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Posted by: Dookums460

OKAY YOU KNOW WHAT NOPE.

I HAVE TO POST AGAIN.

SO ACCORDING TO YOU, ALL TEENS SHOULDN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE A FEW ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED

OKAY SURE YEAH YOU'RE CONSIDERATE


yep. Same reason why teens cant buy alcohol or tobacco.

  • 01.02.2013 12:39 PM PDT

Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: Incandescence
In the way of part of the new Germany was Poland so Hitler and Stalin took it over so Germany could grow.

What.


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Dookums460

OKAY YOU KNOW WHAT NOPE.

I HAVE TO POST AGAIN.

SO ACCORDING TO YOU, ALL TEENS SHOULDN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE A FEW ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED

OKAY SURE YEAH YOU'RE CONSIDERATE


yep. Same reason why teens cant buy alcohol or tobacco.


THIS ISN'T ON THE SAME LEVEL.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY HARMFUL.

  • 01.02.2013 12:40 PM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV
We shouldnt have to censor ourselves for little kids when we're playing a game intended only for adults. We shouldnt have to watch our mouths. I should be able to talk like Im at a bar, not like Im at an elementary school.

Who says Call of Duty is intended only for adults? I'm sure the ESRB recommends that only adults play it.
Where I live, kids are banned from bars after 8. You can do whatever you want then because it is against the law for them to be there. Please show the law that says it's illegal for kids to play M games.


The LAW is that you cant sell an M rated game to anyone under 17.

  • 01.02.2013 12:40 PM PDT

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It doesn't matter if it is or is not actually harmful to kids. What matters is if parents perceive it to be harmful. That's all that really matters. If your mom and dad would flip out at a game's content, then they see it as harmful. If they don't care, then it isn't.

The point of this is that parents (meaning adults) are the ones who drive legislation, and they aren't always fully informed.

Given the shooting at Sandy Hook there is a current trend of scapegoating. People want to blame something or someone. Games and gaming has fallen into the sights. Such a move by Microsoft would be seen as an industry leader willing to police itself.

That's the only reason I give any credence to this rumor. Had it come out 3 months ago, before Sandy Hook, then I would have dismissed it out of hand. But I remember being a gamer when Mortal Kombat flipped out Tipper Gore, and the ESRB came into existence to appease her and every angry mother she represented.

  • 01.02.2013 12:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Dookums460

OKAY YOU KNOW WHAT NOPE.

I HAVE TO POST AGAIN.

SO ACCORDING TO YOU, ALL TEENS SHOULDN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE A FEW ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED

OKAY SURE YEAH YOU'RE CONSIDERATE


yep. Same reason why teens cant buy alcohol or tobacco.


THIS ISN'T ON THE SAME LEVEL.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY HARMFUL.


And so is being exposed to violence when you are young.

  • 01.02.2013 12:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
We shouldnt have to censor ourselves for little kids when we're playing a game intended only for adults. We shouldnt have to watch our mouths. I should be able to talk like Im at a bar, not like Im at an elementary school.

Who says Call of Duty is intended only for adults? I'm sure the ESRB recommends that only adults play it.
Where I live, kids are banned from bars after 8. You can do whatever you want then because it is against the law for them to be there. Please show the law that says it's illegal for kids to play M games.


The LAW is that you cant sell an M rated game to anyone under 17.

What's your point? I asked for the law where under 17's can't PLAY these games.

  • 01.02.2013 12:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
We shouldnt have to censor ourselves for little kids when we're playing a game intended only for adults. We shouldnt have to watch our mouths. I should be able to talk like Im at a bar, not like Im at an elementary school.

Who says Call of Duty is intended only for adults? I'm sure the ESRB recommends that only adults play it.
Where I live, kids are banned from bars after 8. You can do whatever you want then because it is against the law for them to be there. Please show the law that says it's illegal for kids to play M games.


The LAW is that you cant sell an M rated game to anyone under 17.
that's not true. Some stores have policies, but there is no law in the US.

  • 01.02.2013 12:42 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.

Dumb idea is dumb.

Either way, isn't the ESBR rating just a warning? People can choose to ignore warnings of they want to, it shouldn't stop them from playing a game.

