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Posted by: crazyfoomandude
Haha not the FIRST good counterargument. But the only one you're willing to acknowledge. Good one.

1. He has a source
2. He uses facts pointed out in the source to argue
3. He explains the science instead of just throwing out random "facts" that have no source
Considering you did none of those in the OP, this thread must be garbage by your standards.

  • 01.01.2013 8:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS
Funny how the post was reported when it isn't rule breaking

Funny how people are flaming the OP just because he has a different opinion than you all.

Stay classy Flood.


Kill yourself.


Reported. Stay mature Flood.


Implying the Flood is ever mature

  • 01.01.2013 8:25 AM PDT


Posted by: crazyfoomandude
The point I'd like to make is that not supporting you and disagreeing with your... 'views'... does not require sources and links.

This is a social implication, so your source is the amount of people on this thread who disagree with you.

It's also 21st century thinking, and more countries are taking it on. For example, UK is planning this for 2013 at some point, and they just laughed in the face of the Arch-Bishop.

Get with the times, and stop attacking the ghey community. They don't deserve it.


Yes it does, because biology is a science that is always getting deeper and more complex. It has no room for speculation because science is natural observation. As long as there is ambiguity in a field of science, there will be debate.

  • 01.01.2013 8:25 AM PDT

I agree with the OP but not for the points he mentioned. Unfortunately I'll get banned if I state my reasoning, but I do find it funny how these pro--blam!- people who are complaining about us not tolerating them are some of the most intolerant people I've ever met.

  • 01.01.2013 8:26 AM PDT


Posted by: crazyfoomandude
OP you should kill yourself. Preferably by crucifixion. And bring popcorn for our amusement.

Because -blam!--blam!- and bi-blam!- people deserve the same rights as us? Because there's nothing different with them? If they love another person, they should be allowed to be with that other person.

Seriously, drink bleach and get locked in a stable with a horny horse.

But he, being a homophobe and by extension closet homo-blam!-, would probably enjoy that.

  • 01.01.2013 8:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: SIX SIX SIX

Posted by: crazyfoomandude
Haha not the FIRST good counterargument. But the only one you're willing to acknowledge. Good one.

1. He has a source
2. He uses facts pointed out in the source to argue
3. He explains the science instead of just throwing out random "facts" that have no source
Considering you did none of those in the OP, this thread must be garbage by your standards.


Thank you!

  • 01.01.2013 8:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Biack Rose66
Also, to refute the OP even more, his main argument is that people are not biologically wired to be attracted to the same sex. Recent studies published from the University of Chicago which found that -blam!--blam!-ity stems through pre-natal effects of hormones.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/668167

Abstract: Male and female -blam!--blam!-ity have substantial prevalence in humans. Pedigree and twin studies indicate that -blam!--blam!-ity has substantial heritability in both sexes, yet concordance between identical twins is low and molecular studies have failed to find associated DNA markers. This paradoxical pattern calls for an explanation. We use published data on fetal androgen signaling and gene regulation via nongenetic changes in DNA packaging (epigenetics) to develop a new model for -blam!--blam!-ity. It is well established that fetal androgen signaling strongly influences -blam!- development. We show that an unappreciated feature of this process is reduced androgen sensitivity in XX fetuses and enhanced sensitivity in XY fetuses, and that this difference is most feasibly caused by numerous sex-specific epigenetic modifications ("epi-marks") originating in embryonic stem cells. These epi-marks buffer XX fetuses from masculinization due to excess fetal androgen exposure and similarly buffer XY fetuses from androgen underexposure. Extant data indicates that individual epi-marks influence some but not other -blam!-ly dimorphic traits, vary in strength across individuals, and are produced during ontogeny and erased between generations. Those that escape erasure will steer development of the -blam!- phenotypes they influence in a gonad-discordant direction in opposite sex offspring, mosaically feminizing XY offspring and masculinizing XX offspring. Such sex-specific epi-marks are -blam!-ly antagonistic (SA-epi-marks) because they canalize -blam!- development in the parent that produced them, but contribute to gonad-trait discordances in opposite-sex offspring when unerased. In this model, -blam!--blam!-ity occurs when stronger-than-average SA-epi-marks (influencing -blam!- preference) from an opposite-sex parent escape erasure and are then paired with a weaker-than-average de novo sex-specific epi-marks produced in opposite-sex offspring. Our model predicts that -blam!--blam!-ity is part of a wider phenomenon in which recently evolved androgen-influenced traits commonly display gonad-trait discordances at substantial frequency, and that the molecular feature underlying most -blam!--blam!-ity is not DNA polymorphism(s), but epi-marks that evolved to canalize -blam!- dimorphic development that sometimes carryover across generations and contribute to gonad-trait discordances in opposite-sex descendants.

Educate yourself, Flood.

It's still not a "normal" phenomenon. A normal womb should not be releasing excess androgen to its fetus. Besides, the people who are not actually attracted to their own sex but have relationships with someone of their own sex just because they like them or because it shows how different they are are still just stupid. Homo-blam!-ity has been in human history since forever but (perhaps it is just more widely reported, or they are just less afraid to express it) it seems like it has become much more common since it became more socially acceptable, and I hold the fake-homosex­uals accountable for this.

