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Subject: I hope the XBox 720 rumor is true.

Posted by: Kneecap
I keep on getting in conversations with a person who calls me John.

Seriously if the new Xbox is called the 720, I'll flip some -blam!-. That's a terrible name.

  • 01.02.2013 1:37 PM PDT

@Vinyl_Hb


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: YodasCurd
Microsoft wouldn't do this because of how low sales would be. Think about it, the amount of minors playing video games is much higher than adults. Keeping them from playing the games means they wouldn't even buy the games. If anything, it comes down to the parenting. Yesterday I was in a game and a 10 year old was using the foulest language I've heard on XBL.

Charlie, i had respect for you until this thread. Shame on you.
I remember you used to read threads before responding. It seems like I've said this a hundred times, I've linked a study, done in 2011, that shows the majority of gamers are 37.

They aren't minors. Minors are the minority.


Implying it is still 2011. Link the study

Also stating 1 single age as the highest population by age, not majority. Majority of gamers are underage.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 1:39 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 1:37 PM PDT

Lets Boogie

Though im not a kid, i can sympathize for those below 18 who play M rated games.

I am sure most of us here on the flood, started to play our first halo game, before the age of 18.

So how would you like it, when you are a kid, and want to play halo 1 back in the days, but some older people say you can't because its M rated, even though you can easily deal with the violence in halo, and are mature enough to play the game.

  • 01.02.2013 1:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Br0wnieBandit
prevents the use of creative influences for minors as they grow into adults.


killing a bunch of virtual people is a creative influence?

  • 01.02.2013 1:37 PM PDT

Studies show that men think about sex every 7 seconds. I do my best to eat hotdogs in under 6, just so things don't get weird.

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I've been around for a long, long year
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Posted by: YodasCurd

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: YodasCurd
Microsoft wouldn't do this because of how low sales would be. Think about it, the amount of minors playing video games is much higher than adults. Keeping them from playing the games means they wouldn't even buy the games. If anything, it comes down to the parenting. Yesterday I was in a game and a 10 year old was using the foulest language I've heard on XBL.

Charlie, i had respect for you until this thread. Shame on you.
I remember you used to read threads before responding. It seems like I've said this a hundred times, I've linked a study, done in 2011, that shows the majority of gamers are 37.

They aren't minors. Minors are the minority.


Implying it is still 2011. Link the study
Go back to page 2 or 3, or a couple of pages back. If you're too lazy to click a link, I'm not going to do your work for you.

  • 01.02.2013 1:39 PM PDT

Studies show that men think about sex every 7 seconds. I do my best to eat hotdogs in under 6, just so things don't get weird.

Please allow me to introduce Myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith


Posted by: haloplayer2kill
Though im not a kid, i can sympathize for those below 18 who play M rated games.

I am sure most of us here on the flood, started to play our first halo game, before the age of 18.

So how would you like it, when you are a kid, and want to play halo 1 back in the days, but some older people say you can't because its M rated, even though you can easily deal with the violence in halo, and are mature enough to play the game.


I said the same thing about cigarettes and alcohol.

  • 01.02.2013 1:39 PM PDT

@Vinyl_Hb


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: YodasCurd

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: YodasCurd
Microsoft wouldn't do this because of how low sales would be. Think about it, the amount of minors playing video games is much higher than adults. Keeping them from playing the games means they wouldn't even buy the games. If anything, it comes down to the parenting. Yesterday I was in a game and a 10 year old was using the foulest language I've heard on XBL.

Charlie, i had respect for you until this thread. Shame on you.
I remember you used to read threads before responding. It seems like I've said this a hundred times, I've linked a study, done in 2011, that shows the majority of gamers are 37.

They aren't minors. Minors are the minority.


Implying it is still 2011. Link the study
Go back to page 2 or 3, or a couple of pages back. If you're too lazy to click a link, I'm not going to do your work for you.


Sorry if I only read the first page and dont enjoy sifting through 15 pages of posts.

If anything youre just butt hurt about the amount of minors on xbox running their mouths and youre incapable of using the mute button.

And speaking of work, as a 16 year old who makes money off of playing M rated games such as call of duty I find this amusing. It's irrelevant to me because I will be 17 when the console comes out (Assuming ESRB sticks to the 17 years or older policy)

Also ESRB ratings are just that, RATINGS. You can not judge maturity level based on age, Ive met 37 year olds who are more immature than 12 year olds.

