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Subject: Do you think the colonization and terraforming of Mars is possible...

Dumb people are just blissfully unaware of how very dumb they are.

if so is it worth it?

Personally I think it might be possible in a few decades,but I don't know if its worth it. I mean why spend all that time and money when we could find planets that are already fit for us to live on and have a chance of expanding and finding new life?

  • 01.02.2013 2:09 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

It would end up being to Earth what Australia was to the British Empire.

  • 01.02.2013 2:10 PM PDT

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Screw Mars, let's concentrate on Europa.

  • 01.02.2013 2:11 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: Sgt monkey41
if so is it worth it?

Personally I think it might be possible in a few decades,but I don't know if its worth it. I mean why spend all that time and money when we could find planets that are already fit for us to live on and have a chance of expanding and finding new life?

Distance-wise the difference between Mars and a yet-as-not-found "Earth-like planet around another star" is the difference between you being able to walk to the corner store and you trying to stroll to the Moon.

  • 01.02.2013 2:11 PM PDT

Because, Mars is close. The others are very far away. I would cost centuries of testing to go that far to other solar systems.

  • 01.02.2013 2:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Sgt monkey41
if so is it worth it?

Personally I think it might be possible in a few decades,but I don't know if its worth it. I mean why spend all that time and money when we could find planets that are already fit for us to live on and have a chance of expanding and finding new life?

Distance-wise the difference between Mars and a yet-as-not-found "Earth-like planet around another star" is the difference between you being able to walk to the corner store and you trying to stroll to the Moon.

This. we might find a habitable plannet, but that doesn't mean we can get to it.

  • 01.02.2013 2:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Sgt monkey41
if so is it worth it?

Personally I think it might be possible in a few decades,but I don't know if its worth it. I mean why spend all that time and money when we could find planets that are already fit for us to live on and have a chance of expanding and finding new life?

Distance-wise the difference between Mars and a yet-as-not-found "Earth-like planet around another star" is the difference between you being able to walk to the corner store and you trying to stroll to the Moon.

This is true.

I don't think we will start terraforming for a while, and even then the terraforming process would cost trillions of dollars and take hundreds of years.

But it is possible.

  • 01.02.2013 2:14 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

An interesting question is;

If we do find evidence of not just fossilized, but actual life (even microbial) on Mars... should/would we go ahead with plans to terraform, visit or otherwise colonize it?

Would we consider "leaving it alone to find its own way" if we discover it? Or, do we colonize and quite likely wipe out the flora/fauna of another world?

  • 01.02.2013 2:16 PM PDT

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March 3, 2553


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Sgt monkey41
if so is it worth it?

Personally I think it might be possible in a few decades,but I don't know if its worth it. I mean why spend all that time and money when we could find planets that are already fit for us to live on and have a chance of expanding and finding new life?

Distance-wise the difference between Mars and a yet-as-not-found "Earth-like planet around another star" is the difference between you being able to walk to the corner store and you trying to stroll to the Moon.

  • 01.02.2013 2:17 PM PDT

Any planet outside of our solar system would take an insurmountable time to get to unless we get some extremely efficient form of space travel. Mars is the best thing we have for right now.

  • 01.02.2013 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
An interesting question is;

If we do find evidence of not just fossilized, but actual life (even microbial) on Mars... should/would we go ahead with plans to terraform, visit or otherwise colonize it?

Would we consider "leaving it alone to find its own way" if we discover it? Or, do we colonize and quite likely wipe out the flora/fauna of another world?

I think by the time mars is terra formed, science will be so advanced as to have no risk of wiping out said life, I think we would have fail safes for this type of thing.

  • 01.02.2013 2:19 PM PDT

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Why the hell is everybody ITT acting like it's a choice between Mars or outside the solar system? There are other in-system celestial bodies far more likely to support life.

  • 01.02.2013 2:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: annoyinginge
Why the hell is everybody ITT acting like it's a choice between Mars or outside the solar system? There are other in-system celestial bodies far more likely to support life.


Mars is the closest habitual space body closest to the sun. Closer to the sun is better as plant life can grow.

  • 01.02.2013 2:22 PM PDT

Of course it is... Haven't you seen Total Recall!
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  • 01.02.2013 2:22 PM PDT

Dumb people are just blissfully unaware of how very dumb they are.


Posted by: Recon Number 54
An interesting question is;

If we do find evidence of not just fossilized, but actual life (even microbial) on Mars... should/would we go ahead with plans to terraform, visit or otherwise colonize it?

Would we consider "leaving it alone to find its own way" if we discover it? Or, do we colonize and quite likely wipe out the flora/fauna of another world?


If the Gaia hypothesis is correct. The simple act of stepping on the planet could cause accidental terraforming.

