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Subject: take out plamsa pistal in halo 3

cmon, the plasma pistol is famous. it's impossible to be removed and have people like it that way.

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  • 07.07.2006 7:38 AM PDT
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I think it should remain for Halo 3.
But Bungie should balance it better. make it home only when the crosshair turns red. Or have it curve less.
Or possibly have it drain the percentage that the pistol was charged. (You can drain the shields when the plasma pistol is only half way through being charged)

I have no doubts Bungie will tweak this to alter gameplay in a way that they feel would be more appropriate, and less whore-ish.

  • 07.07.2006 7:59 AM PDT

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They should keep the plasma pistol bu fix it so the charge shot cant home on people any more it would take skill to use it then.

  • 07.07.2006 8:09 AM PDT
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If it's weapon balance that you seek, why not ask for every weapon to be removed except for one. That way every player will have the same weapon no matter what. That way you can't whine about how the game is unfair, but instead, you might begin to realize that it may be you that is the problem.

The PP should stay. And stay the same. People need to stop complaining about weapon balance. The weapons are that way for a reason. If you want to remove the PP, then you might as well remove the rockets, Sniper, Sword, and Shotgun. Each weapon has it's advantages and disavantages. Learn to exploit both. The weapons are not the problem, YOU are the problem. Think before you do something. Learn to be crafty.

And to the original poster. I thought is was funny how you first point out that the BR and PP Combo is the "Noob Combo" and imply that only "Noobs" use it because of how easy it is to kill an oponent. Yet, YOU can't wield it. So what does that make you? I will say this again, "The weapons are not the problem, YOU are the problem. Think before you do something."

And one more thing. It's hoNe not home. Example, The rocket honed in on the Warthog. Sorry, that was just driving me crazy.

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  • 07.07.2006 8:44 AM PDT

Posted by: HELLB0RN
The PP should stay. And stay the same. People need to stop complaining about weapon balance. The weapons are that way for a reason.

Wrong - new game, new rules. It'll be changed I'm afraid so don't get attached to it. They made large changes going from 1 to 2 and we should expect the same from 2 to 3. You'll probably still be able to 'combo' with some weapon as long as the PP is still there, it just might take a bit of skill that's all.

The weapons were that way for the reason that bungie wanted a 'rock scissors paper' scenario - basically a game about weapon control. But that's kind of old now so I believe we will return to a situation like Halo where every weapon is useful and no one weapon can completely overpower another. THAT is weapon balance. We might even (gasp!) get good starting weapons.

  • 07.07.2006 8:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ric_Adbur
No one should ever be afraid of looking stupid, so long as they are making a rational effort to expand their understanding.

Maybe Bungie could take out all weapons, and re-introduce M6D. Then it would be so skilled and players would either be 1337 or noobs.[/sarcasm]

OR... maybe since all the weapons in Halo 2 work a little differently from their CE versions, maybe you can trust that they will get an overhaul again...

Posted by: crazyitalian123
i think they need to take out the plasma pistol cuz to many ppl use it with the battle rifle. i mean ppl call it the noob combo for a reason it cuz its for noobs. i dont even know how to use it well cuz i never if very little use it and if i do i use the plasma pistal with the smg which isnt even close to the combo.

  • 07.07.2006 8:50 AM PDT

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I just hope they fix the plasma pistol so the charge shot takes longer to recharge and the charge shot shouldnt be able to home on a player it would take more skill to use the pistol than charge fire switch weapon shoot you should have to actually aim the gun and then lead the shoot not have to rely on the auto aim to get your kill and if they dont do this they could at least reduce the damage of the plasma pistol so it takes off only half your shields not the hole thing thats stupid.

  • 07.07.2006 9:12 AM PDT
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Two problems I have with the plasma pistol and the battlerifle. One Id be ok if you could use the plasma pistol but have to wait until the overheat is done to switch to your other weapon, and two taking on a sniper as soon as he lands one shot when your trying to take him out of scope he can still switch to his other weapon to fast and only need to get a headshot with a battlerifle and your done. If the time from switching between strong weapons was upped itd take more planning to use them easily not just fire plasma pistol and before it hits you can fire the battlerifle and thats it, to easy and to cheap because the levels as they stand do not always have lots of cover.

  • 07.07.2006 1:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: crazyitalian123
i think they need to take out the plasma pistol cuz to many ppl use it with the battle rifle. i mean ppl call it the noob combo for a reason it cuz its for noobs. i dont even know how to use it well cuz i never if very little use it and if i do i use the plasma pistal with the smg which isnt even close to the combo.


Lesson Number 1. Most people judge a book by their cover. You spelt the title WRONG! People will come in here just urging to flame you.

  • 07.07.2006 1:52 PM PDT
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Do you have speech impairment problem? And just because you don't know how to work the game to your advantage doesn't mean it shouldn't be in there.

  • 07.07.2006 2:02 PM PDT

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I don't think they should take it out just decrease the AA by a pretty good amount.

  • 07.07.2006 2:06 PM PDT
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Take it out... no. Make it track less... yes.

Remember Halo 1? Unless someone was right on top of you the charged shot was easy to avoid. Still if it didnt track like it does now I cant imagine ever being able to beat it on legendary... The elites would be so friggin hard to kill.

  • 07.07.2006 2:07 PM PDT

Waaahhhhhhhh! The plasma pistol is too powerful. Waaahhhhhhhhh! Take it out of the game. Waaaahhhhhhhhh! The only weapon in the game should be an SMG, and it should only work as a melee attack. Waaaaahhhhh, Waaaaahhhh, Waaahhhhhhhhh!

