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Subject: Halo 4 Legendary Ending (SPOILERS!)

BE HUMAN

Fight for Earth. Fight for Humanity.

What did you think of this? Did you or did you not approve of them showing some of Chief's face?

For a diehard fan, I was actually fairly wowed, I loved it :D

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  • 01.02.2013 5:58 PM PDT

It fit what they were doing with the Chief--making him a human being rather than a machine in a metal shell. Getting to see his face was the first true example of his development as a person.

Plus it was just great to finally see it, plain and simple.

  • 01.02.2013 6:00 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

A very bold move which beautifully reflected the thematic progression of Halo 4 stripping away the layers of John as a Spartan and bringing out the human element of his character. From the brief look we see of his face, he looks broken and tired after all he's been through. You can see it in his stance and how he walks, it's the way one does so in helpless defeat.

Cortana's departure has clearly had a devastating effect on John, which is quite a contrast to the end of Composer where it's Cortana who is in emotional turmoil when Ivanoff's crew is composed while John plays the soldier.

My personal favourite ending in the series so far.

  • 01.02.2013 6:04 PM PDT
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That was the worst Legendary ending. It was worse than Halo 2 or Reach's, and they didn't have in the first place.

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Posted by: lime013
That was the worst Legendary ending. It was worse than Halo 2 or Reach's, and they didn't have in the first place.


If you honestly though that ending was bad then you aren't a halo fan. Ending being the second chief walks on that lightbridge to when the movies all stop.

  • 01.02.2013 6:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: lime013
That was the worst Legendary ending. It was worse than Halo 2 or Reach's, and they didn't have in the first place.
You seem to be a bit booty-bothered.

I enjoyed the Halo 4 ending. I thought it perfectly underlined the story of chief's humanization.

  • 01.02.2013 6:36 PM PDT
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1) Hey, I freaking finished Midnight from rally point alpha. Where the hell is the special cutscene?!
2) *goes to YouTube* That's the Legendary ending? The hell?!
3) -blam!- Halo 4, -blam!- Halo 4!

Yeah I wasn't very receptive to the Legendary ending. Extremely underwhelming.

I didn't feel rewarded for finishing the campaign (not to mention how I later found out I had to do it online for Mark VI armor).

I felt rewarded in CE, I felt rewarded in Halo 3. I did not feel like I accomplished anything in Halo 4 (QTE did not help. It made it even worse). Just an add-on clip, a minor difference? If anything, there should have been more differences!

I.e. we actually see the Didact making the speech. Doesn't have to show his face or body but could show a silhouette or something.

Midnight in it's entirety was an atrocity to be honest.

[Edited on 01.02.2013 10:53 PM PST]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.

  • 01.03.2013 6:41 AM PDT

I dont want to see his face

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: adamj004
I dont want to see his face


I don't understand why since we already know what he looks like.

  • 01.03.2013 7:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: adamj004
I dont want to see his face

You're playing the wrong game then.

  • 01.03.2013 7:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

We all knew Chief was an old bald white guy so the ending wasn't too out of this world.

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Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.

[Edited on 01.03.2013 9:26 AM PST]

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.


Maybe in Halo 5 or 6 because he's not dead. Consider the Reclaimer Trilogy one huge story being dished out in segments at a time; wouldn't want to ruin the climactic battle between the protagonist and antagonist by having a premature climactic battle in the first game.

  • 01.03.2013 9:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.


Maybe in Halo 5 or 6 because he's not dead. Consider the Reclaimer Trilogy one huge story being dished out in segments at a time; wouldn't want to ruin the climactic battle between the protagonist and antagonist by having a premature climactic battle in the first game.
I'm aware of that point but why did it have to be specifically a QTE? A cutscene would have been sufficient.

A QTE is not consolation as much as it is illusion.

[Edited on 01.03.2013 9:36 AM PST]

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.



I don't see how it that means anything. The warthog segments bored me after a while, I think the only endings that don't bore me is halo 2 and halowars.

Source for it not detonating right? Every other forerunner gun has an alt function. The way we are using them in the games isn't even "correct" since the weapons change base on what is using them (cryptum). The Didact can't be composed not to mention the armor is incredibly strong so nothing was wrong with that.


Yeah, lets somehow kill one of the most important characters in a stupid way. that'll get the fans going.

  • 01.03.2013 10:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.


Good luck trying to kill a +4 meter beast with primitive weapons.

[Edited on 01.03.2013 10:29 AM PST]

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.


Good luck trying to kill a +4 meter beast with primitive weapons.
Two words. Promethean Knights.

At E3, they're shown as overwhelming.

Then in the Scanned trailer, they're shown as mooks, and in gameplay, also mooks. Laughably easy.

I am not afraid. Even if 343 did throw in the Didact with all his powers and force us to beat him to complete the level, I'd find a way to beat him.

[Edited on 01.03.2013 10:55 AM PST]

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.



I don't see how it that means anything. The warthog segments bored me after a while, I think the only endings that don't bore me is halo 2 and halowars.

Source for it not detonating right? Every other forerunner gun has an alt function. The way we are using them in the games isn't even "correct" since the weapons change base on what is using them (cryptum). The Didact can't be composed not to mention the armor is incredibly strong so nothing was wrong with that.


Yeah, lets somehow kill one of the most important characters in a stupid way. that'll get the fans going.
I didn't have those in mind you know.

Ok so what's the alternate function for the Suppressor and Binary Rifle? They seem more like reskinned CE weapons.