  • 01.02.2013 2:22 PM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

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Posted by: Recon Number 54

I thought scientists found some sort of primitive microbial life on Mars? Or evidence of it?

And there was evidence of water on mars as well.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 2:24 PM PST]

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
An interesting question is;

If we do find evidence of not just fossilized, but actual life (even microbial) on Mars... should/would we go ahead with plans to terraform, visit or otherwise colonize it?

Would we consider "leaving it alone to find its own way" if we discover it? Or, do we colonize and quite likely wipe out the flora/fauna of another world?


honest opinion? If it could be done in my life time, colonize it and wipe out the microbial life. Survival of the fittest, My life is the only one relevant to me so if we need more room than what we have on Earth (which we will) then we need to colonize what we can

  • 01.02.2013 2:24 PM PDT

Posted by: IrIsHmAn04
no its legit, i used coordinates, set weapon timers the works.

No it's not. Mars doesn't have a proper orbit and distance from the sun to support life.

  • 01.02.2013 2:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt monkey41
I mean why spend all that time and money when we could find planets that are already fit for us to live on and have a chance of expanding and finding new life?


It's much closer and probably much cheaper than finding another planet beyond the solar system. Plus, there's no guarantee that we would find a habitable one, especially one that is perfectly suitible for humans.

I want to colonise the Moon, too. Imagine how pretty it would be, from both the Moon and Earth. :3

  • 01.02.2013 2:27 PM PDT


Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
No it's not. Mars doesn't have a proper orbit and distance from the sun to support life.


Pump it fulla CO2? Global warming!

Then just add plants, and then you get Oxygen.

  • 01.02.2013 2:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: annoyinginge
Why the hell is everybody ITT acting like it's a choice between Mars or outside the solar system? There are other in-system celestial bodies far more likely to support life.

Mars is the closest habitual space body closest to the sun. Closer to the sun is better as plant life can grow.

Europa is a far, far more likely source of life than Mars. Fact. It has an icy outer coating, but tidal forces + geothermal activity means there's enough heat inside for there to be liquid water. In fact, there's an underground planet-wide ocean, and tonnes of organic molecules. Europa could have creatures that would make the dinosaurs look tame. With Mars, at best, there might be some underground single-celled extremophiles. It's a no-brainer.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 2:31 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2013 2:29 PM PDT

Quote from Confucius

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
No it's not. Mars doesn't have a proper orbit and distance from the sun to support life.


It does have sufficient distance from the sun to be able to support life. But how ?

Green house effect. The atmosphere of Mars must be thick enough to trap the suns rays and keep the rays there, approximately 2x thicker than Earth's atmosphere if I remember correctly.

  • 01.02.2013 2:29 PM PDT

Have nice day.

I think it is a bad idea considering there is a portal to hell there.

  • 01.02.2013 2:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54

but actual life (even microbial) on Mars... should/would we go ahead with plans to terraform, visit or otherwise colonize it?


We'd take samples and wish it good luck, then colonize the planet. If its still a microbe after four or so billion years it will always be a microbe.

In the end if we need to colonize mars no ones going to care about the native species of streptococcus .

  • 01.02.2013 2:30 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


Posted by: Sgt monkey41

Posted by: Recon Number 54
An interesting question is;

If we do find evidence of not just fossilized, but actual life (even microbial) on Mars... should/would we go ahead with plans to terraform, visit or otherwise colonize it?

Would we consider "leaving it alone to find its own way" if we discover it? Or, do we colonize and quite likely wipe out the flora/fauna of another world?


If the Gaia hypothesis is correct. The simple act of stepping on the planet could cause accidental terraforming.

Correct, panspermia could have occurred if any of our probes (from Viking on) were not properly sterilized.

But I wonder what would we do "if" current missions were to find something that is confirmed to be non-terran in origin or relation (something that is unlike any/all life on Earth that is VERY similar in all of its DNA structure).

Would we take a high minded and ethical approach that "we have no right to interfere in the destiny of such life, even if it stands little to no chance of evolving into a multi-cellular state?" Or do we even waste time "worrying about ET-bugs where there's land and resources at stake"?

I agree that if it is found, and we continue to visit, we're likely to introduce our own bugs and impact that planet in unforseeable ways. But perhaps that is how things get started? I don't know.

But if we are "so higher than bacteria" on another world that we feel empowered to "take it, since there is no one with a voice we can hear/understand to protest", what would we think of our world being visited by beings who were capable (and accurate) in seeing themselves as "far above us" as we consider ourselves "above bacteria"?

Would such beings have any pause over disregarding us and our "right to exist and evolve"? Would they even care to consider asking us what we think? Could they even contemplate or understand that we'd like to think that we're intelligent?

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