Get over it. The plasma pistol is fine as it is. Another aspect of the PP, BR combo is the fact that you actually have to GET both of the weapons to use it. In a crowded room it's not the easiest thing to do, and even if you do get it, you can really only focus on one person at a time with it. Once you engage someone with it, anyone else in the vicinity is going to take you down, and then you don't have it anymore. It's not like the sword where you can run around with the sword for the whole round once you pick it up.

  • 07.07.2006 2:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: HELLB0RN

And one more thing. It's hoNe not home. Example, The rocket honed in on the Warthog. Sorry, that was just driving me crazy.


So your saying that you plant honing devices on things inorder to track them? You sir are the pot calling the kettle black.

  • 07.07.2006 2:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: timbabueno
Posted by: HELLB0RN

And one more thing. It's hoNe not home. Example, The rocket honed in on the Warthog. Sorry, that was just driving me crazy.


So your saying that you plant honing devices on things inorder to track them? You sir are the pot calling the kettle black.


I don't even know how to respond to this. I am saying that weapon tracking or tracking devices use hoNing. Not hoMing. Homing is with respect to ones residence, house, or hoMe. Homing has nothing to do with tracking. Look it up genious.

The would hoNe is in regards to tracking something. So to your question, Yes I am saying that you plant a hoNing device on an object in order to track it. So I'm not calling any pot black. Learn how to spell a word and the meaning behind the spelling before you use it. Otherwise you might come out looking like a total moron like timbabueno.

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  • 07.07.2006 2:21 PM PDT
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Just about every single weapon has been ceaselessly griped about and that it should be removed.

Life is unfair, deal with it. All's fair in combat, and everyone dies. Complaining means you're a sore loser.

Leave the plasma pistol as is. That, or bring back the original plasma pistol from Halo. I liked the first one better, because it actually has a use other than the overcharge. And you can't make the plasma pistol deplete only half your shield, when your shield was stronger in Halo-and a overcharge can take out all three shield layers of an overshield. Covenant downgrading? Taking longer to charge, slower gun switch animation, or can't switch weapons while overheat's dispersing would wreck everything for Campaign.

  • 07.07.2006 2:26 PM PDT
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there is actually two other ways to block a plasma bolt beside drop your duel weapon melee it with a sword or if u have really good acuraccy (i dont think i spelled that right) u can throw a plasma granade at it and if u hit it t will go flying back...
http://media.putfile.com/Stppea
There is another video of how to do all three but i cant find it

  • 07.07.2006 2:38 PM PDT
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Its to late for tht, Grunts Jackels and buggers already use them in Campaign mode so it wood b hard to explain how they all of a sudden changed weapons. but noob comos r funny and they piss me of online, so i wood stick with it.

  • 07.07.2006 2:46 PM PDT

Posted by: IBROKEDEDMYTACO
I hate the BR and Plasma pistol combo as much as the next guy but I do not feel they should take it out. I feel they should make the plasma pistol's damage much less, so it can only take out about half someone's sheilds or so.




All you really need to do is make it so that you can't switch weapons when one is over heating (such as after a plasma ball shot). Then you've got a 2 or 3 second delay before you can switch for the kill thus making the Plasma Pistol only effective when used with a team mate.

Even then, if they kept it the same it really wouldn't bother me. It's not nearly as annoying once you figure out how to use it back as well as how to mitigate it.

The plasma pistol has some obvious draw backs right out of the box. If you miss with it, which happens often, you are pretty much dead meet. Even then I've seen guys with the BR that can get all 4 shots into your head before your ball hits and you switch for the kill.

It's really not that bad, that's my only point. It's great for tearing up noobies though.

  • 07.07.2006 2:51 PM PDT
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You guys -blam!- about a tactic that works. There are ways to dodge it. And its only easy to get killed by it if your out in the open. Stop complaining by something you can't do!!

  • 07.07.2006 3:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: nrdsgtbck101
wow, banzorz! I love that combo. It's not cheap, it's called strategy. Hmmm use a weapon that strips your enemies shields then pop them in the head? Sounds like a good idea to me.You all just whine cause you suck and can't dodge it or kill the guy before he gets you with it.
You can't dodge it. If you call that strategy, then BXR might as well not be considered cheating.

  • 07.07.2006 3:09 PM PDT
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why do ppl complain all the time and never help....

  • 07.07.2006 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: RhythmKiller
No, just make it how it was in the first game.


That is what should happen. In the first game, the bolt was not as good at seeking people. Also, I do believe you could not put the gun away until it was done over-heating. If they left that, it would drastically change the game for the better.

It was shown in a video that it took 1.3 seconds to kill someone with the Halo 1 pistol, three times to the head, whereas it took just over .75 seconds to kill someone with the PP + BR combo. Remember, that is if all three headshots landed with the pistol.

And yes, one weapon combo that effectively eliminates 90% of the other map weapons is not a balanced weapon configuration for a MP game. Some modification is expected with the PP and Halo 3.

  • 07.07.2006 3:50 PM PDT

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I could see the plasma pistol from Halo 1 in Halo 3 more than the Halo 2 plasma pistol because it takes skill to kill some one in Halo 1 with the plasma pistol than in Halo 2 when all you do is charge look fire and pull out your secondary weapon and fire thats it .

  • 07.07.2006 4:30 PM PDT
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Omg, I didn't read the rest of this so dont say 'someone said that already'..You cant take out the Plasma Pistol, and taking it out because of the 'noob combo' is a stupid reason. Its a tactic, yes it gets annoying but deal with it. Have you ever heard of side-stepping, jumping etc. throwing a gernade..to avoid it? Have you ever tryed to shoot the guy? Just kill him and stop complaining. If you cant do that, don't play.

  • 07.07.2006 4:58 PM PDT

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