  • 01.02.2013 12:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: Incandescence
In the way of part of the new Germany was Poland so Hitler and Stalin took it over so Germany could grow.

What.


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
It doesn't matter if it is or is not actually harmful to kids. What matters is if parents perceive it to be harmful. That's all that really matters. If your mom and dad would flip out at a game's content, then they see it as harmful. If they don't care, then it isn't.

The point of this is that parents (meaning adults) are the ones who drive legislation, and they aren't always fully informed.

Given the shooting at Sandy Hook there is a current trend of scapegoating. People want to blame something or someone. Games and gaming has fallen into the sights. Such a move by Microsoft would be seen as an industry leader willing to police itself.

That's the only reason I give any credence to this rumor. Had it come out 3 months ago, before Sandy Hook, then I would have dismissed it out of hand. But I remember being a gamer when Mortal Kombat flipped out Tipper Gore, and the ESRB came into existence to appease her and every angry mother she represented.

>making new console
>random shooting happens
>OKAY GUYS, WE NEED TO CUT OUR SALES WITH THIS FANTASTIC NEW IDEA. BUT HEY, AT LEAST THE MOMS AND MEDIA WILL LOVE US MORE RIGHT?

  • 01.02.2013 12:42 PM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
We shouldnt have to censor ourselves for little kids when we're playing a game intended only for adults. We shouldnt have to watch our mouths. I should be able to talk like Im at a bar, not like Im at an elementary school.

Who says Call of Duty is intended only for adults? I'm sure the ESRB recommends that only adults play it.
Where I live, kids are banned from bars after 8. You can do whatever you want then because it is against the law for them to be there. Please show the law that says it's illegal for kids to play M games.


The LAW is that you cant sell an M rated game to anyone under 17.

What's your point? I asked for the law where under 17's can't PLAY these games.


Dont feel like looking it up.

Why do you care so much though?

  • 01.02.2013 12:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: Incandescence
In the way of part of the new Germany was Poland so Hitler and Stalin took it over so Germany could grow.

What.


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Dookums460

OKAY YOU KNOW WHAT NOPE.

I HAVE TO POST AGAIN.

SO ACCORDING TO YOU, ALL TEENS SHOULDN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE A FEW ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED

OKAY SURE YEAH YOU'RE CONSIDERATE


yep. Same reason why teens cant buy alcohol or tobacco.


THIS ISN'T ON THE SAME LEVEL.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY HARMFUL.


And so is being exposed to violence when you are young.

>played CE when I was 6
>been playing violent video games ever since
>not violent in the slightest

whatever you say

  • 01.02.2013 12:43 PM PDT

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Wouldn't parents just swipe in their cards and then let their kids play?

  • 01.02.2013 12:43 PM PDT

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  • 01.02.2013 12:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
It doesn't matter if it is or is not actually harmful to kids. What matters is if parents perceive it to be harmful. That's all that really matters. If your mom and dad would flip out at a game's content, then they see it as harmful. If they don't care, then it isn't.

The point of this is that parents (meaning adults) are the ones who drive legislation, and they aren't always fully informed.

Given the shooting at Sandy Hook there is a current trend of scapegoating. People want to blame something or someone. Games and gaming has fallen into the sights. Such a move by Microsoft would be seen as an industry leader willing to police itself.

That's the only reason I give any credence to this rumor. Had it come out 3 months ago, before Sandy Hook, then I would have dismissed it out of hand. But I remember being a gamer when Mortal Kombat flipped out Tipper Gore, and the ESRB came into existence to appease her and every angry mother she represented.

>making new console
>random shooting happens
>OKAY GUYS, WE NEED TO CUT OUR SALES WITH THIS FANTASTIC NEW IDEA. BUT HEY, AT LEAST THE MOMS AND MEDIA WILL LOVE US MORE RIGHT?


Sadly, the world does indeed work just that way. And please stop using >. This isn't 4Chan.

And, if the industry doesn't do something, it is pretty likely that the legislature will do something. If we end up choosing between this rumored card reader or losing shooters altogether... Well, I can vote and it sucks to be the underaged kids who can't.