I'm not going to lie. I did imply his death but that doesn't mean it has to be a permanent one. Look at what Jul's been up to in his "master's" absence.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Ok 2-3 of them don't have known alt functions but i made my point. Same can be said with the arsenal of the UNSC and covenant being the same thing.

He isn't dead.

  • 01.03.2013 11:11 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

I get where they were going and what they were trying to do with it. The whole weight of the universe on the shoulders of a protagonist vibe.

I just didn't feel it. I got that in Mass Effect with Shepard when you're facing Saren, Going in the Collectors base one last time in ME2, ME3 in London saying farewell and risking it all with the epic raid coming in [ignore ME3 ending].

It was well deserved. Earned. The same can be said in Halo:CE. The warthog run to escape Halo was intense. Making a last ditch escape from an alien planet that you played an entire campaign story to understand. It was unlike anything I had played during it's time.

Halo 2 didn't really have a real ending, a cliffhanger that angrily achieved it's purpose, it just ended when I was ready for more. But the entire campaign experience had been building up epic that made it forgivable and awesome as long as Halo 3 came out to finish it's ties. The story narrative of that game was top notch.

Halo 3 ending, felt like a conclusion. It felt like the final fight was finished. Obviously there was always more in the Halo Universe. But Halo 3 left me wanting more, but understanding that a story, an arc had ended.

Then came Halo 4. It didn't help that I was just indifferent to many of the build up. I really, really enjoyed Halo 4's first cutscene,[I wasn't out to hate Halo 4, quite the opposite, I was finding reasons to like it] it did capture a feeling that I thought would be maintained throughout the campaign. But then I realized past the glitz and glamour of CGI, it was just lazy. The character models, the story, the game. The ending was lackluster, I was just like what can they pull next. Press X to kill Meh more meh. Didact falls down the bridge and has an unconfirmed death [did NOT see that coming] Then the CGI comes on and I'm like cool, the graphics are nice. Another sequence similar to the beginning. I really like the mood they were going for in the CGI scenes in the beggining and end, it just felt like it was undeserved though. Yes, I saved Earth! I just didn't feel like I did.

Showing Johns face was a ballsy move, but to be honest I didn't even care at that point. I really did not enjoy the campaign in general. The Legendary ending was not worth it for me. It didn't leave me wanting more, it left me wanting less.

The only redeeming moments were the CGI and music they had going during the beginning and ending. But that's not what Halo has been about in it's campaign since it's inception. The flashy flash. shiny turd lol.

I enjoyed the Terminals more though, they were better then the entirety of Halo 4's story. But it too was pretty crap when I look at it. It made it typically Sci-fi that I absolutely loathe. Yes, it took it to new directions, but it just wasn't for me. This was really nothing new, the Forerunner Novels have always revealed this atmosphere. I just really hate how stupid it is. It comes down to basic things that I don't agree with. Such as Humanity vs Forerunners [But not really] the devolution and genetic destiny stuff. Basically the majority of what Halo 4 introduced. Is what I just don't like. Halo 4 ending really did not make up for it's entire campaign.

[Edited on 01.03.2013 12:16 PM PST]

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Posted by: grey101
Ok 2-3 of them don't have known alt functions but i made my point. Same can be said with the arsenal of the UNSC and covenant being the same thing.

He isn't dead.
The only alternate use I have for the pulse grenade is to stop charging Knights with a direct hit.

His death in my idea. I know he's not dead.

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Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Yeah it was pretty exciting... for the first few times. :/

Then it got boring. An all-powerful warlord stopped by a grenade that didn't even detonate correctly. I'd have rather stabbed him with an energy sword or with the blade of the gravity hammer than leave it up to fate.


Good luck trying to kill a +4 meter beast with primitive weapons.
Two words. Promethean Knights.

At E3, they're shown as overwhelming.

Then in the Scanned trailer, they're shown as mooks, and in gameplay, also mooks. Laughably easy.

I am not afraid. Even if 343 did throw in the Didact with all his powers and force us to beat him to complete the level, I'd find a way to beat him.


Promethean knights do not represent the real Forerunners.
They are meant to be at a level where the UNSC and Covies can fight them. 343 knew they couldn't let us fight real Forerunners as we are nothing compared to them unless they are hit by a huge nerf gun.

A simple monitor can shrugg off Human/Covie weapons, only a Spartan Laser can do damage. Which suggests that Spark is built stronger then a military tank.
And then you should consider that the leader of Forerunner military puts that lightbulb into shame.

The monster can use his "telekinesis" as an instant win button on the Chief at will.

Didact considers the Chief as a boring toy, so boring that he actually gave the Chief a tiny chance to fight back instead of throwing him at first sight into the slipspace rupture.


Chief has no chance unless you give him a Forerunner suit which he didn't have in Halo 4.

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Posted by: Mass Cat
Didact considers the Chief as a boring toy, so boring that he actually gave the Chief a tiny chance to fight back instead of throwing him at first sight into the slipspace rupture.


Chief has no chance unless you give him a Forerunner suit which he didn't have in Halo 4.
Eh I guess that's true.

Then how about a Promethean General or construct made in Didact's likeness? Chief could get the jump on it, defeat it then the real Didact shows up. I'm sure many players were itching for a battle with the Didact as illogical and unlikely it'd be.

  • 01.03.2013 2:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
I don't see how you stopping The most famous forerunner General from enslaving mankind doesn't feel rewarding.
Press X to kill god.

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