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Subject: Halo 4 Legendary Ending (SPOILERS!)
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

I.e. we actually see the Didact making the speech. Doesn't have to show his face or body but could show a silhouette or something.

:D

You so silly. How would a silhouette of the Didact giving a speech be a better than the ending they currently have?

  • 01.04.2013 7:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

I.e. we actually see the Didact making the speech. Doesn't have to show his face or body but could show a silhouette or something.

:D

You so silly. How would a silhouette of the Didact giving a speech be a better than the ending they currently have?
I don't know.

It's not like I have a secret fetish or something...

  • 01.04.2013 12:11 PM PDT
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You know, I regret getting riled up about it. I should have been even more disappointed!

Something like this would have been amusing. :P

*Chief takes off his helmet*
*scene cuts to some desert region on Requiem*
*a Knight is surrounded by a bunch of Knights and starts giving orders*
*boom*
*cuts to a Forerunner structure*
*something to do with Didact or Librarian*
*end cutscene*

It'd have been random but it'd give me a reason to watch all the way to the end instead of skipping it.

[Edited on 01.05.2013 5:41 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2013 5:40 AM PDT

"So- So this means Im just going to be miserable for the rest of time?!"

"No. This means that you have to live life to the fullest. You have one life, live it well. Make sure you die without regrets. Get a new life, new mate, new family. You, out of all people, don't deserve a terrible fate of misery like that. Having nothing to look forward to is good. It makes sure you want to keep on going. Living is a right, not a privilege."

Posted by: ajw34307
stripping away the layers of John

So you're saying Halo 5's legendary ending will show the lower half of his face?!

[Edited on 01.05.2013 1:31 PM PST]

  • 01.05.2013 1:31 PM PDT

I doubt it...chief won't be human for long. My guess is that the next game will show what a wrathful death machine can do.

  • 01.05.2013 2:33 PM PDT

No need to worry

I must say it was cool to see part of his face.

But, it takes away the meaning of the mask. The meaning of the mask was to show that it could be anyone (despite the male voice) now with showing part of his face, well...that puts a face to the name.

I think I would have enjoyed it more if they didn't show any of his face and kept the meaning of the mask intact.

  • 01.05.2013 3:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheAngerWithIn
I must say it was cool to see part of his face.

But, it takes away the meaning of the mask. The meaning of the mask was to show that it could be anyone (despite the male voice) now with showing part of his face, well...that puts a face to the name.

I think I would have enjoyed it more if they didn't show any of his face and kept the meaning of the mask intact.


There is no "meaning of the mask", John had always been a fully realised character with a backstory shared by the other Spartans. We have seen his face and had it described in numerous canonical sources for 11 years, there was never any indication that the Chief was anything like Nolan's Batman...

  • 01.05.2013 4:04 PM PDT

This thread is an example of why I don't post here much anymore. Everyone's stuck in a halcyon era that never really existed outside their own rose tinted minds.

  • 01.05.2013 4:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
This thread is an example of why I don't post here much anymore. Everyone's stuck in a halcyon era that never really existed outside their own rose tinted minds.


This has been the misguided way of the self-entitled, fickle Halo community since Halo 2.

  • 01.05.2013 4:19 PM PDT

Whats all this talk of the humanization of 117? When was he ever not considered a human?

  • 01.05.2013 4:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolverfrog
This thread is an example of why I don't post here much anymore. Everyone's stuck in a halcyon era that never really existed outside their own rose tinted minds.
A slight change in an existing ending will never constitute a Legendary ending.

  • 01.05.2013 4:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Wolverfrog
This thread is an example of why I don't post here much anymore. Everyone's stuck in a halcyon era that never really existed outside their own rose tinted minds.
A slight change in an existing ending will never constitute a Legendary ending.


Why? It's an additional piece of footage on top of the normal ending unlocked by beating the game on Legendary, it is by definition a 'Legendary ending'. There is literally no other requirement for it to have that title...

  • 01.05.2013 4:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Wolverfrog
This thread is an example of why I don't post here much anymore. Everyone's stuck in a halcyon era that never really existed outside their own rose tinted minds.
A slight change in an existing ending will never constitute a Legendary ending.


Why? It's an additional piece of footage on top of the normal ending unlocked by beating the game on Legendary, it is by definition a 'Legendary ending'. There is literally no other requirement for it to have that title...
I'd at least like to be able to skip right to it...

Doesn't really make sense why I have to watch the same ending just to see a new piece.

Or better yet, why can't we watch the cutscenes apart from teh missions? There really ought to be something like they did with the terminals. A separate place to watch the cutscenes.

