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Posted by: Recon Number 54
If one is aware that they have a persona (famous or infamous), or are known to others, then complain that "I am recognized and treated differently (differently than I desire for certain) when I go out among the common folk" I am hearing a little too much "woe is me, why is my fame/infamy causing such a disruption? Boo hoo hooo. Save me Sir Knight from those who treat me as they choose and not as I would have them"
What part of my post did I claim to be one of the only ones being a subject of this? Hell, I barely post on the mains already for this exact reason. You're trying to invalidate my opinion because of my username, and that isn't fair. Everything I talked about in the OP, each thread I linked, and each example I gave, were things that had nothing to do with me or anyone related to me at all.
And when I look around, see mud (and poo) being slung, I don't see anyone cloaked in white, rising above the mayhem and refusing to participate. Roll in the dirt with dogs, and the fleas are inevitable.
I said in the OP that everyone is guilty of it sometimes. I said that I go too far with my joking sometimes. But there is a huge difference in me joking around with a friend of mine and someone telling someone else that he can't tell what gender she is. That's just sheer nastiness and whether it's directed at me or someone I don't care about, it makes me not want to bother coming around.
IMO, this is more PGD (Private Group Drama) that is spilling into the mains. I, for one, am way too old for this crap.
Please show me in my post where I mentioned any private groups. Once again, you're being completely unfair simply because of my username. This has less than nothing to do with my private group and was very obviously an observation of the Flood, an observation, by the way, that a ton of people in this thread who aren't involved in my private group share.
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: elmicker
What bungie.net really needs is some sort of list whereupon people can be arbitrarily placed with no justification, banning their participation and precluding even the very discussion of their existence under pain of being added to the same list one's self.
That'd make this place excellent.
You do realize that you just caused a "back to the drawing board" moment for those who are working on .Next?
And who's feeding the private group drama now? How can you tell me with a straight face, in a thread that was made with examples in the Flood, that I'm trying to further private group drama, and two posts later respond to it and further it yourself?
This is beyond outrageous.
Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am here to make sure that the community as a whole is welcoming, friendly and open.
And it's not working, as evidenced by dozens of people agreeing with my points. It's not welcoming, friendly, and open. It's a hateful place filled with despicable people which you apparently have no problem allowing as long as they don't offend white males.
I really can't believe what I'm reading from a moderator of this website. You are quite literally saying, in public, that you aren't going to protect people unless they line up with your opinion of what is "mainstream". Transphobia? Doesn't matter. Using a slur used to hurt people who aren't straight? Why care? Telling a girl she has a dick and is ugly? Why does it matter? There aren't that many girls anyway.
The Bungie community (stand by, major old-timer memory coming on) was originally a VERY rowdy place. People were more than willing to barb, slight, and poke at each other. It came with the territory. No one took it personally, it was akin to dorm-room pranks and brothers punching each other on the arm. Anyone who came into that community who was easily offended or hurt, well they either learned to keep up, or they left crying.
I don't care what the Bungie.net community used to be like. If you're saying that we should just stay they way we always have been, then what's the point of this forum we're posting in at all?
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Because if we're supposed to be open-minded and tolerant, we also have to allow people to have the right to "poor judgement and attitudes". To me, there is very little that I consider a sacred cow and while it may be rude to fart in church, it should never be illegal. (bad metaphor? too bad)
Erm, that's not what the Code of Conduct says. Being open-minded and tolerant is about allowing people to hold opinions we disagree with while not being jerks. Over half the community can't seem to grasp the second part.
I am not about to become the "this person's worldview is wrong and so they are out" police. It's a slippery slope that I won't even come near.
Haha... What am I even reading at this point...
There is no slippery slope. You ban people for being dicks, not for holding opinions. Disagreeing with same-sex marriage is fine, calling someone a name for being interested in the same sex is not. The Code of Conduct is sitting right there, man. It's a click away and everything on it supports what I'm saying.
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Maybe I'm going to be banned for this post. Maybe you'll take it like I was attacking you, being a jerk, call me a hypocrite, and stop caring. Maybe you'll decide that all of this was a publicity stunt and that I'm just some guy trying to cause trouble. That's fine. As God as my witness, this thread is sincere.
I expect nothing more from the moderating team of this site. I like some of you guys, I really do. But some of the stuff I've seen from some of you behind closed doors recently - and hell, now out in the open - really is sad. I used to care about this community, it's why I stayed here for four years. This thread has done nothing but prove my point, and this really wasn't something I wanted to be this right about.
Lock it up if you want to. I'm not checking back into the Septagon for a very, very long time.