There is no law against minors playing these games, just laws against businesses selling the games to them

If xbox really wanted to do this, they would make it so the age that is on the xbox account must be 17 to play the game.

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  • 01.02.2013 1:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Br0wnieBandit
prevents the use of creative influences for minors as they grow into adults.


killing a bunch of virtual people is a creative influence?


Not all M rated games have to deal with mindlessly killing virtual people. Sure, most get the M rating from violence, but you tend to get more immersive storytelling in M rated games. Take Fallout 3 or Mass Effect for example. Those games may be violent, but they also offer a lot of things that spark one's imagination.

I know growing up I got a lot of my own influences based on video games I played. I know I wouldn't be the same person I am today if I had been restricted from playing M games.

  • 01.02.2013 1:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Br0wnieBandit

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Br0wnieBandit
prevents the use of creative influences for minors as they grow into adults.


killing a bunch of virtual people is a creative influence?


Not all M rated games have to deal with mindlessly killing virtual people. Sure, most get the M rating from violence, but you tend to get more immersive storytelling in M rated games. Take Fallout 3 or Mass Effect for example. Those games may be violent, but they also offer a lot of things that spark one's imagination.

I know growing up I got a lot of my own influences based on video games I played. I know I wouldn't be the same person I am today if I had been restricted from playing M games.


What would be different?

  • 01.02.2013 1:42 PM PDT

Lets Boogie


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: haloplayer2kill
Though im not a kid, i can sympathize for those below 18 who play M rated games.

I am sure most of us here on the flood, started to play our first halo game, before the age of 18.

So how would you like it, when you are a kid, and want to play halo 1 back in the days, but some older people say you can't because its M rated, even though you can easily deal with the violence in halo, and are mature enough to play the game.


I said the same thing about cigarettes and alcohol.


Yes because playing M rated games all the time is going to lead me with dull senses, which can also cause me to unintentionally hurt others or simply cause me to do stupid things i normally wouldn't do.

Also by playing all those M rated games, i am increasing my chance to get some form of disease/cancer.

Makes perfect sense.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 1:44 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 1:43 PM PDT

What doesn't kill you, only makes you stranger

You'll have little kids taking their parents ID. It is a good concept, but not really a practical one.

  • 01.02.2013 1:44 PM PDT


Posted by: haloplayer2kill


Yes because playing M rated games all the time is going to lead me with dull senses, which can also cause me to unintentionally hurt others or simply cause me to do stupid things i normally wouldn't do.


Makes perfect sense.


Yep they can

  • 01.02.2013 1:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: haloplayer2kill
Though im not a kid, i can sympathize for those below 18 who play M rated games.

I am sure most of us here on the flood, started to play our first halo game, before the age of 18.

So how would you like it, when you are a kid, and want to play halo 1 back in the days, but some older people say you can't because its M rated, even though you can easily deal with the violence in halo, and are mature enough to play the game.


I said the same thing about cigarettes and alcohol.


Yes because playing M rated games all the time is going to lead me with dull senses, which can also cause me to unintentionally hurt others or simply cause me to do stupid things i normally wouldn't do.

Also by playing all those M rated games, i am increasing my chance to get some form of disease/cancer.

Makes perfect sense.


I'm mixed on this I hate little kids but at the same times its up to the parents and no one else to decide.

  • 01.02.2013 1:46 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.

Hold up a sec.

The ESRB ratings on the games are just a guideline for who should play it. It only dictates who can BUY it. M-rated games require an ID and must be 17+ to purchase it. That doesn't mean a 15 year-old can't play it. It's up to the parents whether or not their kid is ready to play it.

"Not every human problem deserves a law"

  • 01.02.2013 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Br0wnieBandit

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Br0wnieBandit
prevents the use of creative influences for minors as they grow into adults.


killing a bunch of virtual people is a creative influence?


Not all M rated games have to deal with mindlessly killing virtual people. Sure, most get the M rating from violence, but you tend to get more immersive storytelling in M rated games. Take Fallout 3 or Mass Effect for example. Those games may be violent, but they also offer a lot of things that spark one's imagination.

I know growing up I got a lot of my own influences based on video games I played. I know I wouldn't be the same person I am today if I had been restricted from playing M games.


What would be different?


