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Posted by: DarkBen64
Would you look at that, either Harlow or Jay is proving my point. They can't take the slightest criticism about themselves. I've just been kicked from Sapphire. That's kind of pitiful really.


I'm the sole admin.

As it were, Sapphire is the one place where I actually can do something about negativity.

  • 01.02.2013 4:50 AM PDT


Posted by: Harlow

Posted by: DarkBen64
Would you look at that, either Harlow or Jay is proving my point. They can't take the slightest criticism about themselves. I've just been kicked from Sapphire. That's kind of pitiful really.


I'm the sole admin.

As it were, Sapphire is the one place where I actually can do something about negativity.
Criticism is not negativity. If you can't take criticism and resort to booting members because of it, then you're not any better than the terrible trolls the Flood has been seeing recently.

"Come to Sapphire, you can discuss anything you want that's disallowed in the main forums!"
>Mentions criticism of member of Sapphire outside the group
>booted

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

  • 01.02.2013 4:53 AM PDT

Honestly, this must be a joke. Child, listen, stop trying to defend yourself because clearly you are incapable of it. The only idiot in this thread is yourself, and trust me, it is obvious. So, how about you do as I asked earlier and log off, mommy and daddy wouldn't want you staying up this late.
-- Direct Control, BAMF

This community is a cesspit not worth anyone's time; that will never change. There are even people championing that, I don't have to tell you.

I suppose your self-awareness and ability to trudge through garbage are admirable.

  • 01.02.2013 4:54 AM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: DarkBen64
Would you look at that, either Harlow or Jay is proving my point. They can't take the slightest criticism about themselves. I've just been kicked from Sapphire. That's kind of pitiful really.
Maybe because this isn't a thread about Sapphire and he's tired of dealing with people using this as an opportunity to air their grievances against it instead of discussing the topic at hand?

  • 01.02.2013 4:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
This community is a cesspit not worth anyone's time; that will never change. There are even people championing that, I don't have to tell you.

I suppose your self-awareness and ability to trudge through garbage are admirable.


Guess you're right. I won't bother anymore.

  • 01.02.2013 4:59 AM PDT


Posted by: jaythenerdkid

Posted by: DarkBen64
Would you look at that, either Harlow or Jay is proving my point. They can't take the slightest criticism about themselves. I've just been kicked from Sapphire. That's kind of pitiful really.
Maybe because this isn't a thread about Sapphire and he's tired of dealing with people using this as an opportunity to air their grievances against it instead of discussing the topic at hand?
It was a grievance of him, not the group. Since we're discussing flaws of certain members, as he's so quick to point out often enough, it's perfectly valid.

  • 01.02.2013 4:59 AM PDT

Honestly, this must be a joke. Child, listen, stop trying to defend yourself because clearly you are incapable of it. The only idiot in this thread is yourself, and trust me, it is obvious. So, how about you do as I asked earlier and log off, mommy and daddy wouldn't want you staying up this late.
-- Direct Control, BAMF

Posted by: Harlow
Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
This community is a cesspit not worth anyone's time; that will never change. There are even people championing that, I don't have to tell you.

I suppose your self-awareness and ability to trudge through garbage are admirable.


Guess you're right. I won't bother anymore.

Just to clarify, that last line was a general one for the those champions I mentioned.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 5:01 AM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 5:01 AM PDT

Why do I get the strange feeling all this "Hate" is pouring out from the Drama in the Private Groups? This is exactly why I'm almost rarely active in even the most active of private groups.

  • 01.02.2013 5:04 AM PDT

Honestly, this must be a joke. Child, listen, stop trying to defend yourself because clearly you are incapable of it. The only idiot in this thread is yourself, and trust me, it is obvious. So, how about you do as I asked earlier and log off, mommy and daddy wouldn't want you staying up this late.
-- Direct Control, BAMF

Posted by: Gaara444
Why do I get the strange feeling all this "Hate" is pouring out from the Drama in the Private Groups? This is exactly why I'm almost rarely active in even the most active of private groups.

This thread has nothing to do with private groups, but Harlow is the admin of Sapphire, which tends to inspire rage in many.

  • 01.02.2013 5:06 AM PDT

Why? I hardly ever visit the place, but what's so bad about Sapphire?

Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
This thread has nothing to do with private groups, but Harlow is the admin of Sapphire, which tends to inspire rage in many.

  • 01.02.2013 5:08 AM PDT

I Would Have Been Your Daddy


Posted by: Harlow
Bungie.net has a culture problem. A culture problem that I believe is detrimental to the growth and success of the website.
"Culture problem"? Dude, c'mon.
There's a reason it's called The Flood


Hostility is not really something I see talked about much here so I figured this was worth a thread..
Ok, let's see what u got.


The Flood's not a pleasant place, and it never really has been..
(In your opinion)


In fact, it got so bad that the Big Man had to step in and do this..
(back in 2008)


It kind of feels like the entire community, moderators and members both, have forgotten that being a jerk is a bad thing..
Dude, try sending them a PM.


