sit there? It is not equality for Bob to do all the work for half the profit, and Steve not to work for half the profit.
What Bob should do is not take all the apples in the first place. Leave an apple there for Steve to pick himself.


There are plenty of other apples. Steve just refuses to pick them because it would require work, so instead he demands the government force Bob to share with him.

  • 01.01.2013 3:25 AM PDT