Well, I guess in my case I like to work with art and writing. As a child, games influenced my own creativity and helped me create my own unique ideas. Some mature games I would say made me realize the potential of storytelling when you break free of censorship and dive into more grittier subjects.

I guess I'd say that M rated games, to some length, helped me become a more mature person growing up while also exposing me to ideas in which I could critically think.

Banning them from underage users is like banning books imo.

  • 01.02.2013 1:48 PM PDT
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Deva Path


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Compare the games back then to the games now.

The games now are a million times more violent.


Back then the big thing was fighting games in which you might want to check mortal combat.

Timesplitters was goofy but some of the levels were mindF***ing and the zombies...

My brother made me play The suffering which was effed up

I love how charlie can try to make points but when i do it it's "making sense". However i am pretty sure everybody can say games back then were worse.

The only games i can honestly say that would be bad regardless are

Gears of war (which a parent is an idiot for buying a kid this)

Those silent hill games and anything of the like.


Other than that there isn't anything that is going to mess with a kids head.


Halo isn't bad,Call of duty isn't bad,lost planet, dark souls,etc


I don't see why were are pushing for video games to be toned down when the market for nerf guns in the like is growing. You don't need an adult when you buy a 60 dollar nerf gun and the kid goes around shooting his buddies.


But that is fine and not concerning yet them playing a video game is? The nerf guns and such didn't bother me until they start making them more and more like an actual gun. Then you have that remote control attack crap. It's like they are getting kids use to this stuff when they are young so they become some type of proto-solider.


But yeah, them sitting in the house shooting people that aren't real is bad.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 1:50 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 1:50 PM PDT

The kids would just use their parents IDs.

  • 01.02.2013 1:50 PM PDT

@Vinyl_Hb


Posted by: Br0wnieBandit

Fancy seeing you here...

[Edited on 01.02.2013 1:54 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 1:50 PM PDT

Honestly, I'm all for this idea, be a whole lot less immaturity to deal with in online interactions. I'm not saying that all underage people are immature retards or that all adults are mature individuals, I just think that age does have an effect on how mature a majority of people act (not just online but in other social situations as well).

  • 01.02.2013 1:51 PM PDT

Lets Boogie


Posted by: Recon Zero Nine

Posted by: haloplayer2kill

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: haloplayer2kill
Though im not a kid, i can sympathize for those below 18 who play M rated games.

I am sure most of us here on the flood, started to play our first halo game, before the age of 18.

So how would you like it, when you are a kid, and want to play halo 1 back in the days, but some older people say you can't because its M rated, even though you can easily deal with the violence in halo, and are mature enough to play the game.


I said the same thing about cigarettes and alcohol.


Yes because playing M rated games all the time is going to lead me with dull senses, which can also cause me to unintentionally hurt others or simply cause me to do stupid things i normally wouldn't do.

Also by playing all those M rated games, i am increasing my chance to get some form of disease/cancer.

Makes perfect sense.


I'm mixed on this I hate little kids but at the same times its up to the parents and no one else to decide.


But not all people below 18 who play M rated games, are the stereotypical whiny kids the flood always bashes.

I played halo 2 online before i became a man, and i didn't whine to people and talk trash, and basically act like a troll. And if i can do that, other kids can do it to. And im sure there are plenty of kids who play M rated online games, and are mature while doing so.

Why should they be punished for the problems of others?

  • 01.02.2013 1:51 PM PDT

Lets Boogie


Posted by: MadMax888
Hold up a sec.

The ESRB ratings on the games are just a guideline for who should play it. It only dictates who can BUY it. M-rated games require an ID and must be 17+ to purchase it. That doesn't mean a 15 year-old can't play it. It's up to the parents whether or not their kid is ready to play it.

"Not every human problem deserves a law"


This man speaks the truth, listen to him my halo brothers.

  • 01.02.2013 1:52 PM PDT
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It is very dark, and you are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

I'll stick to PC.

Thanks.

  • 01.02.2013 1:54 PM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553


Posted by: Zanir
More people than ever will then lie about their age.

It's inevitable, Charlie.

  • 01.02.2013 1:56 PM PDT

Do you even lift?

Kids can just ask their parents to give their ID then..

  • 01.02.2013 1:59 PM PDT

@Vinyl_Hb

Thats right charlie, abandon thread.

  • 01.02.2013 2:01 PM PDT