The games were made with MY demographic in mind, not yours. I vote ion my own self interests.

  • 01.02.2013 12:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
We shouldnt have to censor ourselves for little kids when we're playing a game intended only for adults. We shouldnt have to watch our mouths. I should be able to talk like Im at a bar, not like Im at an elementary school.

Who says Call of Duty is intended only for adults? I'm sure the ESRB recommends that only adults play it.
Where I live, kids are banned from bars after 8. You can do whatever you want then because it is against the law for them to be there. Please show the law that says it's illegal for kids to play M games.


The LAW is that you cant sell an M rated game to anyone under 17.

What's your point? I asked for the law where under 17's can't PLAY these games.


Dont feel like looking it up.

Why do you care so much though?


There are no laws that state a 12 year old can't buy an M rated game. It is just policy that many retailers follow.

  • 01.02.2013 12:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Dont feel like looking it up.

Why do you care so much though?

I agree with you here, it would be a bit of a pain to look up, seeing as you're looking for something that doesn't exist.

As for why I care? I'm practising my language of argument and stopping the propagation of false information at the same time. Seems like a win-win to me.

  • 01.02.2013 12:46 PM PDT


Posted by: TheHawk62
Wouldn't parents just swipe in their cards and then let their kids play?


They would do that. But they would be alot more aware of what they let their child play

  • 01.02.2013 12:47 PM PDT

If only there was someone as egotistical and funny as my clone.


oh wait.

how about NO. This will only make companies lose money and hurt the economy then it already is.

  • 01.02.2013 12:47 PM PDT


Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Dont feel like looking it up.

Why do you care so much though?

I agree with you here, it would be a bit of a pain to look up, seeing as you're looking for something that doesn't exist.

As for why I care? I'm practising my language of argument and stopping the propagation of false information at the same time. Seems like a win-win to me.


LOL

  • 01.02.2013 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: the dark freckle
how about NO. This will only make companies lose money and hurt the economy then it already is.
Well, if all the pissed off parents blaming video games for Sandy Hook force Congress to ban shooter games... What then?

Still "How about NO?"

  • 01.02.2013 12:48 PM PDT

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This is why I won't care:

Posted by: Kai Hiwatari
Thank God I'll be 18 by then if it's true


But if it IS true (it sounds really doubtful), MS will drive away a major audience to other consoles that don't do this (Playstation/Wii) or PC gaming.

Unless all the next-gen consoles did this, it would not stop the underage gamers whom we all dearly hate. (though in their defence, some are mature and play nice)

  • 01.02.2013 12:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Dont feel like looking it up.

Why do you care so much though?

I agree with you here, it would be a bit of a pain to look up, seeing as you're looking for something that doesn't exist.

As for why I care? I'm practising my language of argument and stopping the propagation of false information at the same time. Seems like a win-win to me.


LOL

Is that an admission that you're completely, 100% wrong?

  • 01.02.2013 12:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: SilverBulitt82
I like the idea of it, but I really don't see it happening.

  • 01.02.2013 12:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Dookums460

OKAY YOU KNOW WHAT NOPE.

I HAVE TO POST AGAIN.

SO ACCORDING TO YOU, ALL TEENS SHOULDN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE A FEW ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED

OKAY SURE YEAH YOU'RE CONSIDERATE


yep. Same reason why teens cant buy alcohol or tobacco.


THIS ISN'T ON THE SAME LEVEL.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY HARMFUL.


And so is being exposed to violence when you are young.


>not violent in the slightest

whatever you say

This is why you are screaming at us?

  • 01.02.2013 12:49 PM PDT


Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: o0 KEV1N 0o

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Dont feel like looking it up.

Why do you care so much though?

I agree with you here, it would be a bit of a pain to look up, seeing as you're looking for something that doesn't exist.

As for why I care? I'm practising my language of argument and stopping the propagation of false information at the same time. Seems like a win-win to me.


LOL

Is that an admission that you're completely, 100% wrong?


If it helps you sleep at night.

However, my point still stands. If this were to happen, it would improve M rated online games.

  • 01.02.2013 12:50 PM PDT