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Subject: If Star Wars I, II and III had been released on their own

So they were released at the same time as they were but IV, V and VI were never made, how do you think people would have reacted to them?

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Probably have a better opinion about them, without all the nostalgia.

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People probably wouldn't of hated them nearly as much, but the franchise itself wouldn't have gotten as large and famous as it has.

  • 01.01.2013 7:04 AM PDT

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Best way to watch Star Wars:

New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clone
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi

For the people that some reason can't stand Phantom Menace, just opt it out of the order and watch it as an Expanded Universe material.

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The three original films built up the fanbase, and defined what Star Wars is and isn't. If Star Wars was originally a CGI-fest then the fanbase would be built up of those that enjoy such a thing, and so Star Wars fans would like the prequels and think the originals are lackluster.

  • 01.01.2013 7:18 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


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They would have reacted far better because there wouldn't be a pre-established canon they destroyed. There were so many things about the prequels that invalidated things in the originals. The Force was effectively destroyed, for example.

These touch on the discrepancies fairly well.

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Opinions would be better, but ticket sales would be waaaaaaaay down

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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
The Force was effectively destroyed, for example.
I've heard this comment a number of times, and I don't understand it. Perhaps now I can get an answer? What do you mean? I've seen the Plinkett videos before, and whilst humorous, they're dumb and don't make much sense.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 7:22 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 7:21 AM PDT

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Machete Order! I still need to watch them all in that order some time...

OT: As others have said, probably more positive, not as may ticket sales and it wouldn't have been nearly as successful as Star Wars is today.
Posted by: BlazingAngel94
Best way to watch Star Wars:

New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clone
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi

For the people that some reason can't stand Phantom Menace, just opt it out of the order and watch it as an Expanded Universe material.


[Edited on 01.01.2013 7:24 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 7:21 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
The Force was effectively destroyed, for example.
I've heard this comment a number of times, and I don't understand it. Perhaps now I can get an answer? What do you mean? I've seen the Plinkett videos before, and whilst humorous, they're dumb and don't make much sense.


They replaced the mysticism of the Force with an attempt at scientific explanations. Yoda's "wise sayings" pertaining to the Force are contradicted. Plinkett's reviews actually do an excellent job at outlining these points with examples. I don't remember which video in particular he delved into the destruction of the Force as established in the originals.

  • 01.01.2013 7:25 AM PDT

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I watched I, II, and III before ever watching the others, and I love them so much more! I do love the other ones so much as well too! It's just blind nostalgic people who hate on the new ones!!!

  • 01.01.2013 7:27 AM PDT

Then Star Wars would never be popular because everyone would hate the trilogy.

  • 01.01.2013 7:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Quharke

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
The Force was effectively destroyed, for example.
I've heard this comment a number of times, and I don't understand it. Perhaps now I can get an answer? What do you mean? I've seen the Plinkett videos before, and whilst humorous, they're dumb and don't make much sense.


They replaced the mysticism of the Force with an attempt at scientific explanations. Yoda's "wise sayings" pertaining to the Force are contradicted. Plinkett's reviews actually do an excellent job at outlining these points with examples. I don't remember which video in particular he delved into the destruction of the Force as established in the originals.
Clarification on something doesn't destroy it. For instance, a child would think a TV is mystic - it seemingly produces images and sound out of thin air. Scientific studies would prove, however, that there's nothing magical about it at all. I don't see how any of Yoda's sayings were contradicted.

  • 01.01.2013 7:30 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: TomoK12
It's just blind nostalgic people who hate on the new ones!!!

You can't be serious.

I watched I, II, and III before ever watching the others
Okay, maybe you are.

  • 01.01.2013 7:32 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Quharke
Clarification on something doesn't destroy it.

It was hardly clarification. It was a twenty-second scene where midichlorians were passively mentioned and given a weak explanation. It was unnecessary. They had a pre-existing explanation of the Force courtesy of the original trilogy (Episode V in particular). Applying a scientific explanation that doesn't make sense even within the context of the film's own universe does destroy it.

I don't see how any of Yoda's sayings were contradicted.
Watch the videos again. One example would be Yoda stating that the Force enveloped everything and essentially made the world go round, when actually they're just microorganisms living within sentient beings.

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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Quharke
Clarification on something doesn't destroy it.

It was hardly clarification. It was a twenty-second scene where midichlorians were passively mentioned and given a weak explanation. It was unnecessary. They had a pre-existing explanation of the Force courtesy of the original trilogy (Episode V in particular). Applying a scientific explanation that doesn't make sense even within the context of the film's own universe does destroy it.

I don't see how any of Yoda's sayings were contradicted.
Watch the videos again. One example would be Yoda stating that the Force enveloped everything and essentially made the world go round, when actually they're just microorganisms living within sentient beings.
They didn't have an explanation for the force at all prior. Midi-chlorian. The Force wasn't destroyed through the Midi-chlorian explanation, and all the mystic hasn't been removed.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 7:51 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 7:49 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Quharke

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Quharke
Clarification on something doesn't destroy it.