  • 01.01.2013 8:30 AM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: xl OC Girl lx
I agree with the OP but not for the points he mentioned. Unfortunately I'll get banned if I state my reasoning, but I do find it funny how these pro--blam!- people who are complaining about us not tolerating them are some of the most intolerant people I've ever met.


I don't see what -blam!- orientation has to do with being able to stand a person.

  • 01.01.2013 8:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Forever MS
Funny how the post was reported when it isn't rule breaking

Funny how people are flaming the OP just because he has a different opinion than you all.

Stay classy Flood.


Kill yourself.


Reported. Stay mature Flood.


Implying the Flood is ever mature


Lol now I've heard it all.

  • 01.01.2013 8:31 AM PDT


Posted by: xl OC Girl lx
I agree with the OP but not for the points he mentioned. Unfortunately I'll get banned if I state my reasoning, but I do find it funny how these pro--blam!- people who are complaining about us not tolerating them are some of the most intolerant people I've ever met.


It's really amusing, honestly. I just want to have a decent debate with OP, not attack him. Also, you won't get banned, these posters are just mad that he is trying to attack this from a scientific standpoint.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: SIX SIX SIX
It's still not a "normal" phenomenon.


G@y animals aren't normal?

  • 01.01.2013 8:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: SIX SIX SIX
It's still not a "normal" phenomenon.


G@y animals aren't normal?


Oh God this thread is going to hell on a hay wagon...

Where are the mods, really?

  • 01.01.2013 8:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: crazyfoomandude

You're honestly an idiot. All I've seen you post today are insults and flaming other people.

Post something intelligent or just stop posting at all.

  • 01.01.2013 8:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SIX SIX SIX
It's still not a "normal" phenomenon.


G@y animals aren't normal?

I can't find a percentage, but I'm pretty sure heterosex­uality is significantly more common.

  • 01.01.2013 8:36 AM PDT


Posted by: SIX SIX SIX

Posted by: NINJA BUNNY 117
So that more children like OP can be prevented from being born into this world.

wow!!!!1!!1! u so funny and original so unbeliebable!!!1!
Thank you, I pride myself on these qualities.

  • 01.01.2013 8:36 AM PDT

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Ha ha ha XD

You're not being much better. Stoking the fire.

  • 01.01.2013 8:37 AM PDT
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Beauty is not subjective. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Prove me wrong.
I dare you.
My logic is undeniable.

I fail to understand why they feel so strongly about marriage. It's only an abstract concept. If they want to spend their lives together, rings aren't necessary at all.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 8:38 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 8:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Astinous
I fail to understand why they feel so strongly about marriage. It's only an abstract concept. If they want to spend their lives together, rings aren't necessary at all.

Probably for attention.

  • 01.01.2013 8:38 AM PDT

“If we will disbelieve everything, because we cannot certainly know all things, we shall do much what as wisely as he who would not use his legs, but sit still and perish, because he had no wings to fly.” - John Locke

"How can anyone be enlightened? Truth after all is so poorly lit." - Rush

This little thing called not being a discriminatory jerk.

You know, live and let live and all that? Just this little idea that all human beings deserve dignity and respect, not something I would expect spoiled flood kiddies to understand.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 8:39 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2013 8:38 AM PDT

@six six six (because I forgot to quote.)

It is not a normal phenomenon, no, but almost nothing is in the developmental stages of a fetus, and later on, growth. A part of nature is that as a species reproduces, it will be exposed to further parts of mutation of the genes. Why else do we have down syndrome or turner syndrome? This study still accounts for the fact androgen signaling is a major factor for -blam!- behavior.

Social acceptance is not what I am here to debate about. I despise much of the community that blindly follows the popular opinion. I am for them being accepted into the community and will leave it at then. Debating over society's standards is toxic and amounts to boring sociological behavior.



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  • 01.01.2013 8:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Astinous
I fail to understand why they feel so strongly about marriage. It's only an abstract concept. If they want to spend their lives together, rings aren't necessary at all.
Isn't there tax benefits and such for newly weds? I'm not 100% sure.

[Edited on 01.01.2013 8:40 AM PST]

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Posted by: SIX SIX SIX

Posted by: Astinous
I fail to understand why they feel so strongly about marriage. It's only an abstract concept. If they want to spend their lives together, rings aren't necessary at all.

Probably for attention.
Atheists get married all the time. Is that for attention too?

  • 01.01.2013 8:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: SIX SIX SIX

It's still not a "normal" phenomenon.
And does that mean it's inherently wrong?

  • 01.01.2013 8:41 AM PDT
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LeaveItYeah

Because I'm not ignorant and feel the need to didactics peoples lifes.

  • 01.01.2013 8:42 AM PDT
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This is a civil rights issue. Due to the separation of church and state,secular governments cannot invoke the 'sanctity' of marriage to defend their legal and nonsectarian points of view. Therefore, what is actually taking place is that the legislature is making laws that restrict the freedoms of a certain social group, which is known as discrimination. I believe the government should ensure legal same-sex marriage, but the clergies can decide among themselves whether to allow it or not.

  • 01.01.2013 8:43 AM PDT

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