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My point, was that there could be simple glitches that happen rarely through System Link and Splitscreen, but commonly through Live.

And the shotgun it fine. It's a very short range weapon, and that's what it's meant to be, and if you just can't adapt to that, well boo-hoo.

  • 07.06.2006 10:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Clayton Bigsby1
Posted by: Marathon Maniac
No, I've never shot a 12 gauge gun, but I don't think Bungie spends all day shooting guns and then comparing it with their games....


err... yeah, they do.

have you ever wondered how they get the sound recording for the human weapons? they go out and shoot them


I wasn't talking about the sound system, I was talking about the actual shooting.....try and read my posts throughly, please.

  • 07.06.2006 10:48 PM PDT
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Flares would hurt...

I HATE the Halo shotguns, have you ever seen what a shotgun can do to a person???? GOD you dont need to be a foot infront of his face to blow it off, thats for sure.

I want the double-barrel shotgun.. no.. no its to primitive..

I want a four-barrel shotgun!

  • 07.06.2006 10:50 PM PDT
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But you have to remember, this is 500 year's in the future.....I would think that the style of guns would change a little.

  • 07.06.2006 10:52 PM PDT
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I would suggest that you upgrade from 56k.
And they are going to make the Shotgun WOrk better this time around.
I asked, And someone answered.

  • 07.06.2006 10:59 PM PDT
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Hey....Clam Bigboy....

Please shut up about the real shotguns. MC HAS SHIELDS. ARE THERE SHIELDS IN REAL LIFE. LAST TIME I CHECKED, NO!

No matter how "damaging" the shotgun could be, it will take time to penetrate the actual shields that Spartans have. And if you read the books, you'd know that even nukes take time to get rid of the bigger shields.

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Posted by: Marathon Maniac
But you have to remember, this is 500 year's in the future.....I would think that the style of guns would change a little.


Ridiculous, in five hundreds years our technology, ESPECIALLY weaponary will evolve ALOT more. The weapons they use in Halo are alot weaker then the actual weapons used now. Do you have any idea how many studys are made?? How big a rockets explosion is now??? Man, halo weapons suck compared to now.

  • 07.06.2006 11:05 PM PDT
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Anyone who thinks there isn't a problem with the shotgun is smoking crack. The weapon is practically useless when you're off-host unless you're playing LAN, and even then it's not nearly as good as it should be.

Oh, and don't try to say that people are "bad" at using a shotgun, because that's just stupid. Anyone who is bad at using the shotgun has broken thumbs, or is playing off-host over Live.

  • 07.06.2006 11:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Marathon Maniac
Hey....Clam Bigboy....

Please shut up about the real shotguns. MC HAS SHIELDS. ARE THERE SHIELDS IN REAL LIFE. LAST TIME I CHECKED, NO!

No matter how "damaging" the shotgun could be, it will take time to penetrate the actual shields that Spartans have. And if you read the books, you'd know that even nukes take time to get rid of the bigger shields.


I do not understand why a rocket, or even three shots from a handgun can take down a spartans shield, but not a nuke.

You good sir, have no logic.

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Posted by: The Misfit
Posted by: Marathon Maniac
Hey....Clam Bigboy....

Please shut up about the real shotguns. MC HAS SHIELDS. ARE THERE SHIELDS IN REAL LIFE. LAST TIME I CHECKED, NO!

No matter how "damaging" the shotgun could be, it will take time to penetrate the actual shields that Spartans have. And if you read the books, you'd know that even nukes take time to get rid of the bigger shields.


I do not understand why a rocket, or even three shots from a handgun can take down a spartans shield, but not a nuke.

You good sir, have no logic.


Maybe because the Spartan's shields are toned down a bit compared to the ship's shields?

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Posted by: Marathon Maniac
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Well, how do you explain the millions of shotgun shells I have fired dead-on at a target and not killed them? The game chooses when to kill almost, just like the lottery. The Halo: CE shotgun at least was useable, without having host, which you couldn't anyway because there was no live for it.


The word "Lag" rings a bell.
Then your damn bell is broken.

The Halo 2 shotgun had lottery effects offline as well.

  • 07.06.2006 11:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Clayton Bigsby1
Posted by: Marathon Maniac
Hey....Clam Bigboy....

Please shut up about the real shotguns. MC HAS SHIELDS. ARE THERE SHIELDS IN REAL LIFE. LAST TIME I CHECKED, NO!

No matter how "damaging" the shotgun could be, it will take time to penetrate the actual shields that Spartans have. And if you read the books, you'd know that even nukes take time to get rid of the bigger shields.


it doesn't matter whether or not the MC has shields. YES IT DOES!!!! OMG ARE YOU STUPID

they can't take an infinite amount of damage, and look at the sword, one lunge equals instant death, so yes, a shotgun really could kill the MC in one shot WELL A SWORD IS A COVENANT WEAPON DUMBASS.....OF COURSE IT GOES THROUGH SHIELDS

and your arguement about nukes and covanent shields isn't relavent because the covenant ships' shields are exponentially more powerful than the MC's shields, so yes, a single nuke would not take them down, but a MAC round will


And that last part......what the hell are you trying to say? Sorry, but you're angering me a little.

  • 07.06.2006 11:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Clayton Bigsby1
Posted by: The Misfit
Posted by: Marathon Maniac
But you have to remember, this is 500 year's in the future.....I would think that the style of guns would change a little.


Ridiculous, in five hundreds years our technology, ESPECIALLY weaponary will evolve ALOT more. The weapons they use in Halo are alot weaker then the actual weapons used now. Do you have any idea how many studys are made?? How big a rockets explosion is now??? Man, halo weapons suck compared to now.


i agree, but if you read the halo 1 manual, it says that our technology hasn't progressed that much


But it's still more advanced that what we have now, regardless of how far they're progressed.

  • 07.06.2006 11:17 PM PDT
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the halo 2 shotgun is ok
it only sucks against shields
i killed a guy on split screen when he didn't have a shield about 10 metres away with the shot gun, i did it again but it would have been closer

lag online seems to make it suck online, only what ive heard, i don't have xboxlive

for halo 3 the shot gun has to be more accurate, not the reticle but the shots should land in side it

  • 07.06.2006 11:21 PM PDT
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heck yes the shotgun should be improved. at least in the old halo it was usable. now it is a "lottery cannon" and even so has to be nearly point blank range.

now i dont know how many of you have ever shot a shotgun in real life. everyone says they are so damaging. do you know why? because the shot (bullets) are like tiny little bbs (yes the little things you put in your red ryder ) are compact as they leave the barrel. this of course will act as a very large and powerful "bullet" due to they are so close together at close range. as they move further away however they are meant to spread out to take out primarily game birds (this is why you dont take a 45-70 out duck hunting). hence how a shotgun works.

my problem too however is the range the shot spreads. ive shot the shotgun in halo and it has its spread like a 5-foot diameter on the wall when im like ten feet away. now this is completely unethical. i understand that if they make it completely realistic it would be extremely good, but the matter of fact is that the random shot and poor spread make it a very difficult weapon to trust your Halo lives with.

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Posted by: Little Lee77
It's not because the shotgun is crappy, or underpowered, it is because it is laggy due to you playing on live. Simple as that.

While less random, a shotgun can still fail to kill an enemy point blank in an offline game. I've seen it happen. The H2 shotty needs to be tweaked.

  • 07.06.2006 11:25 PM PDT

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