  • 01.05.2013 5:04 PM PDT

Why not stop being such a beta -blam!- and go through the first time on Legendary like a real man? SLASO it and you'll get all the -blam!-es.

I mean, srsly.

Or better yet, why can't we watch the cutscenes apart from teh missions? There really ought to be something like they did with the terminals. A separate place to watch the cutscenes.

There is.

  • 01.05.2013 5:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
I'd at least like to be able to skip right to it...

Doesn't really make sense why I have to watch the same ending just to see a new piece.


This has been the case with every Legendary ending in the series with the exception of CE because the Johnson/Elite scene takes place during the end cutscene. In Halo 3, ODST, Wars and 4 you have to wait until the end.

Or better yet, why can't we watch the cutscenes apart from teh missions? There really ought to be something like they did with the terminals. A separate place to watch the cutscenes.

Agreed, like in Halo Wars where you unlock the cutscenes in the main menu as you progress through the game.

  • 01.05.2013 5:14 PM PDT

ODST had the best one. It gave us revelations that none of us could handle, not even 343i.

  • 01.05.2013 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
ODST had the best one. It gave us revelations that none of us could handle, not even 343i.


Truth, oh that dastardly Prophet!

  • 01.05.2013 5:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Why not stop being such a beta -blam!- and go through the first time on Legendary like a real man? SLASO it and you'll get all the -blam!-es.

I mean, srsly.
Well -blam!-, I should stop complaining about the game.

I should just give up on it completely because no one tolerates ideas for improvements anymore.

  • 01.05.2013 6:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Wolverfrog
This thread is an example of why I don't post here much anymore. Everyone's stuck in a halcyon era that never really existed outside their own rose tinted minds.
A slight change in an existing ending will never constitute a Legendary ending.


Why? It's an additional piece of footage on top of the normal ending unlocked by beating the game on Legendary, it is by definition a 'Legendary ending'. There is literally no other requirement for it to have that title...
I'd at least like to be able to skip right to it...



You can. Or rather, you can skip the first epilogue scene and the credits. You stil have to sit through Didact's speech.

[Edited on 01.05.2013 6:49 PM PST]

  • 01.05.2013 6:34 PM PDT
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I failed to see the point, afterall The Chief is supposed to be the player.

  • 01.05.2013 6:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: wcd45
afterall The Chief is supposed to be the player.


Sigh... no he isn't, this line of thinking was abandoned after Halo CE.

  • 01.05.2013 6:39 PM PDT

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The face tease was a step in the right direction. Humanizing the Spartans was a big theme throughout Halo 4, one I enjoyed immensely. Seeing more of and learning more about John within the medium of a video game is something I'd like to see. Not only him, but other surviving SII. I hope 343i gives us the cameo most of us hoped for, one day.

  • 01.05.2013 7:13 PM PDT
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Just call me Najar.

Posted by: Sliding Ghost

I'd at least like to be able to skip right to it...

Doesn't really make sense why I have to watch the same ending just to see a new piece.

Or better yet, why can't we watch the cutscenes apart from the missions? There really ought to be something like they did with the terminals. A separate place to watch the cutscenes.

Huh? What do you mean? It has always been like that, since CE... Didn't you play the original trilogy or something?

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Posted by: wcd45
afterall The Chief is supposed to be the player.


Sigh... no he isn't, this line of thinking was abandoned after Halo CE.

No it wasn't. It was always like that, of course he had a back story and characterization since then, but being the Master Chief is what they intended you to feel when you played the game.

And to OP: I really loved the way they developed Master Chief as a character in the campaign, making him evolve as a "human" through the campaign was a really nice touch.
However I didn't like the detail of showing us his face as much as I thought I would if it happened, I completed the campaign in Heroic at first and I loved the feeling I got when the screen got black. But when I completed it in Legendary and I got to see that part of his face I didn't like it that much. I preferred when it was a mystery.
However it doesn't bother me at all, it was ok, I'm just saying that I didn't like it that much, that's all.

  • 01.05.2013 7:34 PM PDT
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We barely saw anything. His eyes and a large area around them were heavily shadowed, like 99% pure darkness. And it was a brief one second glimpse anyways. He's still mostly faceless, just the way I like him.

  • 01.05.2013 7:45 PM PDT

Another reason why I hate posting here. Bungie has said from the very beginning that the player was supposed to feel like chief which is why they never showed his face. Watch the halo 3 vidoc they make it clear there. Once again you are citing books don't take precedence over the game. You can keep your characterization of the chief, because I would rather the chief be a stoic, hyper-lethal, war machine than whatever the books make him out to be.

  • 01.05.2013 10:29 PM PDT

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