It was hardly clarification. It was a twenty-second scene where midichlorians were passively mentioned and given a weak explanation. It was unnecessary. They had a pre-existing explanation of the Force courtesy of the original trilogy (Episode V in particular). Applying a scientific explanation that doesn't make sense even within the context of the film's own universe does destroy it.

I don't see how any of Yoda's sayings were contradicted.
Watch the videos again. One example would be Yoda stating that the Force enveloped everything and essentially made the world go round, when actually they're just microorganisms living within sentient beings.
They didn't have an explanation for the force at all prior.

Aaaand any opinion you have on the trilogy discrepancies is now invalidated. Did you even watch Episode V?

As for your link, virtually none of that was explained in the movies, which is all that matters. This is especially true since the films are what we're discussing. All outside media is irrelevant to this discussion.

  • 01.01.2013 7:54 AM PDT

Soul of the mind, key to life's ether
Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel
May strength be granted so the world might be mended...
So the world might be mended...

I don't remember any of what he said there, apart from Anakin having an extraordinarily high amount, but couldn't the explanation be that the midochlorians allow people to use the force, while the force still being what Yoda originally said?
Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Quharke
Clarification on something doesn't destroy it.

It was hardly clarification. It was a twenty-second scene where midichlorians were passively mentioned and given a weak explanation. It was unnecessary. They had a pre-existing explanation of the Force courtesy of the original trilogy (Episode V in particular). Applying a scientific explanation that doesn't make sense even within the context of the film's own universe does destroy it.

I don't see how any of Yoda's sayings were contradicted.
Watch the videos again. One example would be Yoda stating that the Force enveloped everything and essentially made the world go round, when actually they're just microorganisms living within sentient beings.

  • 01.01.2013 7:55 AM PDT

Assuming that they won't have the special effects they have now, I would say people would be fairly impressed by them (although it would be funny to see peoples' eyes melt because of our technological advances.) They had elements of a good story, and actually, would be very counter-culture to how movie plots were played out then. It's quite possible that they would have made 4, 5, and 6 look really bad.

  • 01.01.2013 7:56 AM PDT

"hurr durr the star wars movies that was popular during my time was better"


I love every movie, maybe the prequels more since it got Ewan McGregor in it.

  • 01.01.2013 7:59 AM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Shiro2809
I don't remember any of what he said there, apart from Anakin having an extraordinarily high amount, but couldn't the explanation be that the midochlorians allow people to use the force, while the force still being what Yoda originally said?
Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Quharke
Clarification on something doesn't destroy it.

It was hardly clarification. It was a twenty-second scene where midichlorians were passively mentioned and given a weak explanation. It was unnecessary. They had a pre-existing explanation of the Force courtesy of the original trilogy (Episode V in particular). Applying a scientific explanation that doesn't make sense even within the context of the film's own universe does destroy it.

I don't see how any of Yoda's sayings were contradicted.
Watch the videos again. One example would be Yoda stating that the Force enveloped everything and essentially made the world go round, when actually they're just microorganisms living within sentient beings.


That's true I guess. It still doesn't make sense as to why one's ability to manipulate the supernatural is quantified by biological organisms, but whatever. Either way, legions of Star Wars nerds far more devoted than I hate the prequels for canon breaks I am unaware of because I honestly don't care that much.

The prequels were just more poorly done overall what with the shotty acting and forced effects everywhere. I think the number of real sets in the prequels could be counted on one hand if I recall correctly, which adds to actor confusion and just awkward performances depending on the actor.

  • 01.01.2013 8:04 AM PDT
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Why So Serious?

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That comparison is difficult to make...the prequels were only possible because the originals paved the way for sci-fi movies to hold mainstream attention. Without A New Hope back in '77, either sci-fi wouldn't be the entertainment powerhouse that it is now, or some other movie/franchise would have kicked things off.

Still, the original movies have objectively better writing and acting (and direction, in Empire and Jedi). I think the prequels could have been popular, but they wouldn't have had any major cultural impact.

  • 01.01.2013 8:05 AM PDT


Posted by: Chicharito 14
"hurr durr the star wars movies that was popular during my time was better"


I love every movie, maybe the prequels more since it got Ewan McGregor in it.

if you want to continue thinking that those movies were well written and well made then don't watch redlettermedia's reviews of them. they will enlighten you to the fact that obi wan was a dumbass. and that qui gon was a dumbass. anakin was the biggest idiot of them all. even yoda makes some terrible decisions. in fact, mr plinketts reviews basically show that every single character in those movies were dumb retards. apart from that one guard of queen amidala's who spoke too soon, i dont think he did much wrong.

  • 01.01.2013 8:45 AM PDT

Key

Still awful. Jar Jar Binks is the bane of my existence.

Also: They're just fundamentally bad movies.

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  • 01.01.2013 8:46 AM PDT

Posted by: Gen Petitt
ME2 was known for stupidity and being retarded

The first movie wouldn't make enough to money for a second or third at all because I stand by that the only reason it made money at all was 'cause of the Star Wars title relation.

  • 01.01.2013 8:47 AM PDT

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