Anyone who posts often on the Flood can see this. People are constantly tossing around insults, and pretty nasty ones at that..
you mean like; your mom jokes? Anyway, send the mods a PM


Let me stop here and say that I am not trying to be negative and judgmental towards the moderation team. I know that holding that position is difficult from experience elsewhere, I know how exhausting and bothersome the job is..
Lol, as if


I'm aware that moderators can't be everywhere at all times to ban people who are hurling nasty insults at someone..
So why post this thread then?


This is just as much a call to members. Every one of us are given a report button so we can help keep the forums clean,.
As if we can be at all placec at once


but who really uses it unless they're upset over something an OP said? How often do you see a post reported aside from OPs and harmful links?.
It takes more than one report anyway, so


but why in the hell are people in these huge threads not reporting these types of posts?.
for the teh lulz


because a civilized person has no reason to spend their time being involved in a community that harbors these types of people..
Lol, The Flood. Civilized.


It's a real problem that needs to be fixed.
It's funny because it's true

  • 01.02.2013 5:08 AM PDT

I'll admit this community can be pretty hostile, but it's not near as bad as a few other forums I visit. I can't see it changing any time soon to be honest though.

  • 01.02.2013 5:15 AM PDT
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Being a jerk is a good thing, creates entertainment.

  • 01.02.2013 5:18 AM PDT

This world wants to drag you down... And the weight, that guilt they want to hang around your neck, you don’t have to carry it one more step. You think they won’t let you rest, but it’s not up to them. It never was.

Posted by: Gaara444
Why? I hardly ever visit the place, but what's so bad about Sapphire?
Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
This thread has nothing to do with private groups, but Harlow is the admin of Sapphire, which tends to inspire rage in many.
I don't know honestly. The purpose of this thread has been derailed because of internet drama, and I agree that it's silly. I've considered making a thread about internet drama, but that might just create more of it.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 5:19 AM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 5:18 AM PDT
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While I can see your concerns, I've got to say... I much prefer the way that Bnet is run when compared with Halo Waypoint. You practically get banned for criticizing another person's opinion (such as giving a counter argument) under grounds of flaming or something.

I find Bnet to actually be quite tame, save a forum that is for a new game that has launched recently (as we always know how those go for the first few months)... and The Flood, well honestly, I kind of expect to find less intelligent things in there... but again, that forum is for general discussion so topics that come up are sometimes way out to lunch... as are those who post in them ;).

Anyway, like I said I can see your point to an extent, but I do not pretend to think that it is as big of a problem as you seem to claim. It is what it is, you can't get rid of idiots on the internet, and overall Bnet is one of the better gaming communities out there in my opinion.

Cheers

  • 01.02.2013 5:35 AM PDT
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Wannabe mods are out in force today i see.

  • 01.02.2013 5:38 AM PDT
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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

The Black Chapter!

ITT: people need to grow a thicker skin

  • 01.02.2013 5:41 AM PDT

New members will learn to become thick-skinned to them - just like everyone else.

  • 01.02.2013 5:41 AM PDT
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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

The Black Chapter!

Posted by: AcedannyK 7
New members will learn to become thick-skinned to them - just like everyone else.
What about old members who still get mad at everything which isn't unreservedly positive?

  • 01.02.2013 5:43 AM PDT
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Subtle references to Sapphire in every thread created by those in charge there are starting to piss me off. This isn't a forum to advertise in, regardless of how sneaky you think you are being.

  • 01.02.2013 5:47 AM PDT

This world wants to drag you down... And the weight, that guilt they want to hang around your neck, you don’t have to carry it one more step. You think they won’t let you rest, but it’s not up to them. It never was.

Posted by: Coxx153
Subtle references to Sapphire in every thread created by those in charge there are starting to piss me off.
Are there references on the OP to Sapphire? I'd genuinely like to know.

  • 01.02.2013 5:55 AM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.


Posted by: Telec
Posted by: AcedannyK 7
New members will learn to become thick-skinned to them - just like everyone else.
What about old members who still get mad at everything which isn't unreservedly positive?


They must be taught how to deal with it, or just live with it or alternatively (if they really can't handle it) leave the site. I've seen a few people do it.

  • 01.02.2013 5:56 AM PDT

Posted by: The Kangol Kid
It was then that I decided he really is like semen(everywhere) and I gave up on life.


zoobkillerninja <3

I'm a huge Tattletale. Throughout an entire thread, as well. Not just the OP.

I use the report button but I realize that a certain amount of people have to click it as well, in order for it to get put into the cue. Instead of relying on others to report it as well, I'll just message a Mod.

  • 01.02.2013 5:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: ToastyWaffles
Posted by: Coxx153
Subtle references to Sapphire in every thread created by those in charge there are starting to piss me off.
Are there references on the OP to Sapphire? I'd genuinely like to know.

Did I say the OP?

  • 01.02.2013 6:01 AM PDT
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Lady Astor: "If I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee."
Winston Churchill: "If I were your husband I'd drink it !"

I think that bans should be harsher on repeat offenders, people seem to get of too light and have 14 days they return and continue there behaviour, especially causing an influence on other members - but the subject matters of the threads doesn't always help.

  • 01.02.2013 6:06 AM PDT